Thoughts on Cutting Cycle..

[StussyNz]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to know from some of you more expeirenced AAS users what are your thoughts on the cutting cycle below:

Weeks 1-12 - Test-e at 250mcg pw

Weeks 1-12 - Clen - Ran 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off

Weeks 8-12 - Winstrol at 50mcg ed

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

[rapz]

250mg test and 50mg winny u mean? Lol

looks ok, how many cycles u done? Whats your stats and training history?

 

Most compounds are good for cutting and bulking, mostly diet dependant, some will have better cosmetic effects i.e winny drying out ability.

you got pct sorted or you blast/cruise?

you could even run winny for 6 weeks if u wanted to, i had sucky dry joints on it.

[AZIDE]

shouldnt you try gain some muscle before you cut?

[StussyNz]

f*ck; Yeah excuse the mistake. (MG).

Relatively new to AAS scence; Currently running the standard 600mg Test-E 15 week Cycle; Putting on some great mass.

PCT would be in the the standard 4 weeks Nolva 2 weeks after the last Test pin.

Yeah i've seen a lot of talk about winny fucking up peoples joints; was thinking about supplement with extra Omegas and Glutamine to hopefully help with the sides.

What would you recommend for a relatively new AAS user as a "Cutting Cycle" Rapz?

Thinking about jumping on a Test-E; Tren-a cycle next time round.

 

[StussyNz]

shouldnt you try gain some muscle before you cut?

I'm currently sitting at 100kg; 6ft 1 around 13-15% Bf..

[AZIDE]

 

[StussyNz]

 

oh gotcha. was just going of pics you posted couple months ago, looks like youve made good progress since then. should chuck up some pics

[AZIDE]

 

 

oh gotcha. was just going of pics you posted couple months ago, looks like youve made good progress since then. should chuck up some pics

Yeah those were taken what 3 months ago now; Been bulking since. Just looking at jumping on my first cutting cycle at the end of this year; Will bulk through until then..

[atrollappears]

f*ck; Yeah excuse the mistake. (MG).

Relatively new to AAS scence; Currently running the standard 600mg Test-E 15 week Cycle; Putting on some great mass.

PCT would be in the the standard 4 weeks Nolva 2 weeks after the last Test pin.

Yeah i've seen a lot of talk about winny fucking up peoples joints; was thinking about supplement with extra Omegas and Glutamine to hopefully help with the sides.

What would you recommend for a relatively new AAS user as a "Cutting Cycle" Rapz?

Thinking about jumping on a Test-E; Tren-a cycle next time round.

 

Winstrol reduces the integrity of connective tissue, Omegas & Glutamine won't help you (do you mean Glucosamine)..? Won't help you either.. !! Unless your a Tested Athlete or a serious Body-Builder on a pre-comp cut.. Stay away..!!

Anavar (if legit) can strengthen connective tissue considerably and improve collagen synthesis.. 40-50mg/day.... 

A Better Cycle might be Low-Test, Tren, Masteron.. Keep Test low for less E' sides when combined with Tren... Masteron can reduce the estrogenic/progesterone sides associated with Tren.... When combined with Test Masteron will assist muscle and strength gains faster with less bloat, stacked with Tren will burn body fat faster... Ideal for pre-contest hardness, dropping sub-cutaneous water and intra-muscular water, gives muscle density and hardness, brings out vascularity... 

For a first time user don't go mad with the Tren (if legit) 50mg/day should be sufficient, keep Test low 250mg to reduce sides from aromatised Test converting to Estrogen causing issues like Tren gyno.. Mast: 200mg should negate sides from E2/Progesterone...

[StussyNz]

f*ck; Yeah excuse the mistake. (MG).

Relatively new to AAS scence; Currently running the standard 600mg Test-E 15 week Cycle; Putting on some great mass.

PCT would be in the the standard 4 weeks Nolva 2 weeks after the last Test pin.

Yeah i've seen a lot of talk about winny fucking up peoples joints; was thinking about supplement with extra Omegas and Glutamine to hopefully help with the sides.

What would you recommend for a relatively new AAS user as a "Cutting Cycle" Rapz?

Thinking about jumping on a Test-E; Tren-a cycle next time round.

 

Winstrol reduces the integrity of connective tissue, Omegas & Glutamine won't help you (do you mean Glucosamine)..? Won't help you either.. !! Unless your a Tested Athlete or a serious Body-Builder on a pre-comp cut.. Stay away..!!

Anavar (if legit) can strengthen connective tissue considerably and improve collagen synthesis.. 40-50mg/day.... 

A Better Cycle might be Low-Test, Tren, Masteron.. Keep Test low for less E' sides when combined with Tren... Masteron can reduce the estrogenic/progesterone sides associated with Tren.... When combined with Test Masteron will assist muscle and strength gains faster with less bloat, stacked with Tren will burn body fat faster... Ideal for pre-contest hardness, dropping sub-cutaneous water and intra-muscular water, gives muscle density and hardness, brings out vascularity... 

For a first time user don't go mad with the Tren (if legit) 50mg/day should be sufficient, keep Test low 250mg to reduce sides from aromatised Test converting to Estrogen causing issues like Tren gyno.. Mast: 200mg should negate sides from E2/Progesterone...

