18 Year old Brah contemplating Not-Natty Status.

[Realtalk]

Never mind.

[Realtalk]

Whose ur trainer and what titles does he have?

[Realtalk]

Post some pics like said earlier, then I'll give you real advice till then you just sound like gymrat but with ncea level 1 English... Drivelling on.

[Leeroid]

Dude u didn't decide when I made my post. U already had ur mind made up when you made this thread.

[Skeletor]

Have your experienced friend do your first few injections and run through the procedure each time. Stick to 500mg a week of test for your first cycle, thats plenty and more than enough for good gains. Have anti e on hand in case problems arise but dont use unless you need it. If you're going to go on and come off than have a decent pct planned, if not stay on and cruise at 150mg for 10 weeks then blast at 500mg again for 12-15 introducing different compounds as time goes by. Most people dont know 100% when tbey start out and half still dont a few cycles in. My main concern would be your age and handling the fluctuations in hormones which is where a lot of young guys have run into problems. Depression, anger, lashing out etc. Stay safe.

[Ben0]

Sounds like you shouldnt take too much advice from your 'expert freind' Recommending two compounds first cycle to an 18yo then charging $200 a vial..he's out to make money, and clearly doesnt give a shit about your best interests. I once talked to a guy (that almost never went to the gym) who had one of these 'friends' and he told me he injected a vial (just one lol) of test 'polyprotanate' which im assuming was test prop. He also said he injected it all into his legs because he wanted them to get bigger *fool* Be carefull who you take your advice from...

[Polo]

6 ft 82kgs and what % bf? Op you haven't learnt anything from this thread?

 

Fresh of the net from bb.com

[Oskarrr]

@ben0 thanks for the advice! I need guidance like this. How much should a decent vial of sust cost?because I got other people here who can sell me shiet thanks! Yeah really wanting to be smart about this all and get the best advice

[Realtalk]

@ben0 thanks for the advice! I need guidance like this. How much should a decent vial of sust cost?because I got other people here who can sell me shiet thanks! Yeah really wanting to be smart about this all and get the best advice

$200 is a fair price. Why should you pay the same price for 1 vial as some people are paying for 10 vials... That's not logical at all. Buy a single you get pillaged, buy in bulk u get looked after. Simple.

youre buying 1 vial.... Sure some one will probably flog you 10ml for $100 and courier it too you... Do you think they are going to answer your phone calls when you have questions and answer you when they don't know you from a bar of soap and have at best made $60 profit. Or you could pay $200 from someone you know who will be there to guide you and remedy any problems you have with the gear.

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. Sure he made money off me but when you're only buying 10ml of oil what do you expect? We aren't dealing with  tinnies from the local pad boys.

You are all quick to criticise the price, but why??

[Ben0]

Fair point realtalk. Fair enough if you are getting a lot of follow up support from the trust worthy person, but I personally have never expected that from suppliers. But im sure there are many who would incourage you to use higher doses/harsh compounds in order to make more money. 

As with anything buying in bulk will make it cheaper. I have paid a wide range of prices in the early days, if you only know one guy and you want the gear, you will pay what they want. Depends how far down the chain they are - most guys at the gym will probably just get you stuff from their supplier and add a mark up, fair enough too, otherwise why would they bother?

Just saying there are some out there charging stupid money for gear, depends how many options you have I guess..

[Realtalk]

It's in everyone's interests to keep prices up. It's proven that low ball prices and trying to undercut everyone only results in a disadvantage for the end user because they get shit stuff. The people at the top are still making the same or similar money.

While price may not be a direct reflection of quality in this case, in the big picture I would say it is.

[AZIDE]

it's weird that pirates would go from shore to shore looking for buried treasure when the real treasure was in the friendships they were making

[Ketogains]

i find that people needing spoon feeding are a bit annoying on the other side of it though there is a lot of contradictory info out there you can read around in circles for hours and not get a definative answer to some questions.  but on the whole op has demonstrated a very shallow search on the required subjects to understand whats needed here.

 

[Oskarrr]

Shot for all input atm guys, decided to go for 500mg/pw of Sust 250 that i'll be ordering soon.

 

Opinion on Adex for PCT/Anti-E just incase gyno or something comes up? Like should i really invest in like nolva for PCT or would Adex do fine? pls input, very thanks

[AZIDE]

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. 

you mean you right?

and lol why did he do your shots for you and not you?

[crazyfacials]

 

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. 

you mean you right?

and lol why did he do your shots for you and not you?

I am 100% natty, but my mate Dave used to to do the roids thing you kids do now days, and he used to complain about self glute injections how hard they were to do solo, or how it hurt to to the jab when he had doms

 

thx pirate man

[Realtalk]

 

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. 

you mean you right?

and lol why did he do your shots for you and not you?

I mean myself? Not sure what that means.

He did my shots for me cause I wasn't comfortable doing them myself on my first cycle.

[Pseudonym]

was indeed a big help... Ppl can get gear from anywhere finding someone who knows their shit is priceless.

That's a good point. And hopefully (not necessarily, but hopefully) someone who knows their shit is less likely to be in it for a quick buck, and less likely to scam you.

So the question is... if you don't know your shit, how can you tell whether your supplier knows his? What would you look for?

[rapz]

Post some pics already op, cant tell anything other than your 18 and not very patient.

[Ben0]

Post some pics already op, cant tell anything other than your 18 and not very patient.

My guess would be 82kg at 25% bodyfat and is a young guy wanting the quick road to mass

[product001]

 

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. 

you mean you right?

and lol why did he do your shots for you and not you?

I mean myself? Not sure what that means.

He did my shots for me cause I wasn't comfortable doing them myself on my first cycle.

I rather enjoyed doing mine on first cycle. First one was a bit scary though but after that sweet. Now i kind of dislike them though.

I dont know why you think the guy will give him advice. Probably will just take the $200 and tell him to get fucked. Thats what I would do if someone kept asking me stupid questions which could be found easily online by googling it.

[AZIDE]

I mean myself? Not sure what that means.

He did my shots for me cause I wasn't comfortable doing them myself on my first cycle.

i meant that you meant that you would get it off yourself if you were him. but i think you were actually meaning get it off the guy for $200 (who im guessing isnt you, but maybe it is?) assuming that he offers advice etc

[Oskarrr]

will post pics later tonight/tomorrow for everyone that mad about it, prepare for lols

[Realtalk]

 

 

if I was new to it I know who I would get from. I paid $300 for my first vial of test, the person trained at my gym, did all my shots for me, answered any questions I had and guided me through my first cycle... You cannot put a price on that. 

you mean you right?

and lol why did he do your shots for you and not you?

I mean myself? Not sure what that means.

He did my shots for me cause I wasn't comfortable doing them myself on my first cycle.

I rather enjoyed doing mine on first cycle. First one was a bit scary though but after that sweet. Now i kind of dislike them though.

I dont know why you think the guy will give him advice. Probably will just take the $200 and tell him to get fucked. Thats what I would do if someone kept asking me stupid questions which could be found easily online by googling it.

Good for you mr product

[Realtalk]

 

 

I mean myself? Not sure what that means.

He did my shots for me cause I wasn't comfortable doing them myself on my first cycle.

i meant that you meant that you would get it off yourself if you were him. but i think you were actually meaning get it off the guy for $200 (who im guessing isnt you, but maybe it is?) assuming that he offers advice etc

I'm not the $200 guy, more of a $2 guy. I havnt been on the Roids 15+ years and unless donkey punches count I havnt achieved various titles I do give advices though.