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That's fine man understand, no worries. Yeah got low test here too unfrotunately and I'm only in late 20's. So, feel your pain in the journey. Although signs are pointing to secondary, so may have a chance to restart natty. But, no doctors are giving me the option of even trying a SERM to do so. 

Also good stuff on getting the Cyp. 

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Wierd also as the script says 2 vials by my calculations it should be 1 vial at 200mg per injection with 4 repeats seems a small error here that may be in my favour, still unsure as to how often I will have it though I will find this out tomorrow.

Cypionate half-lifes at about 6 days, so injections ideally should be every 6 days or less..!!

100mg of compound = 65.8mg of testosterone... Not 100mg..!! 

So in 6 days you should receive about half, 32mg.. kinda f*ck-all..!! The compounded half-lifes should bump it up to about 59mg after 4 half-lifes... (less bioavailibility of about 78% if pinned in glutes)... takes it back to 46mg in 6 days... 

You really want that every 6 days (or less)...... Therefore pinning every 6th day would be required, I don't believe the doctor will be prepared to do that, unless you insist you will pin yourself... 

I would be interested to know what your doctor decides..???

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That's fine man understand, no worries. Yeah got low test here too unfrotunately and I'm only in late 20's. So, feel your pain in the journey. Although signs are pointing to secondary, so may have a chance to restart natty. But, no doctors are giving me the option of even trying a SERM to do so. 

Also good stuff on getting the Cyp. 


Well you need to go to the doctor and tell him you have all the symptoms of low test, do your research first, even get your own blood work. I have learnt so much from these forums and the help people have given if you are suffering low test demand your doctor treat you for it.

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Wierd also as the script says 2 vials by my calculations it should be 1 vial at 200mg per injection with 4 repeats seems a small error here that may be in my favour, still unsure as to how often I will have it though I will find this out tomorrow.

Cypionate half-lifes at about 6 days, so injections ideally should be every 6 days or less..!!

100mg of compound = 65.8mg of testosterone... Not 100mg..!! 

So in 6 days you should receive about half, 32mg.. kinda f*ck-all..!! The compounded half-lifes should bump it up to about 59mg after 4 half-lifes... (less bioavailibility of about 78% if pinned in glutes)... takes it back to 46mg in 6 days... 

You really want that every 6 days (or less)...... Therefore pinning every 6th day would be required, I don't believe the doctor will be prepared to do that, unless you insist you will pin yourself... 

I would be interested to know what your doctor decides..???

 

Well this is just the beginning Troll I will manipulate his arse as much as I can to get where I want to be and thats in the higher ranges for my age. To be honest I thought the doctors would get the script but I have to go to the chemist and get it then make an appointment to see the nurse for the injection I reckon I could persuade him to let me do them and also I know he will need to up the dose. He wants bloods done the before the second injection and i am sure they will be the same test level as now so I will just say to him at that point that perhaps it should be more often.

We will see its early days though.

I think he is thinking 200mg every 14 days I am sure I can get him to do 100mg every 7 days after a bit of time especially if i still have low test after the 14 days

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Wierd also as the script says 2 vials by my calculations it should be 1 vial at 200mg per injection with 4 repeats seems a small error here that may be in my favour, still unsure as to how often I will have it though I will find this out tomorrow.

Cypionate half-lifes at about 6 days, so injections ideally should be every 6 days or less..!!

100mg of compound = 65.8mg of testosterone... Not 100mg..!! 

So in 6 days you should receive about half, 32mg.. kinda f*ck-all..!! The compounded half-lifes should bump it up to about 59mg after 4 half-lifes... (less bioavailibility of about 78% if pinned in glutes)... takes it back to 46mg in 6 days... 

You really want that every 6 days (or less)...... Therefore pinning every 6th day would be required, I don't believe the doctor will be prepared to do that, unless you insist you will pin yourself... 

I would be interested to know what your doctor decides..???

 

Well this is just the beginning Troll I will manipulate his arse as much as I can to get where I want to be and thats in the higher ranges for my age. To be honest I thought the doctors would get the script but I have to go to the chemist and get it then make an appointment to see the nurse for the injection I reckon I could persuade him to let me do them and also I know he will need to up the dose. He wants bloods done the before the second injection and i am sure they will be the same test level as now so I will just say to him at that point that perhaps it should be more often.

We will see its early days though.

I think he is thinking 200mg every 14 days I am sure I can get him to do 100mg every 7 days after a bit of time especially if i still have low test after the 14 days

I'm sorry but I'm going to be unusually blunt here towards your Doctor.. With the amount of available research now available on Steroid esters, their half-lifes, and bioavailibility of injection sites.... If he still insists on once every 14 days he's a fucking idiot..!! And he will potentially put you at risk of an unnecessary hormonal fluctuations, which will negatively effect the amount of aromatization to E2 post-injection.. plus DHT via 5-alpha reductase..

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Wierd also as the script says 2 vials by my calculations it should be 1 vial at 200mg per injection with 4 repeats seems a small error here that may be in my favour, still unsure as to how often I will have it though I will find this out tomorrow.

