Don't stab me

[Tonkintechnique]

I don't want to offend people here but I just see it very often on social media bikini competitors going on about their strict plans and clean eating etc. But to honest almost every one of the girls that train at the same boxing/MMA gym as me are leaner than the average bikini girl year round or at least at like 3-4 weeks out body fat. 

 

Also I know it's about symmetry not body fat. But the point being is this division not a bit of an insult to the other divisions who have to diet rigorously?

 

 

[maccaz]

I don't want to offend people here but I just see it very often on social media bikini competitors going on about their strict plans and clean eating etc. But to honest almost every one of the girls that train at the same boxing/MMA gym as me are leaner than the average bikini girl year round or at least at like 3-4 weeks out body fat. 

 

Also I know it's about symmetry not body fat. But the point being is this division not a bit of an insult to the other divisions who have to diet rigorously?

 

imo "bikini" class is a bit shit

its good for people that want to go on stage for first time etc but apart frmo that, its a mixed bag, can see people in better shape on the beach most the time.

 

that shouldnt take anything away from them though its a massive deal to go on stage whether you belong there or not, and credit where its due for having the balls (well no balls but yeah) to do it

 

but i agree, theres nothing particularly good about the competitors

[Skeletor]

I think its another step down again from figure. They require visible muscle but not muscle tone and a lower than normal bodyfat but not to low. The classic beach body look. Basically for women who dont want to put in the work ive been told but still good on them for getting up and havin a crack at something

[Boosting]

Most of the people youre talking about are just attention whores with some mediocre 'sponsorship'. In fact id say most if not all girls that compete in that class are just doing it for attention or to validate to themselves and the nzifbb guys whos dicks they trying to ride, that theyre fit/attractive or a somebody in the 'industry'. Ive noticed a lot of them have pretty shit faces too which would support this theory.

[Skeletor]

Most of the people youre talking about are just attention whores with some mediocre 'sponsorship'. In fact id say most if not all girls that compete in that class are just doing it for attention or to validate to themselves and the nzifbb guys whos dicks they trying to ride, that theyre fit/attractive or a somebody in the 'industry'. Ive noticed a lot of them have pretty shit faces too which would support this theory.

Lol. Brutally honest.

[kiwicannon]

Most of the people youre talking about are just attention whores with some mediocre 'sponsorship'. In fact id say most if not all girls that compete in that class are just doing it for attention or to validate to themselves and the nzifbb guys whos dicks they trying to ride, that theyre fit/attractive or a somebody in the 'industry'. Ive noticed a lot of them have pretty shit faces too which would support this theory.

BOOM! Chur Chur!

[maccaz]

Most of the people youre talking about are just attention whores with some mediocre 'sponsorship'. In fact id say most if not all girls that compete in that class are just doing it for attention or to validate to themselves and the nzifbb guys whos dicks they trying to ride, that theyre fit/attractive or a somebody in the 'industry'. Ive noticed a lot of them have pretty shit faces too which would support this theory.

[soundsgood]

ITT a lot of internet warriors who would cream there pants if any of these Bikini Competitors actually came up and talked to them IRL. 

[Tonkintechnique]

ITT a lot of internet warriors who would cream there pants if any of these Bikini Competitors actually came up and talked to them IRL.  Keep hating guys lol

 

Haha yea there's no arguing there's some hot as F**k ladies in the division 

[Boosting]

Im not hating on them. Idc what they do. I dont folliw any of them on fb so their fake shit doesnt affect me. Just was something ive observed which i thought id post in here as its relevant to the OP. Dunno why youd think id cream my pants over some fake tits fake friends fake tan fake diet whore.

But yes anyone who doesnt suck up with that crew is a hater eh.

[soundsgood]

Most of the people youre talking about are just attention whores with some mediocre 'sponsorship'. In fact id say most if not all girls that compete in that class are just doing it for attention or to validate to themselves and the nzifbb guys whos dicks they trying to ride, that theyre fit/attractive or a somebody in the 'industry'. Ive noticed a lot of them have pretty shit faces too which would support this theory.

 

Highlighted the parts where you were hating because you dont seem to know what hating is.  IE baseless comments generalising looks or generalising their motivation to compete.

