MT2

[Ben0]

Have seen a bit of chat about this around the forums, but keen to know a bit more about others experiance with the stuff. 

Have read it can have some nasty sides, including vision issues, and other sides last around 12hours. Would it be an idea to take it later at night so you sleep through most sides? Sounds like MT1 has very minimal sides, but is fair less effictive. Wouldnt it be a better idea to use this over a longer period of time?

Are both of these drugs pretty commonly avaliable around nz? I'm assuming anything from overseas would be seized..

Interested to hear how others have found using this drug..

[kiwicannon]

I know a guy who has claimed to have used MT2 and have gotten average results but he said he didnt go through the loading process? he said he had god like mega erections off the stuff....im in if thats the case lol on a srs note im keen to hear from anyone whos used this product with success also it sounds interesting

Apology for the thread jack ben0

[Leeroid]

I've been using MT2 for the last 6 weeks or so at .5mgs Monday/Thursday after an initial load of .5mgs/day for a week.

 

I have not noticed any side effects at all, neither positive or negative apart from the fact that I am now a lot darker. In the first two weeks of administration combined with the use of a tanning bed, I had people asking me whether I had spraytanned myself as I had suddenly become so much darker.

[Ben0]

Thanks leeroid. Is that a pretty average dose to use?

[Leeroid]

Thanks leeroid. Is that a pretty average dose to use?

Yes, I would say that is a pretty typical dosage

[Ben0]

Interesting you didnt come across any sides either, I was a bit put of using it after reading some peoples comments on it

[Realtalk]

The dosage and duration of the loading phase is what will determine how dark you become, when you are on maintenance you will become darker still but this depends on the loading you did. Use sunbed to get best tan, you can get stupidly obvious tan lines from it if you not careful, and the king homo sunglass outline if your an absolute knob end. I did mine in middle of summer and even driving round during day my right forearm was significantly darker than my left, I actually ended up wrapping a towel round my right arm when I drove It happened that quickly it made me paranoid.

loaded for 15 days @ 1mg ed I was 100kg so this is probay towards higher end for a load but it worked very well... Then maintained on 2x1mg per week.

got sore stomach for first 4 loading shots after that nothing, only lasted 20 mins and wasn't anything major. Nothing else apart from loss of appetite, loads more freckles and birth marks I never knew I had. All faded away after discontinuation.

Def use sunbeds though that would be the most useful advice after protocol and education etc.

[Depleted]

Be careful with the the face as this seems to darken up the fastest. So Sunscreen your face mine went real dark in a couple of days early on. I never really tan and this has been the best tan ive had as above sunbeds are the key.  Be perpared for a few freckeles and darker moles but in the big scheme of thiings its not that bad !!!

[jimmybro1]

I read on another forum about I guy that developed blurred vision when using MT2. Was due to the formation of a mole in the back of his eye. 

Edit: I found trend quote below

I have been using mt2 for about 18 months and got a tan like you wouldnt believe.  I have often sung its praises on this forum. I had heard of people using this having eye problems but just like most of you thought it didnt apply to me.  So I judged the risks to be worth it - especially as MT2 had already completed most of its testing and was apparently almost ready to be licenced. Recently the vision in my left eye went blurred . It seemed to deteriate very quickly so went to get it checked out. I was diagnosed with – serous retinopathy (CSR) and they found a nevus (mole) at the back of my eye that has never been there before. Users of MT2 will be aware in some instances of moles that wern't there beofre suddenly appearing on your skin - well it's exactly the same with the back of your eyes. I am told that this nevus (mole) on my retina has to be checked requently as it could turn cancerous. If you’re thinking of using mt2 take my advice DON’T after all it’s still an unlicensed drug!!!! - and its just not worth losing your sight or getting cancer. Just google MT2 and eye probs if you need to know more.

[Ben0]

Thanks guys, good insite into it. I read that too jimmy, its a bit of a worry..but using it for 18months? How long is the norm to use it for? So winter would be the best time of year to use it, using only sunbeds to get an even tan to avoid the tan lines?

