High fat diets for weight loss

[Ben0]

Have been reading a lot lately about high fat diets for weight loss. By high fat I'm talking (for example) 110-140g of fat a day on a 2000cal diet.(Good fats of course)

The main factor been the higher fat intake incourging the body to use fat as a fuel source..I'm not so convinced on this and would keep my fats to 35-40g a day .maybe 50g once day a week. Running fats that high would use up over half of your energy for that day - leaving you feel depleated and just shit in general?

lBut interested to hear everyones thoughts

[Dinahlady]

40g fats is quite low imo - and 2000 cal sounds low too.

Best fat loss diet means you eat as much as possible whilst losing bodyfat or weight. Jumping to something different or extreme isnt optimal in my opinion.

Imo just start wherever your nutrition is at right now (what are your current macros?) and work on tweaking them slowly first. 

 

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

i eat higher fats for my size/caloric intake and doesn't seem to have been a problem. have been steadily gaining muscle and losing fat. mainly just do higher fat diet now because better on the joints but can't comment on whether it's done much for mobilizing fat cells, more important factor there would still be total caloric intake imo

[Ben0]

2000cals is not my intake, just an example. My current spilt would be around 40p/40c/20f (%)

Have just been reading a lot about there 50%+ fat diets and wondering if anyone had experimented with anything like that..like I said I would think you would end up feeling pretty depleted/shit on that level of fat

[Leeroid]

Main reason you would feel shit is because the high fat content wouldn't leave much, if any room for carbs. Can't comment as I haven't tried this kind of diet nor do I know anyone that has

[jimmybro1]

2000cals is not my intake, just an example. My current spilt would be around 40p/40c/20f (%)

Have just been reading a lot about there 50%+ fat diets and wondering if anyone had experimented with anything like that..like I said I would think you would end up feeling pretty depleted/shit on that level of fat

I have done a 40p/20c/50f split before was alright only did it for 4 weeks working into a show. It was the leanest I have ever been. Tried a high carbohydrate approachs for nationals 35p/50c/15f and didn't get as lean and calories were lower than the pior show I dieting for and I added cardio to the mix. I'm not sure if its because I have damaged my metabolism or if my body was under to much stress. 

On the high fat diet I had a lot more energy than I did on the high carb diet was on 2,800-2,700 calories towards the end of prep as opposed to 2,500 calories on the high carb diet which may have been the reason I had more energy... I felt a lot fuller (stomach) on the high fat diet but it was hard to fit a lot of things into my diet was a lot of nuts and fatty fish which was pretty boring. Whereas the high carbohydrate appoarch had a few more options but foods couldn't have a lot of fat in them so a lot of rice etc. 

Next time I diet I will take a different approach and try use moderate levels of both fat and carbohydrates 35p/35c/30f. 

But from my experience which is pretty limited IMO a higher fat approach was better. I have some pictures of comparison. I also think protein was way to high I was eating 300+ grams a day for a stage weight of 85kg. Next time would go above 240grams. 

Left High Fat diet - Right High Carb diet 

 

[Matt84]

Interesting, I've been reading a lot about the paleo diet after a friend of mine had amazing results and he more or less cut out carbs, except for sweet potato and ate a lot fo fat. Good fats though. I need to look into this more though.

[danellaj]

I prefer to eat high fat, low carb. I feel better emotionally. I have more energy, I can workout harder. 

 

I think for everybody its trial and error to see what works for you. it doesnt hurt to try things and see how your body responds to it. Take photos so you can keep track and keep a food diary, then you have a good comparison to how you are really doing. 

[Ben0]

I have been using a 40p/35c/25f spilt the last few weeks with awesome results, more energy and good fat loss. Might give a 35p/35c/30f spilt a go. Any higher on the fats and I think the diet would be too boring to be sustainable over a long period, jimmy is right about food choices been a lot more limited when you drop the carbs, peanut butter seems to be the quick easy way of getting the fat up

[Ketogains]

Are you talking about a ketogenic diet? if so yes you will lose weight - there is also some evidence that suggests that you will also maintain lean muscle mass while losing weight on this sort of diet

i did it for 6 months and lost about 18kilos - most of the time limited my daily carb intake to 35g

takes some time to become attuned and break through the fuzzybrain fog and lethargic crap but once properly ketogenic you'll be sharp as a tack. if you are doing weights might want to do the carb cycling variation 

 

heres a resource to give more information on that and save me a lot of typing - the guy has linked a lot of studies and sources for his conclusions too

 

http://josepharcita.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html

[santiago]

^^^ strong user name to information correlation. 

More on Ketogenic diet from Layne:

Ketogenic dieting refers to reducing carbohydrate intake to practically nothing, while simultaneously raising fat and protein intake. With little glucose for the brain to utilize for energy, the body will begin producing ketones. Ketones are by-products of fat oxidation and the brain can use ketones for energy. This does indeed have a potent fat burning effect, as insulin levels will be severely reduced due to lack of carbohydrate intake. Low insulin levels correlate with high rates of fat oxidation. Indeed, the ketogenic diet may be the single best way to lose the maximum amount of body fat in the shortest amount of time.

However, maintaining muscle is number one, with fat loss second. If one has not properly scheduled enough time to lose body fat and they are in need of drastic measures, then using a ketogenic diet may be their only choice in order to become contest-ready in time. Unfortunately, they will not maintain an optimum amount of muscle mass.