Human-Grade Gear Brands in NZ

[milky]

Hey all, long time lurker first time poster here.

 

I was wondering what PHARMACEUTICAL brands of gear float around in NZ (imported, not UGL), and what some peoples experiences have been with them? Were they hard to get hold of? And were they worth the extra cash over UGL gear? Results etc.

 

Planning to start my first cycle soon and I'm wondering if I should wait till I can get my hands on human-grade injectables, rather than just go with my local.

 

I'm not after sources, so please no PM's with any! 

[Hu Gh]

That sucks youre not after a source br0 coz i got 350 ampules of bayer test e (250mg/ml) that im trying to get rid of that i would have sold you some of

[Spacebound]

Thats funny cause, youre not after a source br0 coz i got bout tree fiddy ampules of bayer test e (250mg/ml) that im trying to get rid of that i would have sold you some of too

[milky]

That sucks youre not after a source br0 coz i got 350 ampules of bayer test e (250mg/ml) that im trying to get rid of that i would have sold you some of

 

Such a shame aye brah =P

[Realtalk]

Can't talk bout brands in here bro. You'll be banned.

[milky]

Can't talk bout brands in here bro. You'll be banned.

 

I can understand discussing UGL "brands" is a total no-go, but I believe the sticky say's that "we do not allow members to discuss non-pharmaceutical brand names".

Rather, my question is regarding legitimate pharmaceutical HG gear and how common they are in New Zealand. 

If I am mistaken, I apologize, forgive me!

[Realtalk]

Can't talk bout brands in here bro. You'll be banned.

 

I can understand discussing UGL "brands" is a total no-go, but I believe the sticky say's that "we do not allow members to discuss non-pharmaceutical brand names".

Rather, my question is regarding legitimate pharmaceutical HG gear and how common they are in New Zealand. 

If I am mistaken, I apologize, forgive me!

They aren't common. Hope that answers your question.

[GyzzBrah]

Then how come azide gets bayer?

[maccaz]

Then how come azide gets bayer?

 

jesus christ lol

[Realtalk]

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[atrollappears]

Hey all, long time lurker first time poster here.

 

I was wondering what PHARMACEUTICAL brands of gear float around in NZ (imported, not UGL), and what some peoples experiences have been with them? Were they hard to get hold of? And were they worth the extra cash over UGL gear? Results etc.

 

Planning to start my first cycle soon and I'm wondering if I should wait till I can get my hands on human-grade injectables, rather than just go with my local.

 

I'm not after sources, so please no PM's with any! 

 

Sustanon 250

Testosterone undecanoate 250mg/ml X 4ml

Testosterone cypionate 100mg/ml

Nandrolone decanoate 1 mL 50 mg/ mL 

 

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/searchResults.asp?q=testosterone

 

Prices are prohibitive unless you have a prescription for pharma testosterones, here in NZ..

 

If you can find a good quality UG-lab like Apollo or Cobra you may find the price and quality very reasonable...

[Hu Gh]

Then how come azide gets bayer?

Lol I havent purchased pharma grade gear gurubrah. Just buy raw test and make my own then I know true dosage etc. Works out being very cheap too. Do apollo or cobra even still exist? Everyone I know in nz on gear using non branded ugl shit now.

[milky]

They aren't common. Hope that answers your question.

Perfectly, thanks mate. 

 

atrollappears cheers, top advice. One can dream about getting their hands on some Sustanon.

 

Guess I'll have to settle for UGL until something better turns up.

[atrollappears]

They aren't common. Hope that answers your question.

Perfectly, thanks mate. 

 

atrollappears cheers, top advice. One can dream about getting their hands on some Sustanon.

 

Guess I'll have to settle for UGL until something better turns up.

 

I used pharma sustanon for over 12 years back in the UK, I wouldn't say it was any better than most UG-labs I've used...

[Hu Gh]

Yeah its not gh so who cares if its pharma. If you got x amount test powder and you dissolve it its same as x amount pharma test same ester.

Just dont buy gear off ppl that are peices of shit and if you think you been ripped off get tests and demand money back if its fake and if they say no f*ck them or their property or their life up. Dont be a fucking pussy coz its guys that are pussies that keep these scamming cunts in business

[maccaz]

Yeah its not gh so who cares if its pharma. If you got x amount test powder and you dissolve it its same as x amount pharma test same ester.

Just dont buy gear off ppl that are peices of shit and if you think you been ripped off get tests and demand money back if its fake and if they say no f*ck them or their property or their life up. Dont be a fucking pussy coz its guys that are pussies that keep these scamming cunts in business

 

is there any difference in quality of raws between what can be bought from china and what bayer/whoever else would get?

eg is 200mg of test e powder from one manufacturer gonna = 200 from another manufacturer? legit question i wouldnt have a clue

[Clueless]

 

Yeah its not gh so who cares if its pharma. If you got x amount test powder and you dissolve it its same as x amount pharma test same ester.

