Dumbbell press and flys on ground vs bench

[Humble]

Does any one do Dumbbell presses or flies on the ground rather then on a bench?

Would you be able to use more weight if you did it on the ground since there's support on your elbows and shoulders when you come down? Or does this take away effectiveness of the exercise as you have support and are kind of cheating?

But then again, I would imagine doing it on the floor would be safer on your joints and less prone to injury as you always have the floor as support for your elbows and shoulders when coming down?

 

On a bench how far are your elbows supose to go below your plane, if any?

[mrgeeky]

I only do dumbell presses on the floor.. Much easier to control lifting of dumbells..  There is a great video on this, where the guy shows how to use his legs to help lift heavy dumbells..  I'll try to find after..The video also shows the guy has very good chest development with out going deep... Also less chance of injury.. I spoke to a guy who does arthograms.. (think I have that word right) He said the number one cause rotator cuff injuries that he sees comes from going to deep when benching..  ie: bringing bar all the way down to the chest..

I used to laugh at guys that did partial bench presses.. They would come down to a few cms' short of the chest......  Well after screwing my shoulders over I cant bench at all now.. I wish I had of followed suit and kept the bar off my chest ..

So yep, I only do dumbell chest stuff while lying on the floor...

With my comments keep in mind though my shoulders are pretty well fckud anyway...

 

[Gym rat]

I havent tryed doing db presses on the floor including flyes  as well but I have seen people do them.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

mrgeeky that video you're referring to might be scooby's? he always does them on the floor apparently and does have a massive chest.. not sure if i believe him when he says that's all he's done all his life. he has been training for 20+yrs , could well have spent significant time on a bench building it up but just showing something different on youtube because everyones gotta have some point of difference (if they're all giving the same advice how will they get more subscribers)

 

stuff like floor press or board presses are legit exercises in helping build strength for the bench.  depends where you're at in your training and what your goals might be.

 

highly doubt you'll be able to use more weight on the floor because you don't have your leg drive to help you then again, floor press takes out the leg from the exercise so you're just left with pecs, delts triceps to move the weight.  powerlifters often use floor/board press to help strengthen themselves through a certain ROM ultimately for a bigger bench

 

for bodybuilding purposes so many BBsers say don't even bother with the barbell bench press, they can really squeeze and stretch the pecs through the full rom with DB pressing.. if you do it on the floor you get the squeeze but not the stretch. if you have shoudler problems though do what you gotta do.. healthy shoulders i would not replace a full ROM movement with a limited ROM one. it's worth taking time to re-assess your form every now and then though. it looks like such a simple exercise you just lie down and push the bar up, bring it down and do it again but much more than that involved to remain injury free while pushing more and more weight

[mrgeeky]

mrgeeky that video you're referring to might be scooby's? he always does them on the floor apparently and does have a massive chest.. not sure if i believe him when he says that's all he's done all his life. he has been training for 20+yrs , could well have spent significant time on a bench building it up but just showing something different on youtube because everyones gotta have some point of difference (if they're all giving the same advice how will they get more subscribers)

 

stuff like floor press or board presses are legit exercises in helping build strength for the bench.  depends where you're at in your training and what your goals might be.

 

highly doubt you'll be able to use more weight on the floor because you don't have your leg drive to help you then again, floor press takes out the leg from the exercise so you're just left with pecs, delts triceps to move the weight.  powerlifters often use floor/board press to help strengthen themselves through a certain ROM ultimately for a bigger bench

 

for bodybuilding purposes so many BBsers say don't even bother with the barbell bench press, they can really squeeze and stretch the pecs through the full rom with DB pressing.. if you do it on the floor you get the squeeze but not the stretch. if you have shoudler problems though do what you gotta do.. healthy shoulders i would not replace a full ROM movement with a limited ROM one. it's worth taking time to re-assess your form every now and then though. it looks like such a simple exercise you just lie down and push the bar up, bring it down and do it again but much more than that involved to remain injury free while pushing more and more weight

yep, that was the one mate..