Usefulness of oly lifts

[maccaz]

Just for some conversation, who in here uses olympic lifts in their training?

 

I noticed that some of the more oldschool/older strength coaches recommend the oly lifts for general all round strength on top of the big PL 3..

 

What benefit do they have over usual squat/bench/dead? I can see obviously some explosiveness but they look real technical like I would think doing oly lifts would make you good at oly lifts and thats it? or am i wrong?

 

i doubt i'd ever attempt them in any case, too gumby and unco, probably snap my arms off first attempt and end up on a gym fails youtube compilation

[BeastBuilder]

Personally don't see the point.

The investment in time, effort, recovery etc it takes to learn the Olympic lifts properly and get strong at them doesn't have enough of a return in powerlifting to warrant it imo.

Better spent doing variations of the big three if you need a change or doing extra volume on weak points or speed work on the big three. Much more benefit for a lot less investment I think.

[maccaz]

Personally don't see the point.

The investment in time, effort, recovery etc it takes to learn the Olympic lifts properly and get strong at them doesn't have enough of a return in powerlifting to warrant it imo.

Better spent doing variations of the big three if you need a change or doing extra volume on weak points or speed work on the big three. Much more benefit for a lot less investment I think.

yeah thats what i thought, i just been watching some youtube videos and reckon so much potential for just unlucky injury so unless you wanna be good at those lifts theres no need to do them

[Skeletor]

I think I asked this in a thread recently because I'd seen a number of powerlifters start doing it on IG. The general concensus was no they don't really carryover and definitely not the snatch. It's gained a lot of popularity lately because of Klokov. Everyone wants to be him but you don't really see a lot of top level powerlifters doing them although I'm sure there will be one or 2. Quite different techniques and I was told if I wanna get better as a powerlifter to stick to lifting like one except I think it was called clean pulls could help.

[Wongmania]

If you're training for powerlifting nah I don't reckon oly lifting is that useful. Mainly because oly lifting is all about momentum following through from start to finish and from looking at powerlifting the high weight means it's more brute strength (correct me if I'm wrong of course, I only oly lift) but I do know that once a power lifter gets good oly form and gets used to being dynamic in movement they make beasts of a oly lifter. They both use the same base (deadlift and squat) and that power lifter strength just throws the bar!!

[jimmybro1]

Certain aspects of  olympic lifting is definitely beneficial like the front squat and power shrug both used largely in olympic lifting as accessory movements.

 

I'm having a good at some olympic lifting but its purely for fun and variation getting bored of the big three and I train at the end of the day for the enjoyment of it.   

[Wongmania]

Certain aspects of olympic lifting is definitely beneficial like the front squat and power shrug both used largely in olympic lifting as accessory movements.

I'm having a good at some olympic lifting but its purely for fun and variation getting bored of the big three and I train at the end of the day for the enjoyment of it.

What do you use the front squat and power shrug for in the powerlifting world?

[maccaz]

What do you use the front squat and power shrug for in the powerlifting world?

 

accessory for squat and deadlift i would imagine

[jimmybro1]

accessory for squat and deadlift i would imagine

Exactly! 

 

Front squat great for upper back (thoracic spine), core and takes load off lower back. Will definitely be some carryover to the back squat whether low or high bar. 

 

Power shrug builds traps, upper back and general explosiveness. I alternate between these and seal rows. I do have poverty deadlift though... glass back problems.