Cycle cost

[Silverfern]

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Ah this is new to me a men's clinic I just tried the GP knowing that at best I would get probably very little. I am not sure what I would say to the dodgy guy in the men's clinic I will research this method I think and see. 

 

As  for my stuff it's to late it's ordered and it's from a friend of mine that I know well though I also know no matter who you are he charges for the stuff but I also know he only gets legit stuff and that he will send it. As I said earlier in my post I think it's certainly 50/50 at best to get it past customs and medsafe so maybe I will do my money this time shame really but life. Thanks for the men's clinic info I will look into this as I said but I feel sure that the stuff they will give will be in very small amounts. 

[atrollappears]

A mens health clinic will most likely want to pin once every 2 weeks 100mg.. The dose if fine for TRT but the injection protocol will create peaks and troughs in blood levels.. Once per half-life minimum is recommended, twice per half-life would be ideal... 

[Silverfern]

A mens health clinic will most likely want to pin once every 2 weeks 100mg.. The dose if fine for TRT but the injection protocol will create peaks and troughs in blood levels.. Once per half-life minimum is recommended, twice per half-life would be ideal... 

Thank you for that I would have guessed from what I have read that I wouldn't be able to get any where near what I am wanting. I will follow the road I am on for now and see where it takes me and reevaluate my situation if needed in the future. 

[Realtalk]

U can get as much as u want just cost u small fortune 

[Silverfern]

U can get as much as u want just cost u small fortune 

I can't see me traipsing round the clinics making multiple appointments and getting sweet FA lol while I try and find a dodgy one I am sure they are out there but I am not sure I could just bowl up and ask. Mind it would be quite amusing. 

[Ketogains]

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Medsafe are only there to protect the interests of big pharma in this country they will let the mens clinics sell you the "legit"  products because the right people are making profit. they just dont want you bypassing their little captive market and selling the generic products from whereever.

in a truely free society i should have the right to  tweak my own hormone levels for quality of life improvements. i should have the freedome to weigh the risks myself and take whatever consequenses or not on the chin. f*ck medsafe and bullshit laws. thats all...

[Silverfern]

 

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Medsafe are only there to protect the interests of big pharma in this country they will let the mens clinics sell you the "legit"  products because the right people are making profit. they just dont want you bypassing their little captive market and selling the generic products from whereever.

in a truely free society i should have the right to  tweak my own hormone levels for quality of life improvements. i should have the freedome to weigh the risks myself and take whatever consequenses or not on the chin. f*ck medsafe and bullshit laws. thats all...

100% agree with that though the trouble is you end up with people who become abusers of perscription or illicit drugs and end up stretching an already stretched medical and welfare system so I see points for both to be fair. 

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

 

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Medsafe are only there to protect the interests of big pharma in this country they will let the mens clinics sell you the "legit"  products because the right people are making profit. they just dont want you bypassing their little captive market and selling the generic products from whereever.

in a truely free society i should have the right to  tweak my own hormone levels for quality of life improvements. i should have the freedome to weigh the risks myself and take whatever consequenses or not on the chin. f*ck medsafe and bullshit laws. thats all...

100% agree with that though the trouble is you end up with people who become abusers of perscription or illicit drugs and end up stretching an already stretched medical and welfare system so I see points for both to be fair. 

only a snitch would say someting like that! now wheres my pitchfork

[atrollappears]

 

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Medsafe are only there to protect the interests of big pharma in this country they will let the mens clinics sell you the "legit"  products because the right people are making profit. they just dont want you bypassing their little captive market and selling the generic products from whereever.

in a truely free society i should have the right to  tweak my own hormone levels for quality of life improvements. i should have the freedome to weigh the risks myself and take whatever consequenses or not on the chin. f*ck medsafe and bullshit laws. thats all...

100% agree with that though the trouble is you end up with people who become abusers of perscription or illicit drugs and end up stretching an already stretched medical and welfare system so I see points for both to be fair. 

I agree, its always the idiots that spoil it for everybody else... Unfortunately there are too many idiots...

 

[Silverfern]

 

Ok ok well you're getting ripped off paying that online the main issue being that you can't even guarantee it'll get through.

If you don't mind paying that kinda money and want legit stuff go to a men's clinic. You'll pay about the same and get it in your hand as soon as you pay.

mens clinics are mostly illegal prescription drug dealers. Medsafe should go after them and certain doctors, they the ones making the most money and abusing their positions. Not people importing a little bit of Clen and arimidex.

Medsafe are only there to protect the interests of big pharma in this country they will let the mens clinics sell you the "legit"  products because the right people are making profit. they just dont want you bypassing their little captive market and selling the generic products from whereever.

in a truely free society i should have the right to  tweak my own hormone levels for quality of life improvements. i should have the freedome to weigh the risks myself and take whatever consequenses or not on the chin. f*ck medsafe and bullshit laws. thats all...

