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200kg raw or equipped br0??? If equipped GTFO I vote Winston.

YoungNats = Modern day Hitler youth. Even tho I vote Nat last year just really dislike these young Fgts.

John Key is so eager to change the NZ flag. You might be asking yourself why is he so eager to change the flag. It's because he wants to sign the TPPA. He can't sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack on our flag as it shows our involvement with Britain. They won't let NZ sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack.

 

http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz/

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John Key is so eager to change the NZ flag. You might be asking yourself why is he so eager to change the flag. It's because he wants to sign the TPPA. He can't sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack on our flag as it shows our involvement with Britain. They won't let NZ sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack.

http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz/

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FUBU go f*ck yourself. Do you want nz to be a better place or not? Also changing the flag is not nessessary to sign the TPPA dipshit.

Who cares if JK is eager to change the flag anyway. The greens are eager to turn us into a dustbowl commie state and labour is a c*nt to private business so you tell me what's worse.

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Tbh I think John key wants to change the flag for no other reason than so he can say he changed the flag... He has a pretty big ego, don't they all though. The guy won't even live in nz after he's finished prob move to Hawaii. It's a massive waste of money just for the referendum process just under $30M. Can that even be justified? Not to mention the costs after that.

New flag or old flag who really cares. If you care so much about a flag you needa find a hobby. We are what we are if you don't like it f*ck off to another country that has a pretty flag that you like.

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John Key is so eager to change the NZ flag. You might be asking yourself why is he so eager to change the flag. It's because he wants to sign the TPPA. He can't sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack on our flag as it shows our involvement with Britain. They won't let NZ sign the TPPA until we get rid of the Union Jack.

 

http://www.itsourfuture.org.nz/

 

TIL people can believe this facebook spam.

 

How does this even make sense??  Pls never vote.

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FUBU go f*ck yourself. Do you want nz to be a better place or not? Also changing the flag is not nessessary to sign the TPPA dipshit.

Who cares if JK is eager to change the flag anyway. The greens are eager to turn us into a dustbowl commie state and labour is a c*nt to private business so you tell me what's worse.

How would you know that changing the flag is not necessary to sign the TPPA. It's all confidential, you egg.

 

Tell me how the TPPA will make NZ a better place? The TPPA has more negatives than positives and America pulls all the strings on this agreement. Just remember once we sign up, it's for good. There is no breaking away from this agreement.

 

The TPPA talks are happening behind closed doors and they are highly confidential. This secret agreement seems to be undermining our sovereignty. Also, the Union Jack shows our ties to Britain. Think about it. If we took away the Union Jack it shows that we no longer have a shared identity with the British flag. Britain is not even interested in TPPA. If NZ signed the TPPA today it kind of shows that Britain is involved with the TPPA as well and that paints a bad picture for us. This is why John Key is eager to change the flag before he signs the TPPA. If John Key wanted to sign the TPPA he would have signed it long ago. The flag referendum passed it's first reading this week, without NZ citizens having any say at all. If the flag change get's the green light, I guarantee you John Keys next agenda will be signing the TPPA. 

 

 If you look into John Keys past, you will see that his ties to America are a lot closer than you think.

 

Below is a wikileak, on how bad the TPPA truly is:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/13/trans-pacific-paternership-intellectual-property

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IMO national/jk are bunch of fuckwits only interested in lining their own(and their rich mates) pockets further while sucking USA dick and filling the country with wealthy foreign immigrants and companies who re-invest most of profits they make here overseas. Also they spy on own citizens (or get another country to do it for them = same thing).

Labour party def gone to shit though with seemingly no strong leader and most probably having questionable competence at running a country. Most of other parties the same too.

One party democracy/police state coming soon.

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IMO national/jk are bunch of fuckwits only interested in lining their own(and their rich mates) pockets further while sucking USA dick and filling the country with wealthy foreign immigrants and companies who re-invest most of profits they make here overseas. Also they spy on own citizens (or get another country to do it for them = same thing).

Labour party def gone to shit though with seemingly no strong leader and most probably having questionable competence at running a country. Most of other parties the same too.

One party democracy/police state coming soon.

Actually, I think Andrew Little is the perfect leader for Labour. He has been working in the Union Sector for many years. Ergo, giving him the advantage and knowledge of knowing what the working man needs. I really think he will bring Labour back from the brink. If not, Labours doomed.

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Oh well, since we are talking politics..  Labour, Greens, Maori party would destroy this country over night.. National, Maori party are just about as bad, but unfortunately the best of the worst bunch.. I think we need to start getting away from the mind set of Labour or National and start thinking about getting in one of the smaller parties and making it main stream.. Personally I have voted for Colin Craig's conservative party the last two elections..

They are gathering steam and will be in gov next election. The think I love about the Conservative party. - Their binding referendum. Regardless of their policies, regardless of what they want to happen, their goal is to give New Zealanders a voice for a change. They are there for the people, not to dictate to us.. Imagine that, a government who will finally listen when told what we want.

John Key and National have given us the two finger salute the last 5? referendums and gone on his own merry way. We need a change and a gov that will listen to what we want. The Conservative Parties binding referendum does it for me..



