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Post cycle tren recovery? and is eq worth it?


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Sup guys, just wanted some feedback on those of you who have run tren and how the recovery post cycle went in regares to libido, mood and overall how much harder the recovery was comapred to say just test e. 

One other question id like to ask is for those of you who have run eq have you found it worthwhile? ive been researching the compound and ive been seeing people having mixed opinions of regards to the compound so in your opinion would it be worthwhile to add the compound to a bulk cycle? if so what dose and duration is recommened.

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Sup guys, just wanted some feedback on those of you who have run tren and how the recovery post cycle went in regares to libido, mood and overall how much harder the recovery was comapred to say just test e. 

One other question id like to ask is for those of you who have run eq have you found it worthwhile? ive been researching the compound and ive been seeing people having mixed opinions of regards to the compound so in your opinion would it be worthwhile to add the compound to a bulk cycle? if so what dose and duration is recommened.

cheers

Too many people get their ratios wrong on both Tren + Test and Boldenone + Test

Therefore you hear of complaints of high side effects (with Tren) and poor gains (especially with Boldenone)..... With Tren as with Nandrolone sides can vary considerably between individuals, some report few if any sides, for other people best advice would be change compounds..

Boldenone 600-800/week Test 250mg/week to account for the lower binding affinity at AR of Boldenone... Important pin twice per week... for more stable blood concentrations due to its longer half-life...

Remember when dosing Boldenone amount of compound needs to be higher because the actual hormone per 100mg = 59.5%  As opposed to Prop 78.8% Enanthate 67.8%......

800mg = 476mg Boldenone............ You can see why 400mg Boldenone + 500mg Test doesnt show up too well and takes ages to produce minimal results, as its only 238mg trying to compete with higher amount of Test at AR, whilst having a lower binding affinity than Test....

 

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Boldenone 600-800/week Test 250mg/week to account for the lower binding affinity at AR of Boldenone... Important pin twice per week... for more stable blood concentrations due to its longer half-life...

Remember when dosing Boldenone amount of compound needs to be higher because the actual hormone per 100mg = 59.5%  As opposed to Prop 78.8% Enanthate 67.8%......

 

 

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atrollappears wrote

Boldenone 600-800/week Test 250mg/week to account for the lower binding affinity at AR of Boldenone... Important pin twice per week... for more stable blood concentrations due to its longer half-life...

Remember when dosing Boldenone amount of compound needs to be higher because the actual hormone per 100mg = 59.5%  As opposed to Prop 78.8% Enanthate 67.8%......

 

 

Interesting, I didnt realise the actual hormone was that low with boldenone..

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Yea this is the kind on info forums don't bring up. Might grab a few extra vials and up the eq on my next cycle i think

its kind of irrelevant isnt it? like if people say 500mg of test is a good amount and theyre talking about test e then its unnecessary to calculate that its actually more like 350mg of hormone and decide to pin 700mg instead. not like most people talk in terms of hormone weights

 

understand how this is more relevant when comparing esters of the same hormone but when comparing 2 different compounds like test and eq it just seems irrelevant

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Yea this is the kind on info forums don't bring up. Might grab a few extra vials and up the eq on my next cycle i think

its kind of irrelevant isnt it? like if people say 500mg of test is a good amount and theyre talking about test e then its unnecessary to calculate that its actually more like 350mg of hormone and decide to pin 700mg instead. not like most people talk in terms of hormone weights

 

understand how this is more relevant when comparing esters of the same hormone but when comparing 2 different compounds like test and eq it just seems irrelevant

It kind of is relevant in the context of what I was trying to explain...

IE: Why most people state they don't get reasonable gains from Boldenone, and what they do take ages to be noticed..

If you bear in mind the stronger binding affinity of Test over Boldenone, then look at how little Boldenone hormone you are actually injecting... Or compared to the amount of Testosterone, then science tells us it is relevant, as the dose of Boldenone ideally needs to be much higher...!!

 

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Yea this is the kind on info forums don't bring up. Might grab a few extra vials and up the eq on my next cycle i think

its kind of irrelevant isnt it? like if people say 500mg of test is a good amount and theyre talking about test e then its unnecessary to calculate that its actually more like 350mg of hormone and decide to pin 700mg instead. not like most people talk in terms of hormone weights

 

understand how this is more relevant when comparing esters of the same hormone but when comparing 2 different compounds like test and eq it just seems irrelevant

It kind of is relevant in the context of what I was trying to explain...

IE: Why most people state they don't get reasonable gains from Boldenone, and what they do take ages to be noticed..

If you bear in mind the stronger binding affinity of Test over Boldenone, then look at how little Boldenone hormone you are actually injecting... Or compared to the amount of Testosterone, then science tells us it is relevant, as the dose of Boldenone ideally needs to be much higher...!!

 

oh yep, understand what you mean now. you said something similar about tren right? test has a stronger binding affinity thus when using test and tren you should do lower test higer tren. correct? 

im interested to try but also keen to hear what sides people get on this ratio before i do.. as tom among others has posted that he got bad sides on lower test higher tren

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its kind of irrelevant isnt it? like if people say 500mg of test is a good amount and theyre talking about test e then its unnecessary to calculate that its actually more like 350mg of hormone and decide to pin 700mg instead. not like most people talk in terms of hormone weights

 

understand how this is more relevant when comparing esters of the same hormone but when comparing 2 different compounds like test and eq it just seems irrelevant

It kind of is relevant in the context of what I was trying to explain...

IE: Why most people state they don't get reasonable gains from Boldenone, and what they do take ages to be noticed..

If you bear in mind the stronger binding affinity of Test over Boldenone, then look at how little Boldenone hormone you are actually injecting... Or compared to the amount of Testosterone, then science tells us it is relevant, as the dose of Boldenone ideally needs to be much higher...!!

 

oh yep, understand what you mean now. you said something similar about tren right? test has a stronger binding affinity thus when using test and tren you should do lower test higer tren. correct? 

im interested to try but also keen to hear what sides people get on this ratio before i do.. as tom among others has posted that he got bad sides on lower test higher tren

Its the opposite with Test-Tren...... Tren has the greater binding affinity so in theory Test takes 2nd place as far as binding AR... Therefore there is more Test in the blood for longer unable to bind AR, aromatizing to E2 and DHT via 5-alpha reductase.... Its recommended to lower Test to TRT doses to avoid unecessary sides, & potentially wasting money..!!

Hope this helps..!!

 

 

 

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ive said it before ive run both low test/high tren and equal test/tren ratio , the only different sides i got - muscles were fuller on more test , weight gain was easier (probably more water) and libido was better.  the usual tren sides go away for me after a couple weeks.

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ive said it before ive run both low test/high tren and equal test/tren ratio , the only different sides i got - muscles were fuller on more test , weight gain was easier (probably more water) and libido was better.  the usual tren sides go away for me after a couple weeks.

You seem to find side effects are person dependant.. Some people report side effects others don't seem to be effected by the same compounds.. 19-nors like Tren and Nandrolone seem side effect prone more than most.. I know some people just can't handle Nandrolone sides, and the best course of action is for them to stay away from Nandrolone full stop.. Same with any compound if it doesn't agree with you lower the dose or select another..

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I was 250test/345 tren and was sweet with almost no sides, low doses tho

Notice good gains with these dosages? how long did you run for? Also how much ED or EOD were you pinning Tren?

It was a cutting cycle, and went well. Was pinning 100mg/eod (1ml), so 350mg/week. Ran for about 12weeks

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