Cypionate half-lifes at about 6 days, so injections ideally should be every 6 days or less..!!

100mg of compound = 65.8mg of testosterone... Not 100mg..!! 

So in 6 days you should receive about half, 32mg.. kinda f*ck-all..!! The compounded half-lifes should bump it up to about 59mg after 4 half-lifes... (less bioavailibility of about 78% if pinned in glutes)... takes it back to 46mg in 6 days... 

You really want that every 6 days (or less)...... Therefore pinning every 6th day would be required, I don't believe the doctor will be prepared to do that, unless you insist you will pin yourself... 

I would be interested to know what your doctor decides..???

 

Well this is just the beginning Troll I will manipulate his arse as much as I can to get where I want to be and thats in the higher ranges for my age. To be honest I thought the doctors would get the script but I have to go to the chemist and get it then make an appointment to see the nurse for the injection I reckon I could persuade him to let me do them and also I know he will need to up the dose. He wants bloods done the before the second injection and i am sure they will be the same test level as now so I will just say to him at that point that perhaps it should be more often.

We will see its early days though.

I think he is thinking 200mg every 14 days I am sure I can get him to do 100mg every 7 days after a bit of time especially if i still have low test after the 14 days

I'm sorry but I'm going to be unusually blunt here towards your Doctor.. With the amount of available research now available on Steroid esters, their half-lifes, and bioavailibility of injection sites.... If he still insists on once every 14 days he's a fucking idiot..!! And he will potentially put you at risk of an unnecessary hormonal fluctuations, which will negatively effect the amount of aromatization to E2 post-injection.. plus DHT via 5-alpha reductase..

Troll I agree with you but it's the first injection and I am educating him slowly. He is also waiting on a reply from the Drug Administration place so hopefully that will help. It seems it's new to most doctors. 

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i wouldnt have thought the dose was high enough to cause any real issues...you would get bigger fluctuations (absolute not relative obviously) pinning test e e2d at moderate doses e.g. 1000mg per week

Hmmm 1000mg e2d would cause sides like an extra set of testicles forming at the bottom of each earlobe. 

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i wouldnt have thought the dose was high enough to cause any real issues...you would get bigger fluctuations (absolute not relative obviously) pinning test e e2d at moderate doses e.g. 1000mg per week

Hmmm 1000mg e2d would cause sides like an extra set of testicles forming at the bottom of each earlobe. 

i wrote 1000mg per week injected every 2 days. i.e ~280mg per shot

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Well I think the doc or someone has fucked up just grabbed the script and got 2 10ml bottles with 4 repeats before May 27th I think it's 4 repeats of the 2 vials. Considering he is thinking every 3 weeks 200mg which I will change as soon as I can to 2 weeks and then try for 100mg every week that's my aim anyway it seems between now and May the 27th I will have a lot left as the script with repeats looks to be a total of 10 x 10ml vials before the 27th May lol

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i wouldnt have thought the dose was high enough to cause any real issues...you would get bigger fluctuations (absolute not relative obviously) pinning test e e2d at moderate doses e.g. 1000mg per week

Hmmm 1000mg e2d would cause sides like an extra set of testicles forming at the bottom of each earlobe. 

i wrote 1000mg per week injected every 2 days. i.e ~280mg per shot

Ah sorry Azide didn't read it correctly :) anyway the first injection is done 200mg depo test so let's see how this works out. I know it won't be good every 3 weeks but I will get it changed soon enough. 

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i wouldnt have thought the dose was high enough to cause any real issues...you would get bigger fluctuations (absolute not relative obviously) pinning test e e2d at moderate doses e.g. 1000mg per week

Hmmm 1000mg e2d would cause sides like an extra set of testicles forming at the bottom of each earlobe. 

i wrote 1000mg per week injected every 2 days. i.e ~280mg per shot

Ah sorry Azide didn't read it correctly Smile anyway the first injection is done 200mg depo test so let's see how this works out. I know it won't be good every 3 weeks but I will get it changed soon enough. 

Did you not explain to him what everyone on here has been saying.. Once every three weeks is wrong..????

 

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Yes Troll but he wants to see bloods just before 3 weeks he won't budge yet he just won't but he has prescribed a shit load of gear Smile

 

Test levels will be low again.... ??

How much is a single vial pharma Test..?

I know they will be low again I will sort it as we go. I paid $5 for my script of 2 vials 

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Ok so last Wednesday the 26/02 I had my first injection, now I must admit by Friday I was a lot more focused, labido was up a hell of a lot and I have a lot more energy. i know this will be short lived as the injection protocol is not right yet but either way i do feel a lot more energetic in everything so all good at the moment.

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I just caught up with this topic now. Good to hear things are progressing for you, Silverfern.

Thanks very much though I am a bit flat now as the injection was two and a half weeks ago this I knew though would happen. Have bloods to be done on Monday and another injection on Wednesday I will try to get the doc to change regime to 2 weeks next week. Also have another 20ml of test to collect from the pharmacy on Monday lol he prescribed 100ml instead of 10ml what a great guy :)

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