[jimmybro1]

Thanks guys, good insite into it. I read that too jimmy, its a bit of a worry..but using it for 18months? How long is the norm to use it for? So winter would be the best time of year to use it, using only sunbeds to get an even tan to avoid the tan lines?

Yeah 18 months does sound excessive, everyone is different though might not be an issue for some at all and others it will be I guess.

 

[Dinahlady]

Ive used before (for the record In the UK where it is completely legal to buy and use). 

I think I used 0.5mg EOD (I was scared of sides) 3x. Then 1mg EOD untill it was gone (10mg I think). 

I think then the websites promoted longer use/more (20mg+) for paler people in kind of cycles. I only used 10mg. 

At first no sides, but after about a week I felt a bit sicky/light headed after shots - but at the time I was followinig a low carb kind of diet anyway and probabbly not eating enough and probably was weak as f*ck immune wise from it so not sure if I'd feel as bad now - most people say to take it before bed because the sides usualyl happen straight after (eg erections or feeling nauseous) so going to sleep before that kicks in is helpful - but I found I couldnt get to sleep after just doing it. 

I noticed my moles got a lot darker too, and some came up that were pale before - kind of freaked me out a bit and others noticed a bit... And after about 2 weeks of it I started feeling ill and fluey so I stopped (only had a couple shots left anyway). Not sure if that was from the stuff or just bad timing. 

Other guys (knew about 4/5 people personally and probably about 10 indirectly who had/were using) I spoke to who it worked really well for said their moles got darker too but so did their skin - but I found there became a bigger difference between my skin and moles though my skin did get darker.... But maybe because I didnt use for long enough/didn't get enough sun exposure. The moles went lighter again after about a year. 

I also didn't like scratches/small marks left form insulin needles on tummy, when going swimming etc with friends I worried they'd see and give me shit haha. Though they probably weren't noticable. 

Before I used it I would burn on a sunbed in 4 mins (LOL) and had been trying to use sunbeds to get a tan for about 2 months before and never got any darker lol

I used about 2-3 sunbeds a week when i was using it and didnt burn at all and got darker than I'd ever been after 2nd week was using like 8 min sunbeds completely fine. 

After using it that spring I didn't get burnt on holiday or in the summer at all for about the next 2 years. 

Even now I reckon I'm residually darker from it and don't burn nearly as easily - historically had horrible blisters and really bad bed ridden from sunburn etc and had to be a suncream nazi. Now not so much. 

 

I'd be worried about using it continually or repeatedly as you just dont know if long term use could cause risk. Its pretty common for drugs that have passed all trials that are legally prescribed by doctors to cause long term health problems or risks that weren't estimated or picked up on in trials - which is why all drugs have to be monitored epidemiologically after they have been put on sale. If MT2 isn't something that isn't readily prescribed studied and monitored then who knows what you could be exposing yourself to long term. 

And yeah just want to say overall I don't condone using any unnaproved or unprescribed drugs If theres any known or unknown potential risks then its just not worth it because when it affects you you'll wish you hadn't... 

 

[Pseudonym]

My understanding is that melanotan (both MT1 and MT2) generally only causes existing spots to darken. Now you may have freckles that have faded into near-invisibility - but they're still there, and melanotan brings them out. That usually happens in the first week or two.

I haven't heard of any cases where extended use of melanotan keeps producing more and more spots. Most people don't end up with any more spots after 6 months than they do after the first few weeks.

It's the same deal inside your eye. In fact, it's quite common to have a nevus there - as long as it's not on the retina, there's usually no issue.

Here's a good discussion on it:
http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1183897770/65#65

Just got back from the optometrist this afternoon. I was overdue for a checkup anyway; this just made me do something about it!
 
First of all, my eyes are fine. No signs of anything untoward at all. (For what it's worth, I currently have several dark spots on my face from a cycle I'm half-heartedly running at the moment)
 
Secondly, I had a long chat with him about melanotan II and any possible effects it may have. He did not seem overly concerned at the general concept. I also asked specifically about the conditions Robbie experienced. Here's what he said...
 