Tell you what though, after reading your post you almost make me want to vote for ACT next election.. :-)

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I agree completley. ACT has some really good ideas that will never see made into a bill unless they get more votes. Conservative have the right ideas but their policies are stupid and ACT has debunked them. For example cutting tax on first 25k will result in a deficit (for their spending plans) that will require a 30% income tax to make up for it. Also, with binding referendums, their slow and innefficient and you cannot trust common folk to be well versed in politics and to make the right desisions. Also, they are more or less undoable. Better to just remove a current govt in next ellection to repeal their bad desisions. Also their gay bashers and anti freedom.

 

ACT has a brilliant private property plan and their crime policies are top notch, It will be good if gun ownership for defence became a constitutional right and home invaders can be shot and also shop stealers. Less crime + right to defend. Gun ownership is the biggest and last line of defence against foreign invasion so theres the answer to all the people saying china / muslims will take over. If every home has high powered assault rifles, no evil govt, radical maoris, asian or turban head is taking our land from us. Cant rely on our small army - look at crimea for example.

 

Also freedom / less tax / private sector and all those nice things follow with ACT. No use just talking crap about cutting gst and increasing min. wage they all stupid ideas with no foundation but act has the right ideas.

 

Also weed and roids will be legal.

 

Vote ACT.

 

Also they strong leadership which national does not have.

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I agree completley.

Hey GyzzBrah, I agree on a lot you say.. And I do like ACT.. Unfortunately look at the support ACT got last time.. I would love to see ACT in gov... But they are dead in the water.. Too many implosions I'm afraid.. The only reason they are in government is because ShonKey let them in.

I think its a matter of being realistic and looking at the next best option. The Conservatives came close to getting in and I think ShonKey will realise this and grab them as a coalition partner next time around.. And yes as much as I hate John Key, I think the Sheeple of NZ will vote him back in.. Which proves, NZ doesn't know whats good for them.

Re binding referendum, I do believe the people know whats good for them. Look at the insane decisions our government has made over the years.. We are in the process of loosing our beaches to a race of people. Iwi are now looking at charging for 90 mile beach as one tragic example. You cant tell me the people of NZ don't know better than that??

As for the Conservative Party being gay bashers. That's just media beat up. I was privy to a gay asking Colin if he could join their membership and Colin welcomed him with open arms. Colin simply disagreed with gay Marriage.  I have friends who are gay, yet I think Marriage was an institution created for straight couples. That doesn't make me a homophobe.  My gay friends know my thoughts, and disagree.. No worries there, we cant all agree on everything but we don't go hating on each other just because we cant reach the same conclusions on something..

Colin Craig has been the victim of a huge media beat up and its worked. People now call him moon man.. lol.. And yes, Colin has set that b.s straight too..  I was annoyed to listen to a reporter laughing and fully admitting on a tv talk show, that they targeted Colin for a media beat up. Bloody media got a lot to answer for.. But getting off track here a little..

I think you just got to look at your best options and run with it..

Oh and ACT, need to change their immigration policies.. We need to stop letting in Muslim extremists.. I have spoken with ACT politicians on this and they just don't get it.

we do share fairly similar sentiments though and I would love to see ACT get a lot more support.. Its' a hard one. As much as I think we need to vote a smaller party in to make it the new mainstream big party, I think its a matter of going with the one that has the most support and the best chance of getting in if that makes sense..

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Oh and ACT, need to change their immigration policies.. We need to stop letting in Muslim extremists.. I have spoken with ACT politicians on this and they just don't get it.

 

 

And how do you propose that? Do you just have it on the little immigration card you get on the plane?

 

"Are you a Muslim extremist ? [ ] Yes   [ ] No"

 

 

Did you know the dude that was backing up the Muslim state was a Maori fella? How do you do that?  Build a time machine and deport him when he is a little baby?

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Best way (not foolproof) is to avoid the mistake britain and euro countries make and not instill a pseudo liberal progressive culture here. We stand firm with our values and heritage and take no shit from people who oppose it, as well as protect our rights to speak our word. E,g a brit politician draged out of parliament by cops for quoting winston churchil on islam. Meanwhile, Anjeem Choudary (a citizen) speaks about beheading the queen and gets taxpayer benefits and police protection.

Dont bend our asses over for fucktards that call us 'racist' and 'biggots' and stay strong and let the muzzies know where we stand.

 

Buffalo ACT is a very strong party that takes no bs from muzzies so I doubt they would say something like that.

ACT has had it's golden moments with well over 8 MP's in parliament. The reason people do not vote for them is they are viewed as pro rich and anti maori / poor. and untill that sentiment is defeated then majority will not like them. It's sad really that so many leftists have that anti institution mentality. They can f*ck themselves.

So It would be really nice if people play their part to let people se ACT as they are and what they stand for. If they get a Seat outside remuera, maybe northland / south auckland then that would be a great victory.

 

However I cannot reconcile voting conservative. Collin craig is a retard and this is based on reading his statements and website and not the media which is a leftist shithole anyway.

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