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hawkeye

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there is no other forum like this one on the planet, this seems to be the only one which you can not give proper details of where things come from how much they cost what works or doesn't what you cycle or what you buy and from whom or what you sell... must be an nz thing.

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See, again the difference is that here in europe, uk and the states we are all much more open and dealers rely on people passing on the contact details, its called word of mouth and its how they make their money (i don't mean you give the guys address away). Good example, go on ebay.co.uk and search for Ansamone, you will come across a guy selling what he calls an e-book about Ansamone (its basically the photo copy of the insert that we get with the box) but his number is written on the box for all to see and call, and if you message him he will tell you that he is selling 40 i.u. boxes of Ansamone for £80 (approx 240 NZD) - which is quite high by the way.

Laterz

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Good example, go on ebay.co.uk and search for Ansamone, you will come across a guy selling what he calls an e-book about Ansamone (its basically the photo copy of the insert that we get with the box) but his number is written on the box for all to see and call, and if you message him he will tell you that he is selling 40 i.u. boxes of Ansamone for £80 (approx 240 NZD) - which is quite high by the way.

Hrmm.. funny that.

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The NZ bodybuilding population is pretty small compared to Europe, UK and the States. If you were to openly source illegal drugs or give contact details on anyone who does, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot.

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I know a lot of guy's in the US and UK, the guy's in the US are even less likley than us to post that sort of info, and the guys in the UK are very carefull about who they give this sort of info to. The sort of guy's that your talking about don't last long before they get snapped in the US, little thing called "raw deal" went down recently, you might have heard of it lol.

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Well IronGame, i am living this here and have worked in florida and wherever i go its never been a problem and if you're happy to talk about it so are the others (i have no time for people who tell me "its all natural"), obviously they may not talk to EVERYONE as some people are muppets, some are under cover cops! Yeah heard raw deal and there again the uk police would not provide the information that they have on uk dealers sending to the usa, did you know that ?...lol

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do you have a proposed cycle ? there are a few people here that have posted up thier cycles, including me , ask away and people are most of the time helpful , i still have much to learn about aas but im more than happy to help if poss, as to asking about prices im not sure if thats allowed maybe a mod can let us know ?

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yeah u can talk bout wat certain products are going for, wats u would consider a rip off and wat u would consider to be a good deal.

there is obviously a line though, but remember its all about how u word your posts.

but if u are looking for a source, dont be so lazy, and look through the steroid section and c who posts in there and see if they are willing to help u.

do u want a price list oif products posted on this thread? would that make u happy? :pfft:

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Hi 2guns,

Nah price list not needed as i have had enough by pm. I don't know how you guys acan afford gear over there, its seems so expensive! (compared to what i am used to i guess) Don't get me wrong some people spend easily in the region of £200 a week here, one of my dealers has a customer (with no neck) who has 17 i.u of growth a day 3 sust a week and 4 decca and eats orals like they're going out of fashion, i could not afford that here! Don't think i'd could EVER afford it in nz...lol...even if i saved all my pocket money!

Cheers BigEars

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M.R. without being sure of exactly what you mean let me guess at you're asking why when they are taking such large amounts which normally means that the gear is working anymore?

Well, i can not answer for everyone but i can answer for the guys i used to train with at Atlas gym in a place called Alfreton (here). The gym was run by Dave Hancock who in his prime became a Silver Medalist for England (not sure if it was the European championships or the olympics) in powerlifting. What you learn there is that its in the culture of the whole town, the men young and old and the girls all take a lot of gear almost year round. Not only that but the guys that take the most i find is the powerlifters and the reason being is that although they don't change much in the way of size, what they can lift off the gear is soul destroying, and so they take a lot and again almost year round, so you know the receptors are "burnt out" ; now for some reason even with that kind of regime they still manage to create new personal bests and grow albeit in smaller increments than when they were newbies. We also have the problem here where people want to look good year round and feel big and powerful, many can not, as i am sure you understand, handle the deflation of coming off of the gear. Now with new products such as IGF-1 we are starting to see (if you look at the forum on http://www.muscletalk.co.uk) that more and more (as they can afford it and find it) are using IGF-1 to increase in size off cycle (although the rule of thumb is that combining roids,rhgh, igf and mgf would give the best results) which also as we understand it keeps growing for some months after the igf-1 cycle due to the new muscle cells that have been created, maturing to their full size potential. Then of course you will want to pump them up with some gear and see how big you are! Let's face it, at the end of the day, its vanity.

kick back, relax with a good beer and a good woman.

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Yes i have heard of Mick Hart (poor guy looks like shit now after his abusing GHB). I have to say that i have not read any of his books, sorry. I have trained Traps with Bill Kazmier once but i didn't know who he was, again this was at the Atlas Gym in Alfreton (a lot of the uk's top sports and gymnasts come from that little town, and the doctors are all very helpful) this was 20 years ago easily now and he was massive then and showed me the error in my ways - which basically was to attempt to lift what you can't if you want to lift it oneday. He was a huge friendly guy and trained in a green woolly jumper with his belt on the outside of it with plain old smelly black joggers, he was a good friend of Dave Hancocks. Dave is now dead due to liver failure from steroid abuse, weeks before his death he was jaundiced and look real bad but he was still taking gear. He knew he didn't have long and he wanted to keep doing what he loved until the end. He worked and trained up until a few days before his death, in the end he had 2 days in bed and died.

He was the meanest looking nice guy i've ever met, sad.

Alex

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Some pre-cursors to immimnent liver failure and death include:

chronic lost of weight as you liver cannot produce glucose

Jaundice, as bile builds up and cannot be brokern down

Vomiting blood - as you have varisies in your throat

Blood in stolls as you varisies burst and leak blood into to your gut

etc etc

I mean, people with imminent liver failure are so sick for so long, they are usually in hospital sooner rather than later if you get my drfit!! It's not something I suggest you wake up and go "oh my god I have liver desease" !!

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