stimulants

[BuffaloBalls]

Getting ice again probably your best bet. What do you have to do to get it lol? Duramine fine for sleep if you take only one 30/40mg in morning. They available in lower doses too..like 15mg i think. But yeah you do sht like take 160mg then 120mg next day like i did then obv not going to sleep much for while. Worth it tho

cheers man, sorry I missed this post for some reason.. I think you are right.. just don't like the stigma or the people that are involved in the P industry..

And I hear its got some pretty harsh chems in it too.. As a very last resort I guess.

I might try another doc for ephidrene too see how I go.. Has anyone used ephidrene? Is that the stuff they pharmacies used to use in cough medicine?

Re duromine, yep, tried the 15mg doseage..  Man that shit just don't agree with me.  The bummer is its easy to get and legit.

 

[BuffaloBalls]

haha, I wonder if the cops ever read this shit? They be shaking their heads and be like WTF? lol

[HarryB]

Isn't p made using ephedrine or pseudo ephedrine. Which coincidentally is what you were talking about as being contained in the cold and flu mixture. So you might as well hit the pipe. I reckon drug dealers just get a bad rap, they're doing community service :/

Worried about becoming addicted to sleeping pills but ok with hitting the pipe (interesting)

I guess if you wanna be burning the candle at both ends eventually you're gonna pay for it. Having spent time looking after a sick person I can tell you one thing, you ain't much use overtired or off your face.

[GyzzBrah]

Bro honest just tell the doc you can't sleep and ask for melatonin. It's safe and non addictive. Maybe if you get consistently good sleep for about a week you will start feeling better plus you can take melatonin as much as you want everyday no issue.

 

Think about that option then think about just taking stims and you decide what is better for you. Your sleep will stay shit and it won't fix the problem forever. Maybe take melatonin and a mild stim in the morning at the same time and see how it works?

[maccaz]

I guess if you wanna be burning the candle at both ends eventually you're gonna pay for it. Having spent time looking after a sick person I can tell you one thing, you ain't much use overtired or off your face.

 

this.

i spent few months looking after grandparents, 1x cancer deathbed and both loopy as fck from dementia.

 

its a noble thing to do, but its stupid. burn out so quick and end up hating the people you're caring for. not enough sleep, stressed constantly, etc, its just a fucked up experience and everyone underestimates how important it is to have breaks, thats what respite care is for..

 

consider respite care/live in care 2 days a week or something to give yourself a break, or you will lose the plot sooner or later (i did lol)

[HarryB]

He's not struggling getting sleep he's just getting shit sleep cos up during the night being a carer.

[BuffaloBalls]

Isn't p made using ephedrine or pseudo ephedrine. Which coincidentally is what you were talking about as being contained in the cold and flu mixture. So you might as well hit the pipe. I reckon drug dealers just get a bad rap, they're doing community service :/

Worried about becoming addicted to sleeping pills but ok with hitting the pipe (interesting)

I guess if you wanna be burning the candle at both ends eventually you're gonna pay for it. Having spent time looking after a sick person I can tell you one thing, you ain't much use overtired or off your face.

Harry, I have seen what P does to people and its not a trade I want to support. And I would rather use pharma grade with what ever I use if possible.

And worried about becoming addicted to sleeping pills? One would have to be foolish not to. They make P addiction look very mild by comparison. They are extremely addictive. They might not be as harmful or mind altering as a lot of drugs, but they are incredibly addictive. That doesn’t stop me from using them. I just use them wisely.  If only every one had the ability to use all drugs wisely then there would be no need to make them illegal.

As for being off my face? Im not looking to blast 24/7 for fun. A small dose in the morning to kick start the day and get to the gym. That’s all Im looking for.. And I do manage to catch up on my sleep on the weekends. Unfortunately that doesn’t get me to have the most productive days during the week when Im dead tired.

The situation Im in is not one of my choosing, Im just trying to make the most of my situation is all.

[BuffaloBalls]

Bro honest just tell the doc you can't sleep and ask for melatonin. It's safe and non addictive. Maybe if you get consistently good sleep for about a week you will start feeling better plus you can take melatonin as much as you want everyday no issue.

 

Think about that option then think about just taking stims and you decide what is better for you. Your sleep will stay shit and it won't fix the problem forever. Maybe take melatonin and a mild stim in the morning at the same time and see how it works?

Im not in need of a sleeping advice.

[BuffaloBalls]

this.

i spent few months looking after grandparents, 1x cancer deathbed and both loopy as fck from dementia.

 

its a noble thing to do, but its stupid. burn out so quick and end up hating the people you're caring for. not enough sleep, stressed constantly, etc, its just a fucked up experience and everyone underestimates how important it is to have breaks, thats what respite care is for..

 

consider respite care/live in care 2 days a week or something to give yourself a break, or you will lose the plot sooner or later (i did lol)

Thanks mate.. Love the advice but its not all bad.. Only one or two nights per week that Im up.. some weeks I even get to sleep right through the week.. Just the odd rough night here and there.. 

Its those days when I have had a really rough night, the next day I am so tired everything goes out the window.. diet training, concentration..  The problem is once I break my diet and training routine, I struggle to get back to it.. 

I keep making two steps forward and one step backwards lately..

My goal is to keep the momentum going forward with my training and diet and I have come to the conclusion, a little help on the odd day that its needed may be the answer..  I hope this explains exactly what im about..

 

[GyzzBrah]

Lol I misread you then. No Idea you were up caring for people and stuff. Go buy caffiene pills and snort them their cheap as f*ck.

