18 Year old Brah contemplating Not-Natty Status.

[Oskarrr]

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[Ben0]

Probably too young, but you have no doubt read this many times already, and have probably already decided you are going to anyway, so..

I would keep your first cycle to 500mg test e/week. In 2 1ml shots. Over 12-15weeks

Pays to keep it to just one compound incase you react to any of the compounds you know what one it is.

Do all the research on side effects etc and be aware any of them could happen to you 

You might need to do some more research if your saying there have been no steriod related deaths....

[Oskarrr]

Probably too young, but you have no doubt read this many times already, and have probably already decided you are going to anyway, so..

I would keep your first cycle to 500mg test e/week. In 2 1ml shots. Over 12-15weeks

Pays to keep it to just one compound incase you react to any of the compounds you know what one it is.

Do all the research on side effects etc and be aware any of them could happen to you 

You might need to do some more research if your saying there have been no steriod related deaths....

Thanks man will take that into consideration!

 

Oh no i'm sure there are steroid related deaths, where steroids played a factor, but i was talking as in death purely from steroid use. Listening to Marc Lobliner

[Realtalk]

Post some pictures. Show us these serious as f*ck gains.

[Oskarrr]

Post some pictures. Show us these serious as f*ck gains.

Realtalk pls, their natty gains, i know they ain't shit

[Skeletor]

Your body your choice mate. If you're serious about what you want than i say go for it ( provided you have read up on the risks and are aware of what to expect ) When i was your age i was out polluting the hell out my body with smokes and alcohol getting wrecked 4 nights a week. Wish i had the bodybuilding goals back then.

[Oskarrr]

Your body your choice mate. If you're serious about what you want than i say go for it ( provided you have read up on the risks and are aware of what to expect ) When i was your age i was out polluting the hell out my body with smokes and alcohol getting wrecked 4 nights a week. Wish i had the bodybuilding goals back then.

Thanks for support! appreciate it! Yeah i definitely have a differen't attitude towards life than others, haven't touched weed or drinks in over 16 months... my ambitions and goals in my physique are too big and important to f*ck around with that shit haha

[Realtalk]

Post some pictures. Show us these serious as f*ck gains.

Realtalk pls, their natty gains, i know they ain't shit

All good.

bro the gear isn't that good and neither is the bodybuilding lifestyle... It's not like the YouTube videos lol. 

Go do some proper learning your post doesn't even make sense... U talk about a sus and dbol cycle then u say 1.5ml of sus and 1ml of deca... Well that's 3 compounds. And you don't know about dosage? 

You're talking absolute drivel mate... Living for 10 more years, working in a supermarket, looking like a marathon runner, thriving for aesthetics, leave nothing behind when you die... Lol wut? Pmsl

[AZIDE]

 at about 82kg now, 6ft. 

 

I know how to train and diet etc, atm i'm studying personal training and yeild good results for myself and clients

 lol

Anyways i got some mates where i live who are on gear and have got good results and can help me out with it and know where to get it etc.. i've been advised to apparently jump on Sust 250 and Dbol for my first cycle, shooting 2 times a week at 1.5ml of sust a week and 1ml of Deca, now i don't know about dosing or whatever but thats what i've been advised for my first cycle?

[Oskarrr]

Post some pictures. Show us these serious as f*ck gains.

Realtalk pls, their natty gains, i know they ain't shit

All good.

bro the gear isn't that good and neither is the bodybuilding lifestyle... It's not like the YouTube videos lol. 

Go do some proper learning your post doesn't even make sense... U talk about a sus and dbol cycle then u say 1.5ml of sus and 1ml of deca... Well that's 3 compounds. And you don't know about dosage? 

You're talking absolute drivel mate... Living for 10 more years, working in a supermarket, looking like a marathon runner, thriving for aesthetics, leave nothing behind when you die... Lol wut? Pmsl

pls Yeah i'm not thriving for the big as f*ck bodybuilder look, i got a set goal and vision in mind and i know it is past my natural-genetic potentional. Also the DBOL was was a typo, was mean't to be DECA. It is 1.5ml of Sust and 1ml of Deca i've been reccomended by my trainer who was on roids for 15+ years and achieved various titles.

As for my last post yes, il'd rather accept the long term health risks and do what i love and try to achieve my goals and ambitions and my dream and live with no regret and be happy with what im doing, rather than being scared of chasing my dream and not going on gear because of 'possible side effects' and then end up being a depressed non lifting phaggot who works in a supermarket because i never chased dreams or ambitions so never had self confidence, i will be married to a fat sweidsh women who eats my dog one day and leave nothing behind when i die at the age of 53 apart from a fat swedish bitch, my dead dogs corpse and my creatine.

[Rxx]

So your a pt with clients that also has a trainer? Wtf is going on in here. And why the f*ck are dogs getting eaten!?

