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Who can touch Steve 'the ox' Orton?


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Wonder how Steve will get on with traveling to the states with a crimal record or any other country for that matter of speaking.

Did you get a criminal record for reckless driving when you crashed your bike into the car? Did you have to pay?

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There will never be a decent open mens line up at the Nats anymore. Because all the good amateurs get made pros way too soon and not even pro quality this diluting the talent pool. 

 

Steve will win easily and then get his pro card do a couple of average pro shows then call it a day like all the rest

As above I reckon this will best the best lineup in nearly a decade.

Steve, Matteo, Tom, Ephraim, Josh, and I saw a photo of Cruise Butler last night - add him in the mix.

Tell me what year had a better lineup recently Train Hard?

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Steve

Mateo

Tom

Josh and Craig dunno out of them but they will be outclassed by the top 3.

The top 3 I just listed is pretty predictable. Doubt Tom can beat mateo yet. If Steve wasn't competing it would be quite unexciting to me tbh.

Think probably the best line up that I can remember would have been the kiwi amateurs at the pro/am show they had at trust stadium and Jamie c was the first placed kiwi. But I don't really know my bbing history. They all too scared to compete against each other anyway don't want their egos bruised if they lost. They all like to think there is some kind of NZ pro pecking order I think... Load of shit if you ask me.

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Cruise is a lot like Matteo, with the same round muscle bellies and striations to burn.

Tom will push everyone bar Steve, he's 112 and looks like 6-7%. Perhaps less well balanced than Matteo but some absolutely amazing mass (his quad/ham in the side chest is second to none). If he dials in like Pro Am it'll be close for 2nd.

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In my honest opinion and all politics aside.. Steve has the win. Too big and too conditioned. People are gonna go on about his blockiness but he stages at like 117 so umm.. Who cares lol. If kruse is on then he takes second and if not Mateo gets second cause as always he will show up immaculate. tom has great legs but they don't touch steve ortons.

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Tom shaw will push Steve o?

Lol no fucking way... that's too funny.

Umm who said this or are you misreading my comment?

Think all agree first place is a given.

Matteo/Cruise/Tom for second, granted Tom probably has less complete physique only due to age.

Inb4 Tom Cruise jokes. .

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"Everyone bar x" means "Everyone with the exception of X".

Year 9 England....was a good year, lots of good lunches etc..

Yeah I'm not as clever as you. I was reading the inferred bit... where you think Tom Shaw is a whole lot better than he is and that he's going to push everyone. .. oh except for x. . My bad.

I'm a monkey bro. . You know that ;)

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Yeah I'm not as clever as you. I was reading the inferred bit... where you think Tom Shaw is a whole lot better than he is and that he's going to push everyone. .. oh except for x. . My bad.

I'm a monkey bro. . You know that ;)

No need to state the obvious Harry.

I don't overrate Tom, I've just seen him make massive gains of late & seen his condition getting harder. If he comes in like Pro Am with glutes in etc he'll be a top 3 for sure.

No KFC in his diet 'bro'

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No need to state the obvious Harry.

I don't overrate Tom, I've just seen him make massive gains of late & seen his condition getting harder. If he comes in like Pro Am with glutes in etc he'll be a top 3 for sure.

No KFC in his diet 'bro'

I don't often state the obvious.. but sometimes it's imperative so people understand what you mean cos you don't often speak that clearly.

Who eats kfc in their pre comp diet? Or are you making an oblique reference to my lack of obliques? Cmon you know I'm lazy and just coast on my genetics which that time failed me... maybe what I should do is take a shit load of drugs and live the lifestyle day in and day out and be 273gms heavier from one comp to the next ha ha ha ha

I'm not saying he isn't good cos he sure is. But is he complete enough yet then no... no he isn't.

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