[BuffaloBalls]

Im doing stuff all today..  Not a lot of sleep last night. Keeping thinking I have to get to the gym.. So easy just to sit here chatting instead.. Just finished my 2nd bottle of sugar free V given me enough energy to get motivated.... Think I'll head off to the gym now and will grab another bottle of V along the way.. That should do the trick nicely.. 

[maccaz]

Im doing stuff all today..  Not a lot of sleep last night. Keeping thinking I have to get to the gym.. So easy just to sit here chatting instead.. Just finished my 2nd bottle of sugar free V given me enough energy to get motivated.... Think I'll head off to the gym now and will grab another bottle of V along the way.. That should do the trick nicely.. 

haha you feeling a bit chatty from your morning wake up supplement prob br0

[ngapuhi strong]

your only real solution othere then becoming addicted to stims or sleeping pills, is to go get some counseling and deal with the underling issues, because if you dont the problems wont go away they will just snow ball 

[Hu Gh]

cheers man, sorry I missed this post for some reason.. I think you are right.. just don't like the stigma or the people that are involved in the P industry..

And I hear its got some pretty harsh chems in it too.. As a very last resort I guess.

I might try another doc for ephidrene too see how I go.. Has anyone used ephidrene? Is that the stuff they pharmacies used to use in cough medicine?

Re duromine, yep, tried the 15mg doseage..  Man that shit just don't agree with me.  The bummer is its easy to get and legit.

 

 

All good br0. Its coz im on 'moderator queue' or some shit. Basically its way of mods making sure i dont seize control of the forum by reviewing and only approving for release posts I make that are consistent with the ideology of the forum.

 

Much like the way people in power use propaganda to manipulate the public into believing something e.g. that NZ is under threat from an alleged middle eastern terrorist group called ISIS or the Japanese in WW2 making out that every battle they fought until 1944 including battles regarded as losses (when it became impossible to do so) was presented to the public as a decisive tactical and/or strategic victory which was in most cases far from the truth.

[atrollappears]

Isn't p made using ephedrine or pseudo ephedrine. Which coincidentally is what you were talking about as being contained in the cold and flu mixture. So you might as well hit the pipe. I reckon drug dealers just get a bad rap, they're doing community service :/

Worried about becoming addicted to sleeping pills but ok with hitting the pipe (interesting)

I guess if you wanna be burning the candle at both ends eventually you're gonna pay for it. Having spent time looking after a sick person I can tell you one thing, you ain't much use overtired or off your face.

 

Removal of the hydroxyl group makes a huge difference to physiological effects and addiction potential Harry..  ;-) 

[HarryB]

Stop applying science ha ha ha I was taking the piss.

[atrollappears]

Stop applying science ha ha ha I was taking the piss.

 

I suspected you might be Harry...  ;-)

[Pseudonym]

All good br0. Its coz im on 'moderator queue' or some shit. Basically its way of mods making sure i dont seize control of the forum by reviewing and only approving for release posts I make that are consistent with the ideology of the forum.

Correct. This forum's ideology frowns upon abusive posts and bullying, which was a pretty common feature of your comments.

 

Much like the way people in power use propaganda...

I think it's more like the way people keep their dogs on a leash - it stops the dog biting other people and shitting everywhere. And ultimately, it stops the dog from being sent to the pound and being put down.

[maccaz]

Correct. This forum's ideology frowns upon abusive posts and bullying, which was a pretty common feature of your comments.

I think it's more like the way people keep their dogs on a leash - it stops the dog biting other people and shitting everywhere. And ultimately, it stops the dog from being sent to the pound and being put down.

Can fubu go on the list ? Pre emptively scoop up the shits he drops

[ngapuhi strong]

Can fubu go on the list ? Pre emptively scoop up the shits he drops

i second this

[HarryB]

i second this

I don't support this. We don't help the community by excluding people, Better we engage fubu and show we care. I did this by offering to wrestle and he turned me down. I live in hope. Today's annoyance is tomorrow's MOD

[BuffaloBalls]

i second this

I third this.  :-)

[BuffaloBalls]

Ripped Freak.. There is a huge bodybuilding dude in our gym who has been on this stuff.. Swears by it and has lost a lot of weight while on it. Been taking it for ages.
I thought, well not quite what I had in mind, but might be worth a shot. Cant see it being a very powerful stim, but what the hell. Reckons it gives him energy and has helped him lose quite a bit of weight in the process..

Im not a huge fan of supplements, but done a quick google and came across a site selling these at a ridiculously low cost.. Might grab some and see what happens..




 

[Realtalk]

Ripped Freak.. There is a huge bodybuilding dude in our gym who has been on this stuff.. Swears by it and has lost a lot of weight while on it. Been taking it for ages.

I thought, well not quite what I had in mind, but might be worth a shot. Cant see it being a very powerful stim, but what the hell. Reckons it gives him energy and has helped him lose quite a bit of weight in the process..

Im not a huge fan of supplements, but done a quick google and came across a site selling these at a ridiculously low cost.. Might grab some and see what happens..

Mate they are shit. Not the kind of thing you want to be taking on a regular basis.

[BuffaloBalls]

ok, cheers Realtalk. can I ask what you base that on.. Im mostly against supplements, and don't take anything other than whey protein. But I keep hearing of really good results from this stuff. Im open to listening to any advice though.  Friend of mine reckons he hasn't done anything other than take this ripped freak stuff and he is definitely starting to cut up..Muscle starting to show and he puts it all down to ripfreaked. tells me it gives him energy too..  Mind you, it wasn't really what I was looking for anyway.. intention was to find a decent stimulant for days when I lack sleep and cant get motivated..

More than happy to listen to your thoughts man...