1st injection not to sure if I did dosage correct help?

[mankychops]

Hey just did my first injection of eq and test - e

 

1.4ml of each both vials are 250mg/ml so 1.4ml = 350 mg of each moving on to the injection ..

 

I had trouble drawing back 1.4ml of each out of the vials i had to draw all the way back to 3ml push back then re-do until it got to 1.4ml it wouldn't just smooth withdraw back to 1.4 in one go :/ (seen the videos) followed them too :/ anyways I switched needles to draw back the test e and some come out the top (the syringe is spring loaded or something so while In the process) then I did the above to get 1.4ml and I couldn't get it back to 2.8ml all up got close went to inject looked away (nervous) noticed just before I injected there was nothing in the first .5ml just air what do I do? 

 

Panic mode = engaged :/ help?

[Ben0]

Did you inject air into the vial before drawing? You held vial upside down and the pin was fully in the oil ?

[Ben0]

Also what size beheld you drawing with?

[mankychops]

Yes i injected half a syringe of air put needle into oil held upside down but didn't help so just tried without air but didn't help either

 

needle size is 23g 1 1/4 I used to draw and inject should I use different for drawing ? 

[AZIDE]

you are an idiot. changing needles to draw from different vials and using too small a diameter needle.

 

use one needle, a large one to draw eg 18-21g and a second smaller one eg 23-27g to pin.

 

the air wont matter.

 

 

[Rxx]

R.I.P

[AZIDE]

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[Leeroid]

U gonn die man. Another life claimed by steroids

[Realtalk]

You Needa go to Devonport and tell the gate security at navy base that you have injected air into your blood. They will put you in a decompression chamber. You got bout 30mins to live. Good night sweet prince.

[Realtalk]

But seriously a small amount of air won't matter. If you u inject air anywhere into yourself and it kills you then I guarantee you injecting oil into that same place would be just as bad. It's not a bright idea to inject air lol but the stories you hear are bullshit.

[Ben0]

Get yourself some 18g needles, use the same one for both vials. Inject the same amount of air into the first vial as you are wanting to draw then pull back plunger slowly. I normally draw a bit more then needed then give the barrel a flick so any bubbles goto the top, then press plunger back in till you have the correct dose, and this pushes out any air. For the second vial dont worry about injecting air and just draw what you need.Withdraw needle from vial and pull back on plunger to get the last of the oil out of the needle. Fit your 23-25g needle then flick any bubbles to the top of the barrel again,then push out on the plunger intill a drop of oil comes out of the needle (lubes up the needle a bit to) then you should be good to go.

[Ketogains]

I use 20g 1 inch needles to fill and inject - i do swap after filling though since the needle will be a bit duller and hurts a bit more, a good size needle is essential for easy filling.  put at least the amount of air into vial from syringe that you are about to draw - put in more and you get extra back pressure makes it easy.

Unless you are injecting with syringe pointing upwards the air will not be the first to go in it should move to just underneath the plunger shortly after upending the syring and if you are watching you can stop by the time the air bubble gets to needle. if you are not watching... well. the air wont kill you anyway - BUT if you ever begin intraveinously injecting substances and inject air you probably wont make it to the keyboard to ask advice.

if you look away or shut your eyes you wont see any sign of blood when you asperate - 999 times out of a thousand you wont have hit a blood vessel but you really dont want to either. its always advisable to check before getting on that plunger IMO.

[AZIDE]

BUT if you ever begin intraveinously injecting substances and inject air you probably wont make it to the keyboard to ask advice.

 

thats bs you could inject whole 3ml syringe of air into a vein any you wont die lol

[Ketogains]

actually i just read up on this and you are right AZIDE, heres the straight dope:

 Air embolism, as the MDs call air in the bloodstream, can definitely kill you. The mechanism of death or injury depends on the size of the air embolus (the bubble) and where it lodges in the body. One way is akin to vapor lock, an automotive problem in the beaters of my youth. If vapor developed in the fuel line, the engine died. If an air bubble gets into a blood vessel, so might you.

I'll explain that shortly, but first we need to understand how air gets into the blood in the first place. We've discussed some bizarre routes here in the past — for example, by blowing into the vagina of a pregnant woman during oral sex. More common is air entering accidentally via injection or IV tube, or when blood vessels are cut during surgery. Another possibility arises during ascent after scuba diving, where an increase in air volume in the lungs pushes tiny bubbles of air into the bloodstream that expand as you rise.

Here we need to distinguish between little bubbles and big ones, because they do damage in different ways. Small bubbles can block capillaries in vital organs, most urgently the brain, causing anything from pain and inflammation to neurological damage and paralysis. A small bubble impedes blood flow the same way a solid obstruction would — the bubble's surface tension relative to its size is too great for the force of blood to break it up or shove it along. Bad? Yes. Fatal? Probably not, although see below.

