"Breakfast helps burn fat, control blood sugar"

[Pseudonym]

Here's one for us Intermittent Fasters to consider:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health-wellbeing/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501238&objectid=11268198

It attributes the higher number of calories burnt by the breakfast-east group purely to the fact that they became more active. What it doesn't say is how the caloric deficit compares to the fasting group (who had 20% fewer calories in their diet each day).

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

[Dinahlady]

Yeah they also mentioned that the no breakfast group ended up eating 20% (probably around 500 cals) less calories, just by skipping breakfast, pretty handy if you were trying to diet.... 

[AZIDE]

breakfast is just something that your parents the government made up to induce conformity and discourage individuality. also its a well known fact from clinical research that 99.7% of obese NZers do not skip breakfast

[Cameron_R]

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

Out of curiosity, what do you take, post work out, to help create that spike?

[Leeroid]

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

Out of curiosity, what do you take, post work out, to help create that spike?

Humalog

[Cameron_R]

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

Out of curiosity, what do you take, post work out, to help create that spike?

Humalog

:-)

I was thinking more along the natty lines of a chocolate Freddo Frog or some sugar in your PWO shake (how much I don't know!?).

Just curious how Pseudo does it.

[AZIDE]

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

Out of curiosity, what do you take, post work out, to help create that spike?

Humalog

I was thinking more along the natty lines of a chocolate Freddo Frog or some sugar in your PWO shake (how much I don't know!?).

Just curious how Pseudo does it.

ffs stop asking stupid shit and post something interesting like one of your stories from diving in mexico. what was that like?

 

[Cameron_R]

Not sure if you're serious, but it was life changing. If you care, you can watch this video to see some of the work I was involved in and type of diving that was done.

http://vimeo.com/57780176


But life moves on man. Now I want to learn some new stuff, and I'm the first to say I'm a BB/gym newbie. So I'll ask stupid shit when ever I need to.
 

[Pseudonym]

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

Out of curiosity, what do you take, post work out, to help create that spike?

Well, I do have sugar and/or a banana in my protein shake. But TBH I think it's more that everything I eat helps create that spike. Because I'd been fasting all day, blood sugar levels are low. So when I do eat, the insulin is spiked almost regardless of what I eat. (The large meal-sizes would also have a bearing on it.)

That was my gut feeling about what was happening. And it seems like this study might confirm that.

[AZIDE]

yeah i was srs, will watch at work tomorrow. and yeah you just have something high GI like dextrose/lollies/whatever with your post workout shake/meat/whatever the f*ck you eat for protein. personally id just eat haf a bag of lollies or whole bag, or 1.5L drink. 70-150g simple carbs at a guess. however i doubt doing this will be 'life changing'

[Leeroid]

I thought fasting was supposed to make your insulin sensitivity higher. This would result in less insulin required to lower blood glucose. What exactly do they mean when they say breakfast eaters had "better blood sugar control"? Stable blood glucose levels? Higher insulin sensitivity?

[Dinahlady]

I thought fasting was supposed to make your insulin sensitivity higher. This would result in less insulin required to lower blood glucose. What exactly do they mean when they say breakfast eaters had "better blood sugar control"? Stable blood glucose levels? Higher insulin sensitivity?

Who the f*ck knows - its a nzherald article.... 

[Leeroid]

 

I thought fasting was supposed to make your insulin sensitivity higher. This would result in less insulin required to lower blood glucose. What exactly do they mean when they say breakfast eaters had "better blood sugar control"? Stable blood glucose levels? Higher insulin sensitivity?

Who the f*ck knows - its a nzherald article.... 

I wish they would at least link the study that they're quoting so that we can see if it has any credibility and decide whether the journalist's interpretation of the study is correct or not.

[Dinahlady]

Ta Da. 

http://oregon.providence.org/~/media/Files/Providence%20OR%20Migrated%20PDFs/Patients%20Toolkit/388.pdf

 

 

[mrgeeky]

Here's one for us Intermittent Fasters to consider:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/health-wellbeing/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501238...

It attributes the higher number of calories burnt by the breakfast-east group purely to the fact that they became more active. What it doesn't say is how the caloric deficit compares to the fasting group (who had 20% fewer calories in their diet each day).

The findings on fluctuating blood sugar levels in the fasting group is quite interesting too. It certainly matches my own fasting experience. The only difference is that as a bodybuilder, I'd considered a post-workout rise in blood sugar (and therefore insulin) to be a good thing!

I dont believe that article.. If I eat breaky, I feel lethargic, tired, foggy thinking.. Cant get off my ass and get anything done.  If I eat nothing before 12.pm, I feel alive. Much more energy. Im far more active.. I can push my self much harder at the gym.. I dont think there is one size fits all..

[Riccardo]

Well this would be pretty damning evidence if it had of been designed a bit better, should have been a randomized crossover trial where energy expenditure and intake were matched. There was roughly 100cal more consumed by the omitting breakfast group per day. A poorly designed study tbh. They extended the fast only till 10:30 lol would love to see a proper study done on this.