Is it optimal to get lean before starting Steroids?

[Gh14]

For Bodybuilding purposes. Alot of people suggest online and on forums that by starting a cycle lean youll get less side effects and better gains. So im going to go on a 12 week cut before starting.

 

What's everyones opinion?

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[kiwicannon]

 Whats your stats and cycle history first mate?

 

[Gh14]

My current stats are 93 kg 5'10.

No previous cycles.

[Leeroid]

Most of your body's estrogen receptors are located in adipose tissue (fat) so you'll get less estrogen related sides if your bodyfat percentage is lower. I find that when I'm over 15% I'll get itchy nipples even if I take AIs but when I get my bodyfat under 12% I don't get any nipple sensitivity even if I don't take as much AI. So definitely makes a difference. 

 

Not to mention that you will be able to see the gains better. Nothing like getting small but shredded then watching yourself blow the f*ck up while staying lean! Haha

[Gh14]

Most of your body's estrogen receptors are located in adipose tissue (fat) so you'll get less estrogen related sides if your bodyfat percentage is lower. I find that when I'm over 15% I'll get itchy nipples even if I take AIs but when I get my bodyfat under 12% I don't get any nipple sensitivity even if I don't take as much AI. So definitely makes a difference. 

 

Not to mention that you will be able to see the gains better. Nothing like getting small but shredded then watching yourself blow the f*ck up while staying lean! Haha

Thats the plan bro Lol.

[kiwicannon]

So what meds are you planning on using mate and for how long after this 12 week cut? how fat are you now?

[rapz]

Optimal, yes. Is it essential, definately not.  I started out at a higher bf % , you just gotta accept you probably gonna be a bit more blofffy than a leaner guy and probably a bit more prone to estrogenic sides, but gains will be made.

 

[Gh14]

So what meds are you planning on using mate and for how long after this 12 week cut? how fat are you now?

I've already made a thread discussing this. but a casual dose of 500mg test e for 10 weeks. Im guessing 15% BF but i could be completely wrong. just want to get leaner.

[Ben0]

I got a bashing for starting at 18%. If I could go back I would have lowered that to 12% or so. But in saying that I didnt have any major estrogenic sides or anything but like rapz says I started looking pretty bloated and shit fast. This was only 500mg test with a dbol kickstart tho. Gains were deffianitly made tho!

But my advice would be to do your 12 week cut and go from there! Whats your current b/f%?

[Gh14]

I got a bashing for starting at 18%. If I could go back I would have lowered that to 12% or so. But in saying that I didnt have any major estrogenic sides or anything but like rapz says I started looking pretty bloated and shit fast. This was only 500mg test with a dbol kickstart tho. Gains were deffianitly made tho!

But my advice would be to do your 12 week cut and go from there! Whats your current b/f%?

Im guessing its 15 percent. However thats just by going what i see in the mirror, im not really sure. I did plan on competing in 2014 but im leaving it a bit late for bulking up on cycle.

[Ben0]

You would probabaly be ok at 15% imo, but still prob best to cut back to 12 and go from there, less work to do after the bulk!

[Gh14]

yeah, i dont want to look like just another bloofy gymrat. but i guess that depends on what you take.