So you are recommending:

250mg Test-E p/w

50mg Tren-A ED (350mg P/W)

200mg Mast p/w

What are peoples thoughts on pinning Tren-A on a daily basis? Could you pin every other day and just pint 100mg EOD?

[rapz]

Yes eod will be fine, i would up the masteron to 350, but thats just me, like troll said winny is shit unless comp preppin, var would be a f*ck ton better just harder to get legit var.

also there is no real "cutting drugs" imo, diet will dictate that, aas will help maintain lbm while in deficit thats all, have a read of leeroids log, im sure he prepped on 500 test and a bit of winny, nothing crazy.

[StussyNz]

Yes eod will be fine, i would up the masteron to 350, but thats just me, like troll said winny is shit unless comp preppin, var would be a f*ck ton better just harder to get legit var.

also there is no real "cutting drugs" imo, diet will dictate that, aas will help maintain lbm while in deficit thats all, have a read of leeroids log, im sure he prepped on 500 test and a bit of winny, nothing crazy.

Cheers; Yeah was thinking about just Running Clen/Low Test...

Defo looking like i'm going to try and stay away from the Winny, reading a few articles online and it deffinately looks to cause a lot of joint pain for users.

[Leeroid]

Yeah I used 500mgs test e from 15 weeks out until show day. Did 50mgs Winny a day 20 days out. Dunno if it was legit though cos I didn't noticeably harden up nor did I have any joint pain. And yes, I would've noticed if I had joint pain cos I kept training heavy, the very week after my bodybuilding comp I did a powerlifting comp lol and still did some decent numbers

[ngapuhi strong]

Yeah I used 500mgs test e from 15 weeks out until show day. Did 50mgs Winny a day 20 days out. Dunno if it was legit though cos I didn't noticeably harden up nor did I have any joint pain. And yes, I would've noticed if I had joint pain cos I kept training heavy, the very week after my bodybuilding comp I did a powerlifting comp lol and still did some decent numbers

what would you recomend for a cutting cycle?

[Leeroid]

 

Yeah I used 500mgs test e from 15 weeks out until show day. Did 50mgs Winny a day 20 days out. Dunno if it was legit though cos I didn't noticeably harden up nor did I have any joint pain. And yes, I would've noticed if I had joint pain cos I kept training heavy, the very week after my bodybuilding comp I did a powerlifting comp lol and still did some decent numbers

what would you recomend for a cutting cycle?

Ripped Freak

 

LOL seriously though, there is no such thing as a "cutting cycle". Anything anabolic will do to keep your muscle mass and prevent it from going into a catabolic state. Water retention is over-hyped, it's just fat cunts blaming their poor diet and lazy asses on "holding water".

[maccaz]

 

Yeah I used 500mgs test e from 15 weeks out until show day. Did 50mgs Winny a day 20 days out. Dunno if it was legit though cos I didn't noticeably harden up nor did I have any joint pain. And yes, I would've noticed if I had joint pain cos I kept training heavy, the very week after my bodybuilding comp I did a powerlifting comp lol and still did some decent numbers

what would you recomend for a cutting cycle?

Ripped Freak

 

LOL seriously though, there is no such thing as a "cutting cycle". Anything anabolic will do to keep your muscle mass and prevent it from going into a catabolic state. Water retention is over-hyped, it's just fat cunts blaming their poor diet and lazy asses on "holding water".

 

on a lot of overseas boards etc people claim tren is the best "cutting" drug in terms of fat burning effect, nutrient partitioning or something. (i dont read much) broscience or?

 

[Leeroid]

on a lot of overseas boards etc people claim tren is the best "cutting" drug in terms of fat burning effect, nutrient partitioning or something. (i dont read much) broscience or?

 

Technically, trenbolone (or any steroid for that matter) doesn't have any fat burning effects. But, anything that increases your anabolic capacity does affect fat loss indirectly as the calories that would've been stored as fat gets used to either build muscle or fuel the extra muscle that's been built. And trenbolone is probably the strongest drug mg for mg in terms of building muscle.

 

Not sure if a lot of people actually know what nutrient partitioning means. They seem to think it means that you can eat more without getting fat but it actually refers to the body's ability to make more use of what you eat. Finaplix (Veterinary tren in pellet form) increases nutrient partitioning in cattle, which means that farmers are able to increase yield (lean beef) from each cow without a corresponding increase in feed for the cow. So it actually sort of means the opposite of what most people think it does

 

 

[maccaz]

 

on a lot of overseas boards etc people claim tren is the best "cutting" drug in terms of fat burning effect, nutrient partitioning or something. (i dont read much) broscience or?

 

Technically, trenbolone (or any steroid for that matter) doesn't have any fat burning effects. But, anything that increases your anabolic capacity does affect fat loss indirectly as the calories that would've been stored as fat gets used to either build muscle or fuel the extra muscle that's been built. And trenbolone is probably the strongest drug mg for mg in terms of building muscle.

 

Not sure if a lot of people actually know what nutrient partitioning means. They seem to think it means that you can eat more without getting fat but it actually refers to the body's ability to make more use of what you eat. Finaplix (Veterinary tren in pellet form) increases nutrient partitioning in cattle, which means that farmers are able to increase yield (lean beef) from each cow without a corresponding increase in feed for the cow. So it actually sort of means the opposite of what most people think it does

 

 

cheers, good info.