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Steroid cycles through various sports

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Was just reading in a thread where someone didnt like Lance Armstrong for using steroids and it got me wondering whats the difference in cycles used between different types of sports ?  If you set aside drug tested sports from non tested to start then how does a top level bodybuilders cycle differ from that of a top level powerlifter?  Maybee Dan Greens vs Kai Greenes ?    Then jump accross to tested and how does say an olympic sprinters differ from a cyclist or MMA fighter?     Obviously not all of them use gear but im sure a shit ton would who never get caught.  What are the standard items one would use that other sports wouldnt.  Im guessing Testosterone is a base in most but its all volumes used and extras im curious about.

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Was just reading in a thread where someone didnt like Lance Armstrong for using steroids and it got me wondering whats the difference in cycles used between different types of sports ?  If you set aside drug tested sports from non tested to start then how does a top level bodybuilders cycle differ from that of a top level powerlifter?  Maybee Dan Greens vs Kai Greenes ?    Then jump accross to tested and how does say an olympic sprinters differ from a cyclist or MMA fighter?     Obviously not all of them use gear but im sure a shit ton would who never get caught.  What are the standard items one would use that other sports wouldnt.  Im guessing Testosterone is a base in most but its all volumes used and extras im curious about.

How I understand a serious powerlifting stack: No hard androgens at all in the off season, its not about using drugs to gain strength, its all about enhancement of recovery, increasing connective tissue strength and regeneration, increase joint integrity, improving training stamina. Use mild anabolics, nandrolone, or boldenone based, (use massive boldenone doses), low tren, low test. Using training to gain strength NOT DRUGS. Hard androgens when preparing for a competition, hGH in off season, purely for connective tissue strengthening..

For boxers/MMA: Short chain estered testosterone, test suspension, viramone, winstrol, anadrol, t-bol (watch anavar for cramps) hGH, EPO, for a conditioning sport, but not endurance. Red blood cell count high for stamina.. Mibolerone 1 -2 hrs pre-fight for agression..

cyclists = homo's = don't give a shite..!! 

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Most mma fighters go for winny/stonozolol from the looks of it, funny thing is in the years I've been doing Judo I've never seen/heard of someone getting busted for being on the juice (then again not many get tested I guess...being Japanese is a steroid in itself)

 

 

http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/

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I remember one the oldtimers in the gym telling about the steroid use he seen when he toured with the WWE in 1990's. It was normally a full barrel of pharma grade test most days and orals by the handful used by the big boys. He also said rec and script drugs were out of control as well. He said one of the most famous wrestlers of that era had gotten in so much debt with a drug dealer that they threaten to kill him during a performance and shoot him from the crowd. Crazy shiz

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Im a bit curious about people who mega dose aas. Like how come a lot of these people popping ridiculous ammounts (wrestlers, bostin loyd, etc) all look like shit, and never end up looking remotley like a pro bodybuilder?

Daz could probably answer this, but is it purley genetic, or is it that they are taking so much that their receptors are fully saturated and they piss out the rest?

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Why would strongmen use so little. Im kind of skeptical

Partly because Strongman success is largely based off years and years of heavy lifting, and there is a high risk of injury. Simply put you can't become an overnight sensation in SM andlast for long on the circuit. Putting 60kg on your deadlift in 10 weeks simply leads to bicep tears etc. Every now and then someone who clearly uses huge dosages pops onto the scene, but the reality is you then have to run those dosages all year to compete internationally. So it lends itself to guys who already are freaks and use gear for an edge rather than guys who are freaks because they run 4g a week.

If you're skeptical I'm telling you this based off first hand discussions with Top 10 in the world SM. 

Yes, 250-500mg pw plus Dbol and sometimes Tren. 

There is no substitute for smart training.

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Until recently the SM season ran Jan-end September. You have to be in peak shape that whole time just about with big comps in March and Worlds in September. You got 6 weeks notice if you made WSM. In addition Nov and Dec usually have some meets where a top guy would make some money. See what I mean?

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Im a bit curious about people who mega dose aas. Like how come a lot of these people popping ridiculous ammounts (wrestlers, bostin loyd, etc) all look like shit, and never end up looking remotley like a pro bodybuilder?

Daz could probably answer this, but is it purley genetic, or is it that they are taking so much that their receptors are fully saturated and they piss out the rest?


Think I've answered this somewhere else in greater depth..

Androgen receptor saturation isn't supposed to happen until about 3-4g/week..  growth isnt linear, and for testosterone, gains seem to start slowinging somewhere after 750mg/week.. (in most people) 

Androgen receptors do upregulate over time, the longer you take AAS, the more the body seems to accomodate greater amounts, this may be due to the increase in lean body mass over the years, and the need for more AAS to hold onto an increase in muscle mass..

I've recently found papers that explain why hGH can be used to enable larger doses of AAS to be taken and utilised more effectively... (unfortunately I'm at work so don't have them here)...

Do most bodybuilders, in fact do most pro body builders look like pro bodybuilders all the time...?

Do they stay in competition condition more than a few hours...?

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