A big bubble, on the other hand, gets us into the vapor lock scenario. Your heart, like the fuel pump in an old car (cars with modern fuel injection work differently), is a simple mechanical device. In ordinary operation, its contracting chambers squeeze the blood out and force it through the circulatory system. All is well. Now imagine a massive air embolus shows up and your heart starts squeezing on that. There's nothing to get any purchase on; the air just compresses. Blood flow stops, and eventually so does your heart.

It also makes a difference where the air bubbles enter. Emboli from injections or IVs are typically confined to veins, but if a bubble ends up in your arteries (which can happen if you have the double misfortune of air in your veins plus a fairly common congenital heart defect), then the bubble can block your coronary arteries or the blood supply to your brain. The former type of blockage, at least, can mean death.

How much air is needed to kill you? That's debatable and doubtless varies, but generally speaking, a lot. One journal article I saw boldly declared that 300 milliliters can be lethal — three-tenths of a liter! You'd need a bicycle pump to inject that. But much less will do the trick; it's said serious damage can result from as little as 20 milliliters, which still isn’t a small amount. In 1949 New Hampshire physician Hermann Sander ended the life of a terminal cancer patient by injecting her with 40 milliliters of air — four syringes of 10 milliliters each. (He called it a mercy killing when arrested but on the stand improbably claimed that he thought the patient was already dead; at any rate he was acquitted.) But people have survived much larger amounts. French doctors reported in 2006 on an 82-year old man scheduled for a CAT scan who was supposed to get 90 milliliters of contrast solution but instead got 90 milliliters of empty syringe. Prompt treatment with pure oxygen saved him.

Despite the uncertainties, air embolism has served as a reasonably dependable method of execution. After public outcry stopped Nazi gassing of mental patients in 1941, psychiatric institutions were ordered to continue so-called mercy killings by less conspicuous means. A program described as "wild euthanasia" began at the Meseritz-Obrawalde hospital in 1942, with doctors selecting the victims and nurses doing the deed. While most of the murders were carried out with overdoses of sedatives, some patients were injected with air, which usually killed them within minutes. Though thousands of patients died, at trial years after the war 14 nurses claimed they were just following orders and were acquitted. Decades later Germany saw another rash of murders-by-embolism when a nurse confessed to injecting an estimated 60 to 130 milliliters of air into the veins of 15 seriously ill elderly patients. All died. So maybe not 100 percent lethal. But lethal enough.

[maccaz]

You Needa go to Devonport and tell the gate security at navy base that you have injected air into your blood. They will put you in a decompression chamber. You got bout 30mins to live. Good night sweet prince.

[Realtalk]

 

BUT if you ever begin intraveinously injecting substances and inject air you probably wont make it to the keyboard to ask advice.

 

thats bs you could inject whole 3ml syringe of air into a vein any you wont die lol

I think that's pretty incorrect bro, that's a lot of air and putting that much into a main vein such as where they put a trace needle in for hospital use would harm you.

[AZIDE]

 

BUT if you ever begin intraveinously injecting substances and inject air you probably wont make it to the keyboard to ask advice.

 

thats bs you could inject whole 3ml syringe of air into a vein any you wont die lol

I think that's pretty incorrect bro, that's a lot of air and putting that much into a main vein such as where they put a trace needle in for hospital use would harm you.

straight from wikipedia, but i researched it extensively a year ago and it is correct.

 

For venous air embolisms, death may occur if a large bubble of gas becomes lodged in the heart, stopping blood from flowing from the right ventricle to the lungs (this is similar to vapor lock in engine fuel systems).^[2][3] However, experiments in animals ^[4]show that the amount of gas necessary for this to happen is quite variable. Human case reports suggest that injecting more than 100 mL of air into the venous system at rates greater than 100 mL/s can be fatal.^[5] Very large and symptomatic amounts of venous air emboli may also occur in rapid decompression in severe diving or decompression accidents, where they may interfere with circulation in the lungs and result in respiratory distress and hypoxia.^[6]

 

Gas embolism into an artery, termed arterial gas embolism (AGE), is a more serious matter than in a vein, because a gas bubble in an artery may directly stop blood flow to an area fed by the artery. The symptoms of 'AGE' depend on the area of blood flow, and may be those of stroke or heart attack if the brain or heart, respectively, is affected.^[6] The amount of arterial gas embolism that causes symptoms depends on location - 2 mL of air in the cerebral circulation can be fatal, while 0.5 mL of air into a coronary artery can cause cardiac arrest.^[7][8]

[Realtalk]

Wikipedia lol. Interesting mate.

[AZIDE]

go read medical journals and you will find it essentially says the same thing. has to be a lot of air injected rapidly to kill you if injected into a vein. significantly less if directly into an artery going to your heart or brain.

[jimmybro1]