GPC federation

[Realtalk]

Seen some bullshit on Facebook today about another powerlifting federation and some people getting mad.

so can somebody tell us about the GPC federation and what's going on? Always good to have more options for lifters as long as it's viable

[jimmybro1]

Seen some bullshit on Facebook today about another powerlifting federation and some people getting mad.

so can somebody tell us about the GPC federation and what's going on? Always good to have more options for lifters as long as it's viable

It explains it all on the GPC facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GPCNewZealand?fref=ts.

 

[Leeroid]

A 3rd fed in NZ is not viable and the pepple that created GPC were well aware of this. They created the new fed with the knowledge that if they were successful, CAPO would be dissolved. I find it disappointing that all the hard work and effort that went into the formation of CAPO is ignored and disregarded in such a blatant fashion. Now all the ground and traction that CAPO made is lost and the only one that wins from this is the NZPF.

[reddog]

from my socal media studies it looks like it going to go off!! very exciting, you just have to look at the team that has but this together and 2 of NZ's strongest lifters as President and VP with a stack of other top lifters alining with GPC NZ  + a strong support from GPC Aus which will be sending a group over to get it off the ground, also i see all the money rasied from comps/reg etc will be going back into GPC NZ so id say we will see some pretty sweet gear and comps as it builds

the whole 3 feds in now in nz maybe to exteam though as metioned, NZPF wont be hurt and will remain as NZ's top most respect fed for many year to come id say, while capo NZ may be in some strive as offers much the same system and has lost a string of its top lifters to this already, but already i see they have sprung back into action with some big annoucements and event planned for 2014 any way time will tell, personally i just love lifting and compeitng so will be lifting where ever the best comps with the best lifters are, also i think it looks like you will be able to cross fed lift between capo and gpc so will be a great way to keep you supp self stocked up lol

 

[Pseudonym]

When CAPO was created, I could understand that there were aspects of NZPF that didn't suit some people, so CAPO provided something different. Is there also a point of difference with GPC?
 

 personally i just love lifting and compeitng so will be lifting where ever the best comps with the best lifters are

Do you think it will work this way? Or will the creation of a third organisation just fragment the pool of powerlifters? Is it just cutting the pie into smaller portions?

It's an interesting question, and bodybuilding has been down this road too. I can't help wondering if bodybuilding as a sport would be better with fewer, bigger, federations.

[Realtalk]

^ every sport would be better with fewer federations, however that doesn't mean the longer established ones are better.

 

[Dinahlady]

The fb page says that people can lift in both the CAPO and GPC federations - there are no restrictions - so there are more events to choose from - isn't this good for individuals? (I have no idea)

[reddog]

 

 

 personally i just love lifting and compeitng so will be lifting where ever the best comps with the best lifters are

Do you think it will work this way? Or will the creation of a third organisation just fragment the pool of powerlifters? Is it just cutting the pie into smaller portion?

[teamfatboy]

I'm not so convinced... in a country with a population of one Australian state, can we afford three separate 'sanctioning bodies' ?  

I hate 'playing politics' but would be interested to know:

a. what needs fixing that we need a third group?

b. if things need fixing, what could not be achieved by working together, rather than competing? and

c. are these going to be 'national' groups, or just "Auckland groups" ?  Yes, I see there's a Waikato comp coming up, but what about competitions further south? 

Speaking from experience, organising a competition takes a LOT of work - a lot of planning, hard yakka beforehand, a screed of help on the day.... and that includes a cadre of trained spotter-loaders for speed and for safety.  Are there that many people around that we can spread them across three groups?

I'm all for things which advance the sport of powerlifting - I know, for instance, of a Wellington CrossFit box which ran a squat-bench-deadlift comp and applied Wilks handicapping (yet completely unsanctioned).  It exposed a lot of fit people to the sport, and that's a good thing.  From the pics I saw, the judging wasn't bad, but of course the judges weren't trained and that too is a double-edged sword.  It could backfire if someone thinks their squat or bench is legal, turns up in another comp and gets pinged on depth, feet movement or the like. 

[Realtalk]

Crossfit boxes have powerlifting comps all the time... In NZ There are probably more powerlifting competitions going on in crossfit boxes than there are powerlifting comps going on in powerlifting. So by having a 3rd federation it's gonna create more comps which can only be a win.. Bro it's not that much of an art to spot lol

[Danomyte]

I think it's good that there are more options.  If I was a beginner, it would be appealling to me that there were 3 feds to choose from as I knew I could compete in 3-times as many competitions.  I think lifters that are staunch in there feds will stay in there feds and the rest will jump around and test each fed.  

Is it a bad thing having 3 feds?  At first I thought yes, but now I think it is a good thing.  People will understand that if you aren't WADA compliant, then you can lift in Capo or GPC - simple as that.

No judging or politics about each fed - just go to a fed that will suit you, train hard and lift.

Anyways, happy new year all *drinks*

[soundsgood]

It's naive to think that everyone who would like to give power lifting a go is already competing. A third federation would not be simply diluting the pool of lifters.  

Power lifting has a reasonably small profile and participation level in new Zealand although as a sport it is highly respected. Our aim at GPC is to grow our wonderful sport and get more people competing and watching. There are plenty of gym lifters that would be very interested in testing their one rep maxes in a novice comp under certified judges rules. And many of them would be keen to continue on competing.

I personally know of 3 lifters who will be good for a 700+ total first time out but had no desire to lift in ipf comps and have had no access to a capo comp due to none being held outside of their area.. GPC will provide competitions across the country where lifters can give the sport a go in a friendly modern environment and learn more to improve their lifts.

We have a strong social media profile and lots of connections to other sports like bodybuilding and strongman - cross sport participation is highly encouraged.