 

I know you're just trolling most of the time but anyway

[donz]

Haha yeah gotta agree with the guy above who has ok legs.. I have friends who do bikini like legit friends not just people I follow on insta and man some of them bust their fucking ass to get down to shredlevel body fat for comps, they're all pretty fucking hot too. 

 

My friend was 8% last year for her show I think now for a girl thats the same as a guy at like 4-5? I could be slightly off, but she was fucking shredded.. OP if you know a girl doing MMA at 8% lasting more than 3 seconds before passing out from no energy I'd love to see her, the majority of fighters be it guys or girls will carry bodyfat for energy - not to mention less chance of seeing their fucking kidneys sticking out of their skin so you can poke it with your finger. 

 

Some of the diets I've seen are fucking rough too in terms of calorie deficits.. I dunno about the whole doing it for attention, there definitely are some, f*ck they have them in all sports - I do powerlifting, im old and engaged but I fucking love people clicking like on my videos. Bodybuilding is about vanity whether you wanna admit it or not, and if you lacked that quality you'd be pretty fucking shit at posing in a mirror. Everyone loves throwing a pose whether its on stage or by your car in the outback of australia doing a double bicep ( you know who you are and that i love you still ) - NZIFBB as a whole, thats a different subject and the dick sucking that takes place to achieve things that may or may not go on is also a different topic but really hating on some girl because she wants to lift a bit and look pretty as f*ck for a day while starving is a bit rough.

 

horses for courses

[Skeletor]

Does bikini favor a younger competitor as oppose to older( like late teens early twenties ) ?  Fairly sure a bulk of the winners at pro sows have been in that age group. I think the girl who won the Arnold bikini was like 18 or 19. 

[Skeletor]

 

 

My friend was 8% last year for her show I think now for a girl thats the same as a guy at like 4-5? 

 

I was under the impression bikini wasnt about being shredded?  At least not at 8%.

Just from the people i follow on IG.  I dunno i dont check any of them out though i like a more bulky powerlifter type myself with big quads lol. 

[donz]

^^ Yeah most of the ladies as they get older seem to be able to stay lean as f*ck so they tend to sway towards figure. theres a PT in my gym I swear shes stage ready year round in her 30s, guns for days. Its probably also a change in mindset as they get older

 

I'll edit this instead of double post; Skelebro - yeah for sure man theres an ideal bodyfat % they seem to favour - i was just clarifying that some of the girls get fucking shredded even if it doesnt favour them in the over all.

 

Last years Wellington show is what Im talking about my friend was about 8, another girl was legit 7 - leanest Ive seen live doing bikini and the girl who won it was probably 12-14? ( at a very guess ) her body, the winner was actually similar to a girl you'd see in a bar bikini comp, big tits, smooth shape etc. It's a bit of a joke really to have a "bodybuilding" show where they favour someone who doesnt look like they have muscle or the ability to diet and looks like a pub girl. If its a BB show then f*ck, make it judged on one but hey NZIFBB is a registered company and not an organisation like the rest of the world so in this case it has one boss and he can choose and do what he pleases henced its always so fucked up

[maccaz]

soundsgood, i think he was more "hating" on the ones that legit dont belong up there, they are a long way off being stage ready. 

 

obviously theres good and bad contestants in any sport (im a bad contestant in my sport, you are a good one in the same sport for example lol) , but the ones that train for 3 months then jump on stage ruin the credibility for the ones that bust their ass for years to look in insane shape because unfortunately people will generalise.

 

theres no right answer though because its not right to tell people theyre not good enough to compete, or noone would ever be "ready"

 

iv seen some disgusting ones that i def wouldnt "cream my pants" over so thats def a generalisation too

 

each to their own, competitors in poor condition aren't necessarily doing anything wrong, they are often egged on by coaches etc

[Riccardo]

Haemish you raise an interesting point, so I assume that you would argue MOST Bikini competitors aren't attention seekers etc? Because at least in my mind Boosting's description is fairly apt for a large proportion of bikini competitors, not all, but it seems to me that a lot of these girls desire to compete is just an extension of the whole health buzz of raw organic, juice cleansing instagramers. No hate, just an observation and I think a fairly accurate one given the reports I've heard from girls who have developed clinical eating disorders, body image issues etc from getting too caught up in it all. I certainly think it tends to attract a disproportionate number of individuals who have a propensity towards those type of issues anyway.