[AZIDE]

As for my last post yes, il'd rather accept the long term health risks and do what i love and try to achieve my goals and ambitions and my dream and live with no regret and be happy with what im doing, rather than being scared of chasing my dream and not going on gear because of 'possible side effects' and then end up being a depressed non lifting phaggot who works in a supermarket because i never chased dreams or ambitions so never had self confidence, i will be married to a fat sweidsh women who eats my dog one day and leave nothing behind when i die at the age of 53 apart from a fat swedish bitch, my dead dogs corpse and my creatine.

lmao.you mean a chinese woman though i think?

[Oskarrr]

So your a pt with clients that also has a trainer? Wtf is going on in here. And why the f*ck are dogs getting eaten!?

Studying PT. Trainer/Mentor, someone who i look upto and ask for advice. Idk ask the fat swedish bitch that im married to after i don't achieve any good advice from gymnation dot com :'(

[Rxx]

Want some advice? Stop telling us these fucked up stories and people might actually take you seriously! Your really showing your age and makes me wonder if your mature enough to enter said "non-natty status" just yet.

 

[Leeroid]

Dude just take the fucking steroids

No point in this thread/10

[Oskarrr]

Want some advice? Stop telling us these fucked up stories and people might actually take you seriously! Your really showing your age and makes me wonder if your mature enough to enter said "non-natty status" just yet.

 

Soz for playing around, plz no be mad mate.

Dude just take the fucking steroids

No point in this thread/10

Pretty much certain, opinions on dropping the DECA and just running pure Sust for first cycle or what? want to see how my body reacts to compounds one by one imo, keep reading up on shit and i swear its 50/50, one person will say just run sust for 8-12 weeks and you'll get good gains for first cycle, assuming 250-500mg p/w, or stack it with 300-400mg DECA per week. Roid nub so just need advice like this and shit and opinions.

[AZIDE]

just test faggot. 12-15 weeks 300-600mg/week. and forget pct. just cruise or go off without pct drugs. just waste of money plus probs just be fake anyway. test and deca next cycle. how much you paying for this shit anyway?

[Leeroid]

Test only. Sus, cyp or enanthate, don't matter.

[Oskarrr]

just test faggot. 12-15 weeks 300-600mg/week. and forget pct. just cruise or go off without pct drugs. just waste of money plus probs just be fake anyway. test and deca next cycle. how much you paying for this shit anyway?

thats for advice, thinking to do that also, what dosage would you reccomend personally? roughly $200 for 10ml sust 250. same with deca if wanted. not sure if thats good or whatever, like i said nub.

[AZIDE]

stay natty. pls

[Oskarrr]

yeah its good for your 'mates' and for you if you like paying significantly more for shit than the market rate. $100/10ml would be a more common price but still not cheap.

YES! THANK YOU! This is the kind of advice i am seeking also, i ain't no shit about this or anything, if thats true i assume you saved me some srs $$$, i'll look for another dealer i suppose.. so roughly $100 of 10ml is common and acceptable?

[Pseudonym]

I think there are two problems here, Oskarrr.

One is that you're 18 - and although you may not have a problem accepting the risks that go with AAS at a young age, not everyone feels comfortable helping you take those risks. For the record, I think you should wait a little longer. However, if you're not going to wait, consider the rest of my post is about harm minimisation - not endorsement of your use.

The second problem is that you're asking a very generic question, Oskarrr. When you ask about "side effects and experiences" from AAS use in general, the best answer we can give is to tell you to go and read as much as you can - and on as many different forums as you can.

Once you've done that, you'll have much more specific questions to ask, and people will take you much more seriously.

 

However, this bit is quite specific, so let's start with this...

i've been advised to apparently jump on Sust 250 and deca for my first cycle, shooting 2 times a week at 1.5ml of sust a week and 1ml of Deca, now i don't know about dosing or whatever but thats what i've been advised for my first cycle?

#1 - You need to know the dosing. Always. Assuming these are standard dosages (and you shouldn't assume that), this seems like an average-sized dose. Some may argue that's okay. Personally, I think you should start with a much smaller, simpler cycle - particularly given your young age and relative lack of training. I am sure you could get perfectly good results off 250mg of test per week and a good diet.

#2 - Why are you considering this particular cycle? You need to know why this is being suggested over any other options, and what other people think of it. I haven't seen many people recommend this as a first cycle - as Ben0 says, start with plain, simple testosterone.

#3 - You haven't talked about PCT or anti-e at all. What's your plan here?

[AZIDE]

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[Rxx]

 

#2 - Why are you considering this particular cycle? You need to know why this is being suggested over any other options, and what other people think of it. I haven't seen many people recommend this as a first cycle - as Ben0 says, start with plain, simple testosterone.

#3 - You haven't talked about PCT or anti-e at all. What's your plan here?

