Oral cycle length ..

[farrout]

Sorry if this has been discussed 1000 times.

Just wondering what would be a safe oral cycle length in conjunction with TRT. Have just finished 7 weeks dbol @ 20mg/day. Thinking of going onto 20mg/day oral winny.

[Leeroid]

Jerry Ward of bios3training on YouTube has said on video of how his first cycle was one Anadrol50 a day for one whole year with no breaks, every single day for 365days. When he went to the doctors and got his bloods tested, his liver enzymes were slightly elevated above normal but nothing serious. Conclusion: oral toxicity is grossly overhyped.

[kiwicannon]

PPfft 20mg?? I think you got nothing to worry about there mate lol

If you were around the 100-150mg mark one oral only id say limit it to 8-10wks

In some of my blasts ive used 150-200mg A50 ed for 8wks + 50-60mg blue heart dbol ed for 12wks aint pissed blood yet lol......obviously got bloods before and after yeah sure blood pressure up liver enzymes elevated but nothing like holy fark my liver has melted kinda bullshit you here.

Conclusion 20mg aint gonna do jack shit.....literally.

Why 20mg mate? 

[farrout]

PPfft 20mg?? I think you got nothing to worry about there mate lol

If you were around the 100-150mg mark one oral only id say limit it to 8-10wks

In some of my blasts ive used 150-200mg A50 ed for 8wks + 50-60mg blue heart dbol ed for 12wks aint pissed blood yet lol......obviously got bloods before and after yeah sure blood pressure up liver enzymes elevated but nothing like holy fark my liver has melted kinda bullshit you here.

Conclusion 20mg aint gonna do jack shit.....literally.

Why 20mg mate? 

Conservative old man ...

[farrout]

Jerry Ward of bios3training on YouTube has said on video of how his first cycle was one Anadrol50 a day for one whole year with no breaks, every single day for 365days. When he went to the doctors and got his bloods tested, his liver enzymes were slightly elevated above normal but nothing serious. Conclusion: oral toxicity is grossly overhyped.

Thanks for your reply, I read something similar on a US BB forum since posting.

[farrout]

PPfft 20mg?? I think you got nothing to worry about there mate lol

If you were around the 100-150mg mark one oral only id say limit it to 8-10wks

In some of my blasts ive used 150-200mg A50 ed for 8wks + 50-60mg blue heart dbol ed for 12wks aint pissed blood yet lol......obviously got bloods before and after yeah sure blood pressure up liver enzymes elevated but nothing like holy fark my liver has melted kinda bullshit you here.

Conclusion 20mg aint gonna do jack shit.....literally.

Why 20mg mate? 

Srs ... have gained weight before on 15mg/ day. Must have been overdosed.

[kiwicannon]

15mg?? Holy shit balls that dere be some overdosed stuff huh! Cant complain with that mate.

I dont think running a long cycle at that dose is going to give any drama.

[farrout]

15mg?? Holy shit balls that dere be some overdosed stuff huh! Cant complain with that mate.

I dont think running a long cycle at that dose is going to give any drama.

Ok ... thanks man.

What do think about going onto oral winny at 20mg/day for a month?

[kiwicannon]

I dont know what your lipids are like but i know your aware Winny wreaks havoc on your lipid profile but @ only 20mg ed for 4wks i honestly think you'll be GTG!

Ive personally used Stanz tabs along side Test etc @100mg for 10wks and my joints did feel like sandpaper at week 9ish? by memory but i got the desired result.

You be sweet man!

 

[farrout]

Ok ... my lipids are not the best. Cholesterol's over 6 & HDL is not even 1.

[Ketogains]

I read an interesting article somewhere that for someone taking Dbol one could take it work days and have weekends off since its very fast acting and has a pretty short half life you can give the body some R & R on days you are not at gym and thereby stretch the cycle to maybe a full 12 weeks

 

im not a scientist or an expert - and have never tried Dbol - crossfingers maybe after xmas,just regurgitating something i read on the internet- broscience

[farrout]

Have just finished 4 wks winny @ 20mg/day after 7 wks dbol. Keep going with the winny or take a break?

 

Thanks in advance guys ...

[atrollappears]

Have just finished 4 wks winny @ 20mg/day after 7 wks dbol. Keep going with the winny or take a break?

 

Thanks in advance guys ...

From what I understand about Winstrol:

It improves strength considerably

Helps reduce water weight

Is one of the most toxic orals (although at 20mg/day I wouldn't concern myself too much)

The most easily masked steroid therefore prefered by tested athletes

Reduces the integrity of connective tissue considerably (don't try busting PB's)..

[atrollappears]

PPfft 20mg?? I think you got nothing to worry about there mate lol

If you were around the 100-150mg mark one oral only id say limit it to 8-10wks

In some of my blasts ive used 150-200mg A50 ed for 8wks + 50-60mg blue heart dbol ed for 12wks aint pissed blood yet lol......obviously got bloods before and after yeah sure blood pressure up liver enzymes elevated but nothing like holy fark my liver has melted kinda bullshit you here.

Conclusion 20mg aint gonna do jack shit.....literally.

Why 20mg mate? 

 

 

J Pharm Biomed Anal. 2013 Sep;83:260-4. doi: 10.1016/j.jpba.2013.05.024. Epub 2013 May 25.

When colour fails: illicit blue tablets containing anabolic androgen steroids.

Favretto D, Castagna F, Maietti S, Boscolo-Berto R, Ferrara SD.

Source

Department of Molecular Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Padova, Via Falloppio 50, I-35121 Padova, Italy. donata.favretto@unipd.it

Abstract

The necessity of specific, confirmatory tests in the identification of seized illicit products was highlighted by the analysis of eighteen heart shaped, blue tablets confiscated by Police at a street control in the North East of Italy. The tablets responded as amphetamines to a preliminary color test (Marquis); a subsequent, confirmatory assay by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry revealed the presence of two anabolic androgen steroids (AAS), methandienone and methyltestosterone, in concentration of 1.7 and 1.5mg respectively per tablet; no trace of amphetamine-like or nitrogen containing compounds was found. The observed orange coloration was due to the reaction of concentrated sulphuric acid, contained in the Marquis reagent, with the Δ(4) C-3 keto group of steroids. The two AAS, banned under the world antidoping code, are not considered as psychoactive drugs of abuse in most countries, although their trafficking may entangle severe public health concerns.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23770638

[Realtalk]

I been to Thailand 3 times this year.

there are fakes and authentics of all types of steroids in Thailand, danabol blue hearts included. To put it into perspective I could pay 16000Baht for an authentic designer bag and walk 25 meters and buy an exact copy for 160Baht if I could be arsed bartering for 10minutes. The point is that you can buy authentic and copies of anything you want over there... Why would steroids be any different.

This shouldn't shock anyone. These types of orals are relatively easy to tell if they are working or not. 

There is real blue hearts and fake blue hearts. Not like we have uncovered aliens people.

[atrollappears]

I been to Thailand 3 times this year.

there are fakes and authentics of all types of steroids in Thailand, danabol blue hearts included. To put it into perspective I could pay 16000Baht for an authentic designer bag and walk 25 meters and buy an exact copy for 160Baht if I could be arsed bartering for 10minutes. The point is that you can buy authentic and copies of anything you want over there... Why would steroids be any different.

This shouldn't shock anyone. These types of orals are relatively easy to tell if they are working or not. 

There is real blue hearts and fake blue hearts. Not like we have uncovered aliens people.

Nope.... Just a Troll..... *mosking*