SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!

[trainlikeafreak]

To all the scientists who have posted on gymnation/Nzbb over the years.. This ones for you... Lol.

Actually you know what I'm not buying this until I see 10 "studies" from Google, 6 graphs and 25 references.

Inb4 bro science he he he

[Riccardo]

I think the statement that resistance training causes gains in strength and muscle mass is a pretty obvious one. Kinda like saying the earth is spherical.

But when brain dead meat heads make ridiculous claims that they themselves give some pseudo-scientific justification for eg. No carbs after 5 because your body will store it as fat while you're sleeping. They get major butt hurt when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls them out on it.

[jimmybro1]

To all the scientists who have posted on gymnation/Nzbb over the years.. This ones for you... Lol.

Actually you know what I'm not buying this until I see 10 "studies" from Google, 6 graphs and 25 references.

Inb4 bro science he he he

Guy sounds like a tool. #2cents

[trainlikeafreak]

I think the statement that resistance training causes gains in strength and muscle mass is a pretty obvious one. Kinda like saying the earth is spherical.

But when brain dead meat heads make ridiculous claims that they themselves give some pseudo-scientific justification for eg. No carbs after 5 because your body will store it as fat while you're sleeping. They get major butt hurt when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls them out on it.

Whole point of that post is emphasising simplicity. Cos you know.. It's not rocket science. Although a lot of guys would like it to be.

No carbs after 5pm is a bit ridiculous.. Given carb timing should be based around training if you're dieting down

[trainlikeafreak]

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[Riccardo]

I completely agree, the same could be said for these prep coaches who claim to have all the secrets or the guys who like to make out like prepping for a show should mean you forgo any kind of social interaction and normal human behaviour to get lean. Its like they are trying to make it seem so difficuilt that you have to be some freak of nature psychopath to be able to do it. Or that only someone such as themselves willing to do those things can do it, not that comp prep isn't gruelling of course! But I digress. The problem I have is when people selectively use anecdote, itself part of the scientific process, then ignore more compelling evidence to the contrary.

No carbs after five may seem dumb to you or I but how do we know its dumb? On the surface it seems pretty intuitive or common sense, in fact it follows along the same lines of logic as your statement about timing carbs around training. We don't train in our sleep and are least physically active at night so it would seem that as a guideline it doesnt sound so stupid. How do we know it's a silly idea?

[trainlikeafreak]

Well to be technical eating carbs before bed can have a negative effect such as blunting natural gh production etc etc etc but that's not exactly going to have a HUGE impact on a 12 week prep... Id say don't eat carbs before bed because carbs should be around training when they are actually used if they are restricted.

Yes a lot of people lack common sense these days and as far as science goes I thibk it's valid at times but most of the time it's over complicating a simple process.

My initial post was more a joke to be honest lol. In the sense that building muscle is not a complicated task however people like to make out you need to learn 658 studies and plot 76 graphs before giving an opinion or fact.

I say it's simple... But a lot of people could do things a lot better. I've seen some of the diets people have been given by female "fitness professionals" and I definitely raise an eye brow. In saying that I have seen male fitness professional plans and think the same exact thing.

As far as social lives are concerned.. I always tell my clients that if they want to go out while they are prepping then do it. Obviously making sure they get enough sleep etc etc and what I find with most people is that from 4-6 weeks onwards they don't want to anymore because they are focussed and/or exhausted.

[trainlikeafreak]

And in all seriousness I have seen studies (lol) that state that eating carbs before bed does actually decrease total fat loss. The reasoning behind it also made sense.. It started something along the lines of your body has to break down the food before in can burn fat etc. They were credible as well and were shown to me by someone studying science/human nutrition at akl uni.

Again if you train before you sleep this won't be an issue. Meal timing is a lot more important than people think IMO

[HarryB]

I think this post is gay. .. I think the op is gay... I think rack deads are gay and I think DH is gay..

that's all....

[Riccardo]

The whole carb thing i think is a red herring to my original point, what I'm trying to say is the reason we know thats a silly statement to make is because the research tells us so. Anecdote or intuition is often not enough, ir just plain wrong. Truth be told it all makes a very minimal difference anyway, I find its usually natty guys who care the most because they need all the help they can get lol

[_jco]

When it comes to nutrition, I like keep it simple. Just measuring protein and calories. You can always do 'advance' stuff like carb timing/cycling, intermittent fasting, etc but how much of that would add to your physique? Extra 1% better? Extra 2%? I'd rather use that almost negligible effect to be a normal person. You can still go far while other people are noticing your effort and dedication to your diet. That's how I like it. I'd rather not be a pain and say no to people. To some extent of of course. f*ck pizzas lol

[trainlikeafreak]

When it comes to nutrition, I like keep it simple. Just measuring protein and calories. You can always do 'advance' stuff like carb timing/cycling, intermittent fasting, etc but how much of that would add to your physique? Extra 1% better? Extra 2%? I'd rather use that almost negligible effect to be a normal person. You can still go far while other people are noticing your effort and dedication to your diet. That's how I like it. I'd rather not be a pain and say no to people. To some extent of of course. f*ck pizzas lol

Id say carb/fat timing and other things like carb cycling (when needed) can add much more than 1%. The first part especially. But that's just my opinion...

[Gym rat]

I am pretty much the same by keeping things simple when it comes to cutting by cycling carbs and not a fan of zero carb diets from what have herd. For when comes to nutrition during offseason I like to keep things clean food wise during the week and with cheat days on Saturday and pretty much eat anything that I want and don't care what the macros are for when it comes to cheat days.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

erm i didn't read it that way at all lol.. imo i just saw it as a elaborate way of saying "im going to the gym to pick things up and put it down, i might not be able to pick it up but if i do, i'll keep putting it down and up until i fall down" ... still a lame post with crappy hashtags but just my non-butthurt interpretation #brusciensu

[donz]

^^ haha yeah I just thought he was being a cheeky kent by saying hes gonna go lift heavy til he fails...