Road to 85kg

[kpat102]

Whats up guys, 

Goal is to be a nice lean (around 8 percent) 85kg..Im keen to do gear if need be, but question is am I really ready for it? I've got a nutritionst and trainer sorted so I can get coached through the cycle as my trainer coaches IFBB athletes, current stats are 63kg 7-8% and 175cm. 

I know 63kg sounds very small, but girths measure out to be 96cm chest, 38cm arms and 53cm quads, it seems to be my claves that dont get any size at all  

 

Anyway post some feedback and let me know what you all think, cheers!

[jimmybro1]

Whats up guys, 

Goal is to be a nice lean (around 8 percent) 85kg..Im keen to do gear if need be, but question is am I really ready for it? I've got a nutritionst and trainer sorted so I can get coached through the cycle as my trainer coaches IFBB athletes, current stats are 63kg 7-8% and 175cm. 

I know 63kg sounds very small, but girths measure out to be 96cm chest, 38cm arms and 53cm quads, it seems to be my claves that dont get any size at all

 

Anyway post some feedback and let me know what you all think, cheers!

If your only 63kg at 175cm not need to touch gear IMO. 

Get them natty gains! 

[Leeroid]

Weight doesn't mean shit. I know a wrestler at my local polytech who is 5'10 and 62kgs. He's been training for 8 years and is a national level wrestler who won the under 60kg class at the NZ champs last year. His delts are capped and chest is full. Anyone that looks at him can see that he trains. When I found out he was only 62kgs, I was shocked. He looks at least 75kgs. Made me ashamed that I was 25kgs heavier standing next to him and we looked the same size.

 

He can fit his hands around his waist, that's how tiny his waist is. Probably 6% or less. Freaky genetics. Definitely another Ali if he was to take up bodybuilding.

 

Your chest, arms and quads sound like they're a decent size, especially for your weight. Best thing for you would be to post some pics. That'll let us know whether you're ready or not.

[justhell]

If ya want to grow you have to eat & eat heaps,

If your committed to training and eating a shit load of food?

I would jump on the gear, as long as your educated enough to understand what you will be doing to your body?

How old are you?

When you know enough about aas, there wont be any question whether or not should you jump on.

You will know that you are ready to jump on the gear.and there wont be any doubt.

Good luck in deciding what you will do.

[Leeroid]

I'd say you're ready. Go for it. Get joocy brah

[kpat102]

cheers brah means a lot. next question..what to run? test/bold? i've run 3 cycles in the past, didnt do research etc on it, yes i was a fuckwit i know. this is why im needing legit help planning this next lot haha

[Leeroid]

Well, actually I retract that statement if you have already run 3 cycles and you're still that small. You need to learn how to eat and not get wasted every weekend in the clubs.

[kpat102]

i dont drink bro. they were all cutting cycles

[rapz]

you run 3 cycles and still 63kgs??

 

oh lawd

[kpat102]

yeah, fucked up big time. thats why im here seeking help from people who know what they're talking about. there are some really smart dudes on this site. are natural gains still possible even though i've done 3 cycles?

[justhell]

Try eating a shit load of food, so much you feel bloated all the time,

Then if you are weight training you Will grow.

Pls stay safe

[rapz]

what JH he said, learn how to eat, then if you think youve had enough, eat more!!!

of course natural gains are still possible, obvoiusly they will be slower than using AAS.

moral of story, eat more bro whether you on your bike or not.

[kpat102]

sweet, its reassuring to know that i wont need gear just to gain then. thanks for the feedback guys, appreciate the help

[Realtalk]

 

Weight doesn't mean shit. I know a wrestler at my local polytech who is 5'10 and 62kgs. He's been training for 8 years and is a national level wrestler who won the under 60kg class at the NZ champs last year. His delts are capped and chest is full. Anyone that looks at him can see that he trains. When I found out he was only 62kgs, I was shocked. He looks at least 75kgs. Made me ashamed that I was 25kgs heavier standing next to him and we looked the same size.

 

He can fit his hands around his waist, that's how tiny his waist is. Probably 6% or less. Freaky genetics. Definitely another Ali if he was to take up bodybuilding.

Small and ur small too if look same size as someone who 5'10 and 60kg.

[Realtalk]

If you couldn't gain off 3 cycles then unless you completely change ur life there is no hope for you whatsoever.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

lol i try stay away from this dark side of the forum much as possible as some of the stuff shown/talked about here make it sound real tempting but straight up.... if you can't make gains at 63kg without the stuff then you need to start back at square 1 treat yourself as a complete beginner. count caloriess make SURE you eat in a surplus with no doubt. for lifting go with a tried & true program where you don't have to think about much for example most variations of 5x5, squats & milk etc. make sure you follow it to the letter and stay true to it. 

once you figure out how to eat and train for gains naturally then ask yourself later if you're ready for the gear.. don't just be another loser in the gym who mucks around with his food and training, injects excessive gear and makes no progress, peace!

[Leeroid]

 

 

Weight doesn't mean shit. I know a wrestler at my local polytech who is 5'10 and 62kgs. He's been training for 8 years and is a national level wrestler who won the under 60kg class at the NZ champs last year. His delts are capped and chest is full. Anyone that looks at him can see that he trains. When I found out he was only 62kgs, I was shocked. He looks at least 75kgs. Made me ashamed that I was 25kgs heavier standing next to him and we looked the same size.

 

He can fit his hands around his waist, that's how tiny his waist is. Probably 6% or less. Freaky genetics. Definitely another Ali if he was to take up bodybuilding.

Small and ur small too if look same size as someone who 5'10 and 60kg.

Have you seen the picture of Ali next to Kyle Hunt? Ali was 65kgs and Kyle was 100kg +. They looked the same size. 

[Realtalk]

Nah not on Facebook. Photos are deceiving... You only have to look at expo photos of weekend warriors next to pro bodybuilders, it's a about angles and distance. Anyway OP hope ur photos are decieving lol

stay safe op, try some real gear boss.

[jimmybro1]

 

 

 

Weight doesn't mean shit. I know a wrestler at my local polytech who is 5'10 and 62kgs. He's been training for 8 years and is a national level wrestler who won the under 60kg class at the NZ champs last year. His delts are capped and chest is full. Anyone that looks at him can see that he trains. When I found out he was only 62kgs, I was shocked. He looks at least 75kgs. Made me ashamed that I was 25kgs heavier standing next to him and we looked the same size.

 

He can fit his hands around his waist, that's how tiny his waist is. Probably 6% or less. Freaky genetics. Definitely another Ali if he was to take up bodybuilding.

Small and ur small too if look same size as someone who 5'10 and 60kg.

Have you seen the picture of Ali next to Kyle Hunt? Ali was 65kgs and Kyle was 100kg +. They looked the same size. 

Thats because Ali has such a small frame and good muscle bellies. 

Looking at this guys photo no way you would think he's done three cycles... 

[kpat102]

Yeah bro thats what i was thinking, weight doesn't always justify whether or not someone is ready, thanks for your feedback. here are two pics taken last week, hopefully they are enough or i'll post some more up. 

thanks for the feedback