He doesn't know any of this shit, he just expects us to give him the answers and tell him what to do. You need to know what your doing and why your doing it otherwise you wont learn or understand shit, if this is apparently so important to you then you'll research and learn the answers to your questions for yourself. The amount of information out there is ridiculous, it's just a shame you have to sift though bullshit topics like this to find it.

[Oskarrr]

I think there are two problems here, Oskarrr.

One is that you're 18 - and although you may not have a problem accepting the risks that go with AAS at a young age, not everyone feels comfortable helping you take those risks. For the record, I think you should wait a little longer. However, if you're not going to wait, consider the rest of my post is about harm minimisation - not endorsement of your use.

The second problem is that you're asking a very generic question, Oskarrr. When you ask about "side effects and experiences" from AAS use in general, the best answer we can give is to tell you to go and read as much as you can - and on as many different forums as you can.

Once you've done that, you'll have much more specific questions to ask, and people will take you much more seriously.

 

However, this bit is quite specific, so let's start with this...

i've been advised to apparently jump on Sust 250 and deca for my first cycle, shooting 2 times a week at 1.5ml of sust a week and 1ml of Deca, now i don't know about dosing or whatever but thats what i've been advised for my first cycle?

#1 - You need to know the dosing. Always. Assuming these are standard dosages (and you shouldn't assume that), this seems like an average-sized dose. Some may argue that's okay. Personally, I think you should start with a much smaller, simpler cycle - particularly given your young age and relative lack of training. I am sure you could get perfectly good results off 250mg of test per week and a good diet.

#2 - Why are you considering this particular cycle? You need to know why this is being suggested over any other options, and what other people think of it. I haven't seen many people recommend this as a first cycle - as Ben0 says, start with plain, simple testosterone.

#3 - You haven't talked about PCT or anti-e at all. What's your plan here?

Hey thanks for the response, will reply to your questions as numbered!

 

#1 - Been doing alot of research and after Leeroids comment i've decided and will approach my trainer with the though of just running Sust 250 for 12-15 weeks as a cycle, starting with 250mg/pw and maybe upping to 500 dependant on reaction from body? Will definitely drop the deca as what i've read so far it looks like i should be safe and slow and see how it all works out! my training routine is a 3 days split which has been consistant for over 9 months and am happy with it and made gains I always train heavy and hard with alot of volume, i'm not considered a skinny non lifter.. but im nothing wowing.. yet.

#2 - Considering roids in general to achieve the goals i want to and ambitions, i want to make something of myself and see what i can achieve, and i know to achieve what i have set in mind i will definitely need to take some kind of gear to help me get to the level i want, i've accepted this a while ago! And yes i'm glad to see already the great advice from the forums, definitely wanting to just run sust now, clean and simple! keep the deca out until later on and more expierenced!

#3 - As for PCT i've been doing more reading on this too, was told to take Noval for PCT as a 40/40/20/20.. but i read that may not be nessiciay as apparently a 20/20/10/10 is just as effective, but i'm seeking guidance and expierences so i can make the smartest decisions! which is why i am posting on here

 

in the end everyone here has more experience than me and i'm just here to learn so i can be safe and smart with it, i dont want to jump in and inject copious amount of gear into my ass and die or sometshit lmao haha, already learnt abit and made a decision to drop the DECA etc and learning about pricing.. i know i seem so un-educated and nub about it all.. but everyone learns somewhere and at somepoint, il'd rather be hated on now and learn from some of the good people and here and be smart with it, thank read some bro-science on a random forum and end up hitting like 1000mg of sust and deca that some idiot said.

 

 

 

 

#2 - Why are you considering this particular cycle? You need to know why this is being suggested over any other options, and what other people think of it. I haven't seen many people recommend this as a first cycle - as Ben0 says, start with plain, simple testosterone.

#3 - You haven't talked about PCT or anti-e at all. What's your plan here?

He doesn't know any of this shit, he just expects us to give him the answers and tell him what to do. You need to know what your doing and why your doing it otherwise you wont learn or understand shit, if this is apparently so important to you then you'll research and learn the answers to your questions for yourself. The amount of information out there is ridiculous, it's just a shame you have to sift though bullshit topics like this to find it.

Why so mad.. you just said i need to learn and understand shit.. isn't that why i am here? To learn and take advice from you guys so i can understand this shit? So didn't you just contradict yourself? How am i supposed to know 100% everything about gear without reading up on it and gathering opinions.. i made this thread to gather information with what im looking for, i still surf through the web and talk to people to gain knowledge.. i dont understand why so mad about it all. Another reason i made this topic is so i can try achieve all that information and knowledge without having to sift through bullshit like you said, and a copious amount of hate posts which is exactly what you're doing? I still read up and talk to people about it, i just want to know MORE about it which is why i made a thread like this.... don't be so mad about it i dont understnad.