perfecting squat and deadlift form

[maccaz]

Can anyone recommend an online coach (or happy to pay someone on here who knows what theyre doing to watch my videos and tell me how to fix form)
pretty sure can add a little weight just by sorting out form, so want to sus that out going forward rather than getting stronger with bad form.

pt's in my gym are jokes, better off not asking, most of them recommend smith machine squats "much safer"

Problems I have are:

squat: current 110kg pb, all time pb is 140kg

need to have plates under heels, gonna buy some lifting shoes soon to sort this
chest drops too much 
cant sit back into it
can squat atg with plates under heels, but it feels like my quads dont get worked at all, only hams/glutes
unsure about feet placement, think i have them too close and pointing too far out

deadlift current 170kg pb, all time is 180kg
unsure whats up with my form, but pretty ugly im guessing

 

anyone whos keen to help out I can pm you video links (will film some on weekend or something)

 

 

[Realtalk]

Just film it and put it up in this thread. Help for free mate 

[Leeroid]

Yeah post it on here but sounds like you've got mobility/flexibility issues. Heaps of stretching everyday

[maccaz]

sweet will post in here chur

 

[jimmybro1]

Might have to post some videos of my rubbish deadlifts also. 

[Realtalk]

No offence to anyone but Squat and deadlift aren't exactly very technical lifts if you are shit at them it is probably because you have shit flexibility in certain areas and/or are weak and imbalanced.. So for example squat you might have a strong lower back and weak legs so what you're gonna do is compensate by using your back more  resulting in an ugly as squat. Drop the weight.

none of the powerlifting movements are technical... That's the whole point of powerlifting to see who is strongest not who has best technique. That is why I like powerlifting it is the true test of strength IMO there is little technique involved in the lifts and they are power movements.

[M.T]

No offence to anyone but Squat and deadlift aren't exactly very technical lifts if you are shit at them it is probably because you have shit flexibility in certain areas and/or are weak and imbalanced.. So for example squat you might have a strong lower back and weak legs so what you're gonna do is compensate by using your back more  resulting in an ugly as squat. Drop the weight.

none of the powerlifting movements are technical... That's the whole point of powerlifting to see who is strongest not who has best technique. That is why I like powerlifting it is the true test of strength IMO there is little technique involved in the lifts and they are power movements.

*dirol*

[jimmybro1]

No offence to anyone but Squat and deadlift aren't exactly very technical lifts if you are shit at them it is probably because you have shit flexibility in certain areas and/or are weak and imbalanced.. So for example squat you might have a strong lower back and weak legs so what you're gonna do is compensate by using your back more  resulting in an ugly as squat. Drop the weight.

none of the powerlifting movements are technical... That's the whole point of powerlifting to see who is strongest not who has best technique. That is why I like powerlifting it is the true test of strength IMO there is little technique involved in the lifts and they are power movements.

I disagree the better the bar part the more efficiently your going to move the weight. Some have better leaverages than others making them mechincally more superior of particular movements. 

Definitely agree with flexability being a big factor and particular muscle group imbalances as well, but technique also has its place. 

 

[maccaz]

No offence to anyone but Squat and deadlift aren't exactly very technical lifts if you are shit at them it is probably because you have shit flexibility in certain areas and/or are weak and imbalanced.. So for example squat you might have a strong lower back and weak legs so what you're gonna do is compensate by using your back more  resulting in an ugly as squat. Drop the weight.

none of the powerlifting movements are technical... That's the whole point of powerlifting to see who is strongest not who has best technique. That is why I like powerlifting it is the true test of strength IMO there is little technique involved in the lifts and they are power movements.

nah i know what you mean, i agree theyre not super technical

probably is flexibility. i can definitely squat, and am getting stronger at it, just reckon it doesnt feel "right"  and if improving form makes it feel more natural then its worth sorting out 

will try get vids up on the weekend anyway

 

 

[Realtalk]

What's technical about it they are gross motor skills. Oly lifting and gymnastics is techical not a squat and deadlift. I know you guys who pride yourselves on your squat and deadlift don't like to hear it but it's true, I said no offence. 

[teamfatboy]

I get what you're saying about Oly lifting:  Oly lifting is technical, like the difference between a push press and a clean-and-jerk... any hint of a press-out and it's a no-lift. 

I'd argue the same is true in competitive powerlifting - in competition, when you're working on the last few percentage points of raw capability, good technique will make a helluva difference.  

Technique delivers the little efficiencies that make the most of what you've got.. or to put it another way, if two lifters are equally strong, the one with better technique will lift more every time (and live to talk about it ).

[AZIDE]

the thread wasnt about competitive level shit..just about basic form. obviously youre gonna lift more if you make small changes to technique if you arent doing it optimally to begin with but saying powerlifting is technical is like saying running is technical. being the best at it might be but doing it properly isnt

[GyzzBrah]

To answer OP's question, there is an online coach called Jonnie Candito (3rd 2014 IPF champion) and If you pay him a few bucks, he will thourgly checy your form in all 3 lifts plus a few extra, and will also offer advice on how to correct the form e.g if you have weak hamstrings he will show you how to fix them etc.

The guy is amazing proffesional coach, so you would be in the right hands. Heres the Link:

http://www.canditotraininghq.com/form-check-service-1/

 

[M.T]

To answer OP's question, there is an online coach called Jonnie Candito (3rd 2014 IPF champion) and If you pay him a few bucks, he will thourgly checy your form in all 3 lifts plus a few extra, and will also offer advice on how to correct the form e.g if you have weak hamstrings he will show you how to fix them etc.

The guy is amazing proffesional coach, so you would be in the right hands. Heres the Link:

http://www.canditotraininghq.com/form-check-service-1/

 

I've gone through his videos since he posted about Brett and they are legit. Picked up a few things after being a PL for 3-4 odd years.

The other one I know a few people have used is mike tuchscherer. Not too cheap but if you are looking for the best then he's up there.

My 5c there is no "perfect form" it's about finding the right form for your body type.

[maccaz]

thanks for all the input

i agree its not a real technical lift but if small adjustments will make me able to lift more im gonna make them.

will post some vids up after next legs session and next deadlift session and go from there.

cheers

[BarBrother]

powerlifting is like running lol

[Realtalk]

In after WADA

[BarBrother]

don't you mean in before WADA? coz there is no way you would be in after WADA lol

[nate225]

don't you mean in before WADA? coz there is no way you would be in after WADA lol

Nah definitely IN.....

INfront of the Sports Tribunal! :-D

[Realtalk]

don't you mean in before WADA? coz there is no way you would be in after WADA lol

Nah GPC bradas 

[B_Eden]

Seconding the Candito opinion, post up a video link here first though and we'll see how we can help.