Just dont buy gear off ppl that are peices of shit and if you think you been ripped off get tests and demand money back if its fake and if they say no f*ck them or their property or their life up. Dont be a fucking pussy coz its guys that are pussies that keep these scamming cunts in business

 

is there any difference in quality of raws between what can be bought from china and what bayer/whoever else would get?

eg is 200mg of test e powder from one manufacturer gonna = 200 from another manufacturer? legit question i wouldnt have a clue

 

If you can buy from the manufacturer? If buying in large quantitys would be the same. Think most pharmaceuticals probably made in china.

[HarryB]

 

Yeah its not gh so who cares if its pharma. If you got x amount test powder and you dissolve it its same as x amount pharma test same ester.

Just dont buy gear off ppl that are peices of shit and if you think you been ripped off get tests and demand money back if its fake and if they say no f*ck them or their property or their life up. Dont be a fucking pussy coz its guys that are pussies that keep these scamming cunts in business

 

is there any difference in quality of raws between what can be bought from china and what bayer/whoever else would get?

eg is 200mg of test e powder from one manufacturer gonna = 200 from another manufacturer? legit question i wouldnt have a clue

 

 

 Actually interesting question and one that's been getting raised over here a fair bit with the UG operators. Seems to be a common consensus that they purity of the chinese test isn't what should be and so sometimes the guys mix it up thinking it's going to come out one strength and it comes out a little weaker when tested.

 

 Plenty of unscrupulous types out there making a whole heap of money on extremely watered down shit but there's a big difference between getting 220mg/ml instead of 250mg/ml and getting 100mg/ml when guys are telling you it's 300... I hear they water down the clen and everything.

 

 Who knows anymnore, I just stick with my antler velvet and tribulus.

[maccaz]

 

 

Yeah its not gh so who cares if its pharma. If you got x amount test powder and you dissolve it its same as x amount pharma test same ester.

Just dont buy gear off ppl that are peices of shit and if you think you been ripped off get tests and demand money back if its fake and if they say no f*ck them or their property or their life up. Dont be a fucking pussy coz its guys that are pussies that keep these scamming cunts in business

 

is there any difference in quality of raws between what can be bought from china and what bayer/whoever else would get?

eg is 200mg of test e powder from one manufacturer gonna = 200 from another manufacturer? legit question i wouldnt have a clue

 

 

 Actually interesting question and one that's been getting raised over here a fair bit with the UG operators. Seems to be a common consensus that they purity of the chinese test isn't what should be and so sometimes the guys mix it up thinking it's going to come out one strength and it comes out a little weaker when tested.

 

 Plenty of unscrupulous types out there making a whole heap of money on extremely watered down shit but there's a big difference between getting 220mg/ml instead of 250mg/ml and getting 100mg/ml when guys are telling you it's 300... I hear they water down the clen and everything.

 

 Who knows anymnore, I just stick with my antler velvet and tribulus.

 

yeah reason i mentioned it is on australian forums some people are saying the raws are to blame, more expensive or less common raws are usually underdosed/not what they are supposed to be (think mast enanth was mentioned as one of the raws that is often cut with something cheaper/easier to find)

[HarryB]

Or perhaps they're just making excuses for turning out shit gear .... that's what the jaded amongst us might say....

[maccaz]

Or perhaps they're just making excuses for turning out shit gear .... that's what the jaded amongst us might say....

yeah nah dont know or care either way

either (prob both) is possible

so many aus brands, new ones appear every week, so the shit/fake ones disappear pretty quick

[HarryB]

 

Or perhaps they're just making excuses for turning out shit gear .... that's what the jaded amongst us might say....

yeah nah dont know or care either way

either (prob both) is possible

so many aus brands, new ones appear every week, so the shit/fake ones disappear pretty quick

 

 

 Well what you find is that it's the same group of people churning out different brand names.. Especially when there's a high volume of product. Mind you that's just where I am. I don't know what it's like in other states.

[Realtalk]

get bloods done regularly and you will know if your gear is good. If you think your test e is test prop then f*ck around with it for abit take a blood test then don't have any more for a while and get another test couple week later, not hard to workout.

No one gets blood tests tho so I guess u never know. To be black and white If u getting bigger and stronger then who actually cares lol... U induce catabolism by worrying bout it

[maccaz]

get bloods done regularly and you will know if your gear is good. If you think your test e is test prop then f*ck around with it for abit take a blood test then don't have any more for a while and get another test couple week later, not hard to workout.

No one gets blood tests tho so I guess u never know. To be black and white If u getting bigger and stronger then who actually cares lol... U induce catabolism by worrying bout it

 

is there a certain level in blood test you should expect for x dose? like what should 500mg/week test give you in blood test?

[GyzzBrah]

And also to add to what maccaz said when should the tests be done after injecting, depending on the half life etc?