GPC is a NZ federation with ties to GPC international a strong federation with world championships. All of our membership fees and meet profits stay in the country and pay for our equipment and fund our lifters to future international competitions. The board is made up of passionate lifters who are just interested in making the sport more accessible to lifters. More comps = more lifters. We are not interested in politics and will not sanction any of our members from lifting in other federations

We currently have comps planned in Auckland, Waikato and Bay of Plenty. We are looking into comps further south.

Hamish Coulter

President

GPC New Zealand

[Pseudonym]

Gidday Hamish. Thanks for posting here in your official capacity - and congrats on the launch of GPC.

I'm still not clear on what the differences are between CAPO and GPC though? I think TFB nailed what I was trying to ask. What do you say to his points?

 

...Excuse the hard questions. I try to keep Gymnation politically neutral, so I'm certainly not taking sides. I'm just trying to understand where everyone fits in, now the powerlifting landscape has changed. As with all the federations across all the sporting codes, I'm keen to support GPC as much as possible. If we can help in any way, let me know.

[Optimass]

Agree with Dan - It's not like the market for new talent is tapped out (hardly).  Those concerned about is there enough lifters seem to be assuming the sport will have little to no growth and that people will shuffle around.  CAPO hasnt penetrated south of the bombay hills let alone a national presence as such.  There is scope for more provincial competitions providing clubs in those areas get involved which means GPCs focus on the Waikato as a base may actually open up more recruitment for all 3 feds. 

More comps = more opportunity.  Both the CAPO Nz and GPC Nz team have experience enough to build good comps and as stated - as yet there are no sanctions against athletes in cross fed competition. 

Remember when CAPO first launched in NZ - everyone was crying blue murder - saying the same things.  It didn't impact on growing numbers in NZPF/APA as people were implying.  The presense of a 3rd fed wont appeal to everyone but it may appeal to athletes in similar sports that were not prepared to travel to Auckland to get involved. 

GPC have only two formats vs CAPO Nz which have 3.  Raw in GPC is with or without wraps > CAPO have Raw split to with wraps called "RAW+" and without wraps = "RAW" ... Not spliting the raw classes could mean more than one or two competitors in a grade.  Also GPC don't mix epuiped and RAW athletes totals to grade an overall.  I.E If you lift raw and an equiped lifters total is higher you are not awarded 2nd overall as the raw lifter.  The equiped and raw categories are graded and ranked seperately according to Scott Wasson (GPC Oz). 

[Wookie]

A 3rd fed in NZ is not viable and the pepple that created GPC were well aware of this. They created the new fed with the knowledge that if they were successful, CAPO would be dissolved. I find it disappointing that all the hard work and effort that went into the formation of CAPO is ignored and disregarded in such a blatant fashion. Now all the ground and traction that CAPO made is lost and the only one that wins from this is the NZPF.

3 Feds are absolutely viable. If CAPO NZ however want to wage war with GPC NZ then the smart money is on GPC come out on top. 

The obvious elephant in the room is that the GPC breakaway group would have viewed the remaining CAPO NZ board as being too difficult to work with. Which is exactly what I remember having to deal with when some split from the NZPF to form CAPO.

The sociologist in me is breaking out the popcorn.

[Leeroid]

I hope to be proven wrong. I was assuming that lifter numbers would remain static but if lifter numbers were to increase as a result of the new federation then it would be a win win situation for everyone.

[LazyPat]

Obvious question maybe.... obvious.

If I don't join any fed can I just bounce around all 3 entering their novice comps.

I'm not looking at setting any records (only my own). By entering the 3 different feds novice comps my total pool of available comps just went up.

 

[Realtalk]

Obvious question maybe.... obvious.

If I don't join any fed can I just bounce around all 3 entering their novice comps.

I'm not looking at setting any records (only my own). By entering the 3 different feds novice comps my total pool of available comps just went up.

 

You can only do one nzpf novice comp... Is that ever or annually? 

[Phedder]

Obvious question maybe.... obvious.

If I don't join any fed can I just bounce around all 3 entering their novice comps.

I'm not looking at setting any records (only my own). By entering the 3 different feds novice comps my total pool of available comps just went up.

 

You can only do one nzpf novice comp... Is that ever or annually? 

Ever. After you've done one novice NZPF comp you have to become a fully paid member and agree to the WADA code to compete in any further competitions. 

[Realtalk]

 

Obvious question maybe.... obvious.

If I don't join any fed can I just bounce around all 3 entering their novice comps.

I'm not looking at setting any records (only my own). By entering the 3 different feds novice comps my total pool of available comps just went up.

 

You can only do one nzpf novice comp... Is that ever or annually? 

Ever. After you've done one novice NZPF comp you have to become a fully paid member and agree to the WADA code to compete in any further competitions. 

Ok. So we won't be going to that one in March then lol

[LazyPat]

Thanks for addressing that phed.

What about CAPO and GPC? Any restriction from entering each others novice contests?

Sorry for the thread hijack.

[soundsgood]

As a member of GPC you will not be sanctioned against for entering any other federation competition whether as a novice or a member. We welcome ALL lifters

[Monarchking]

 

Obvious question maybe.... obvious.

If I don't join any fed can I just bounce around all 3 entering their novice comps.

I'm not looking at setting any records (only my own). By entering the 3 different feds novice comps my total pool of available comps just went up.

 

You can only do one nzpf novice comp... Is that ever or annually? 

Ever. After you've done one novice NZPF comp you have to become a fully paid member and agree to the WADA code to compete in any further competitions. 

Shit. Ever is a bit harsh.

[Monarchking]

As a member of GPC you will not be sanctioned against for entering any other federation competition whether as a novice or a member. We welcome ALL lifters

Hey. Is there an annual Callander out or just winging it ATM?