[maccaz]

also i just want to add, its not all good to straight away pull the "hater" card, maybe boosting and others should have worded their comments differently but the competitors put themselves up there to be judged and commented on, and an honest opinion is not hating.

 

a bad comment is just as valuable as a good comment if it is honest and not made just to be an asshole or upset someone

 

this is why this forum is good, on facebook people post a photo and tag 30 friends in it, so they can get heaps of pats on the back, this is not productive and doesnt do anyone any good, same as on instagram

 

on this forum if someone posts something it gets honest opinion pretty quickly, this is useful input

 

whatever happened to constructive criticism? lol rant over

[soundsgood]

Okay fair call Maccaz, Im sure there are plenty of girls that compete that wouldnt be your taste Maccaz but the point of competing isn't to be lusted after by the opposite sex.  They are on stage to try and fit the criteria the judges have (dont ask me what that is lol).  

 

There are going to be good and bad ones, just like there are good and bad powerlifters and we all want validation on our social media.  You dont see bikini models making thread about OMG Maccaz posts lifting videos that are less than another mate can lift.  They are a work in progress just like you are.

 

The hating card was clearly pulled on Hugh for his post I clarified above.  I hate that term (Hate Hating?  Does that even make sense lol) but when you start calling all bikini competitors ugly thats going a bit far.

 

End of the day its all just a little bit of banter, the beauty of the forum

[donz]

I actually only came in to see if someone would be posting some hot bikini girls doing a rear glute spread..

 

 

Maccaz - yeah bro those ones that 'dont belong' the fuckwits in both men/women categories who lost some kgs and think they deserve the right to stand on stage? Bitch please we've all lost weight. Some of the shit I've seen is fkn gross. That WBFF fed has the right idea they have a transformation category specially for those people. I lose 35kg in 2009, doesnt mean I feel like I should have the right to stand next to Jay Cutler and crank a side chest pose, f*ck!

[maccaz]

yup yup fair call all round

good discussion

 

donz I didnt know that was a thing but thats actually a legit idea, for people that arent quite "there" for bikini or whatever, but have put in a shit load of work and transformed..

[Realtalk]

Who cares. If you don't like the men's physique class or bikini class don't go to the shows and watch. I don't go cause I think it's mediocre rubbish. You'll never see me at another show again.

No one even talks about the comps anyway... Never see status on FB about the judging or the quality of the comp or any discussion about anything. People to scared or don't actually care... All just me me me then do the comp then food food food and then me me me again.

They are boring now days anyway. I remember when I used to compete and go watch shows people would be excited to go to the comp and wonder who is turning up to compete... Is this person gonna beat this person etc. Now so much shit is plastered on social media I see everyone who is competing and can pick the placings a week before... The actual comp is BORING.

Don't care. People can do what they want Idgaf. If I see dumb shit online I just say it to them then and there.

[kiwicannon]

I actually only came in to see if someone would be posting some hot bikini girls doing a rear glute spread..

 

 

Maccaz - yeah bro those ones that 'dont belong' the fuckwits in both men/women categories who lost some kgs and think they deserve the right to stand on stage? Bitch please we've all lost weight. Some of the shit I've seen is fkn gross. That WBFF fed has the right idea they have a transformation category specially for those people. I lose 35kg in 2009, doesnt mean I feel like I should have the right to stand next to Jay Cutler and crank a side chest pose, f*ck!

Rear glute spread BAHAHAHAHA! Dam lost ma coffee all over the keyboard bro funny shit Donz love it!

[Pseudonym]

bikini girls doing a rear glute spread..

LOL. I know exactly the pose you mean! Legs apart, back arched so butt points skywards, looking seductively at the judges backwards over one shoulder. It really seems like it objectifies the contestants, and it enrages my inner feminist (which I never knew I had till this point). It just looks so sleezy! Or is it just me that thinks this?

 

I remember when I used to compete and go watch shows people would be excited to go to the comp and wonder who is turning up to compete... Is this person gonna beat this person etc. Now so much shit is plastered on social media I see everyone who is competing and can pick the placings a week before... The actual comp is BORING.

That's a really interesting thought. Wouldn't it be ironic if social media (which is so loved by the bodybuilding crowd) has actually spoilt bodybuilding?

[soundsgood]

Interestingly the number one amateur bodybuilder in NZ refuses to post 'progress pics'