100% agree with that though the trouble is you end up with people who become abusers of perscription or illicit drugs and end up stretching an already stretched medical and welfare system so I see points for both to be fair. 

only a snitch would say someting like that! now wheres my pitchfork

Snitch my arse that's the way it is a few ruin it for all unfortunatly 

[Ketogains]

yeah thats the line people wheel out but i could and so many more people do abuse common shit like takeaway food - sugary drinks - alcohol and its costing everyone a fortune.

if anything it would be Better to have them legaly available but under a doctors supervision - that way there would be less broscience fl;oating about - even teh irresponsable people would get some monitoring of bloods etc - if anythign ti would be a good move just for harm reduction, the geqar would be legit pharma grade and sterile (except you'd be paying top dollar) 

harm reduction is a far better policy than criminalisation of users who are not hurting anyone else.

 

 

[rapz]

yeah thats the line people wheel out but i could and so many more people do abuse common shit like takeaway food - sugary drinks - alcohol and its costing everyone a fortune.

if anything it would be Better to have them legaly available but under a doctors supervision - that way there would be less broscience fl;oating about - even teh irresponsable people would get some monitoring of bloods etc - if anythign ti would be a good move just for harm reduction, the geqar would be legit pharma grade and sterile (except you'd be paying top dollar) 

harm reduction is a far better policy than criminalisation of users who are not hurting anyone else.

 

 

it probably is possible....

best bet would be , go into a mens clinic , be upfront about gear use... tell them you care about your health and would like a doctor to monitor health markers etc ,  explain you use underground gear or whatever and dont know the quality or sterility of product and what it be more beneficial to use phama grade.  

the worse you will get is a no and told to gtfo...

cant hurt to try, just gotta be willing to pay the pingas that they charge for pharma.

[Leeroid]

Lol u guys are dreaming. If anything, steroid laws are only gonna get tougher and tougher. Australia just increased the maximum penalty for possession of steroids from 2 years to 25 years. No politician in his right mind is ever going to support a bill for making steroids legal, it would literally be political suicide, which would not be so bad if it even had a slim possibility of even being considered. Not to mention that all he would gain is the support of a very small minority who are not very influential that don't even vote anyway. People that use steroids are more likely to be narcissistic, violent and have mental disorders. Whether thats a result of steroid use or people in those categories are more likely to use steroids is debatable, but either way it's not gonna help the argument for legalising steroids

[Ketogains]

you will never get vials or amps in through mail any international freight company that uses nzpost as their agent in nz - pills in blister packs are iffy too.

i have some theory based on nothing that nzpost has somekind of xray image recognition.

[Realtalk]

you will never get vials or amps in through mail any international freight company that uses nzpost as their agent in nz - pills in blister packs are iffy too.

i have some theory based on nothing that nzpost has somekind of xray image recognition.

I believe you... Lol

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

you will never get vials or amps in through mail any international freight company that uses nzpost as their agent in nz - pills in blister packs are iffy too.

i have some theory based on nothing that nzpost has somekind of xray image recognition.

doesnt all air mail have to pass through customs regardless of which company is used? yes they have this kind of scanning technology been around for ages, check out border control

[Ketogains]

you will never get vials or amps in through mail any international freight company that uses nzpost as their agent in nz - pills in blister packs are iffy too.

i have some theory based on nothing that nzpost has somekind of xray image recognition.

doesnt all air mail have to pass through customs regardless of which company is used? yes they have this kind of scanning technology been around for ages, check out border control

Not sure mate - the wife works for a prominent international courier company - the stuff comes on on their own planes. part of her job is to obtain customs clearance. i have never heard her talk about scanning equipment at all. usually any alerts would be because the contents fit a profile. for example on the last customs training they did they mentioned soft toys being the thing to look out for, aparently a lot of stuff comes in inside the ol plushies. most of the costoms infringments she comes across however are GST declaration issues where they will look at the bill of lading and then the weight of package and finally the indicated cost.

They have regular visits from MAF and from time to time and i have seen  them  with the beagles entering the facility - this is only what i notice when droping wife off and picking up.

I dont think the dogs are trained to detect hormones else every overly endowed man would have a dog sniffing his balls at the airport - jsut a personal theory though...

[Silverfern]

Lol Ketogains that's funny I could imagine the dogs sniffing at every crutch that goes past fucking take ages to clear customs as all males would need searching. 

 

Anyway they can't and don't X-ray everything or it would take months to get anything it's random I think they just pick stuff randomly to check as if this was not the case I would not have got my stuff  I would have just got a letter. 

Everything international passes through customs but not everything is checked. 

[mrgeeky]

Silverfern, how did you get on.. Did you ever get them through?? Just curious..

[HarryB]

This is very confusing... so is he getting good quality cheap gear or not? Should he use Hcg or not? Jesus Christ... enquiring minds want to know!!!!