Choroidal nevus - these occur quite naturally on a not infrequent basis. My optometrist said they'd usually see them, maybe not daily, but certainly weekly. He then went and looked up what he described as the "definitive resource" for opthamologists. It put the incidence rate at 5-10% for Caucasians. At the risk of stating the obvious, then, that means that if 10 of us rush off to get our eyes checked after Robbie's post, we could expect that a couple of us would have choriodal nevi - quite apart from any effect the melanotan may or may not have.
 
CSR - again, these occur quite naturally too. 90% of cases can be found in broadly-middle-aged (eg, 25-65) males, often under stress. He said any further links between CSR and other drugs were only loose associations at this stage, and had not yet been definitively proven.

That's not saying that melanotan conclusively DOESN'T cause problems, but it put things in perspective.

[Leeroid]

Ah yes, that was the only side effect. I noticed about 5 more moles appear on my face. Tiny ones though and nobody noticed.

[Ben0]

Thanks for the detailed replys. The darkening of the moles is probably the most concerning part for me. How does it work with tan lines?(singlet lines etc) Does it make them stand out more or darken you off evenly?

[Dinahlady]

I think it would even out if you sunbed -  unless you are out in the sun with a singlet on. 

I wasn't in a sunny country so had no problem lolbut if you find youself out in the sun then like realtalk said before you can get lines from the exposure. 

I think it did darken existing moles - they were really pale ones that I didnt notice before - but I mean they became more pronounced against my skin tone. 

[Ben0]

I might just have to give it a go and see lol I'm thinking i'll use a really low dose and increase later on if im happy with how it is going. How long would I need to use it for? I'm not looking for the perfect tan, just want to get a bit darker to stop getting burnt so easy in summer ..also anyones thoughts on mt1, or is this just a waste of time?

[god-of-bodybuilding]

lmao at yall white people tryna get a darker skin complexion

 

my africans, my middle easterners, my asians.. the real superior races. white people aint shit

 

[Ben0]

^ummm?

[Leeroid]

At least he won't be posting for a while after GTA V comes out LOL

[Ben0]

At least he won't be posting for a while after GTA V comes out LOL

hahahaha nah he doesnt have enough money to buy a ps3 yet remember. Should hit your mum up for a loan till the money from your paper run comes in bro

[Dinahlady]

I might just have to give it a go and see lol I'm thinking i'll use a really low dose and increase later on if im happy with how it is going. How long would I need to use it for? I'm not looking for the perfect tan, just want to get a bit darker to stop getting burnt so easy in summer ..also anyones thoughts on mt1, or is this just a waste of time?

 

Depends on how easily you tan, and how white you are. I reckon the 10mg is enough to get the effect of not burning so easily. But if you are really really pasty white like I am and had never really tanned before (eastern european blood) you wont get noticbly more tanned from 10mg than other people are but you'll notice a difference in yourself and for the burning. 

If you want to get a proper "tanned" look and you're pale as and can never tan you'd need 20 or even 30 mg for that I think. 

 

Like I said 10mg lasts for about 2-3 weeks or so depending on how much you take per shot and how long you stay on a lower dose.

Hope that helps. 

 

[Ben0]

Thanks Dinah, the sort of info I need. I will source some out and give it a try. Thanks!

[Ben0]

Went for 30mg, better to have too much then not enough *smile*  I have read that the nasty sides are a lot worse at high doses and it is better to run a lower dose for a longer time.

So my understanding of it is:

Load 0.5mg Everyday for 7-10 days , then after that 0.5mg 2x per week to maintain that shade?

 

[AZIDE]

Went for 30mg, better to have too much then not enough  I have read that the nasty sides are a lot worse at high doses and it is better to run a lower dose for a longer time.

So my understanding of it is:

Load 0.5mg Everyday for 7-10 days , then after that 0.5mg 2x per week to maintain that shade?

 

30mg is easily enough. load 500-1000mcg/day but for longer than 7-10 days. i would go 15-20 days.

I started on 0.5mg/day first 10 days then upped to 1mg/day during loading. Used either a whole 10mg vial on loading or possibly a little more.

Got brown as f*ck rapidly. didnt even sunbed but was out in sun for hours everyday.