Original Jack3d

[Oskarrr]

So who here actually has/knows how to get some of the Original shit? i know its possible in some way because my mate just got a whole tub of that shit, im mirin ):

 

 

[JettsGym]

Ask your mate? Or go around local supp stores and ask if they have the original.

I know you can order some from online nutra planet. (well could not sure if all out)

[Oskarrr]

Ask your mate? Or go around local supp stores and ask if they have the original.

I know you can order some from online nutra planet. (well could not sure if all out)

Yeah i did, and he asked the guy he brought it off who asked his supplier who said "sources: ): but i dont think he has any in stock atm. 

Also do Nutraplanet ship to NZ, and if so will Jack3d make it through customs? has anyone ordered from there recently getting original jack3d?

[MullacT]

Bodybuilding.com?

My mate gets his from there. Pretty sure its the orignial. Has MDA in it.

[QuJo]

MDA?

 

pretty sure you mean DMAA

[pkgr33n]

No idea man, I want some though! 

These pre workouts are not cutting it, don't feel shit. 

I've checked ebay, original Jack3d on there, but not 2 sure if NZ customs would seize lol, but most likely they would? Anyone have any insight into this?

I actually missed out on the good old days preworkouts, pretty new to them, and have tried a few samples these days of the most popular ones around, and not feeling anything really....

 

 

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

No idea man, I want some though! 

These pre workouts are not cutting it, don't feel shit. 

I've checked ebay, original Jack3d on there, but not 2 sure if NZ customs would seize lol, but most likely they would? Anyone have any insight into this?

I actually missed out on the good old days preworkouts, pretty new to them, and have tried a few samples these days of the most popular ones around, and not feeling anything really....

 

 

yes if they check it they will seize it as DMAA is now banned. not just the 1 product but they'll seize your entire order for that matter (can't confirm this part as it's just 2nd hand knowledge).

I have gotten through some american formulated noxplode in the past which was also banned here and it was fine.. that being said there are people who order in way dodgier stuff than preworkouts and it gets through customs so if you really wnt it give it a shot, understanding the risk(waste your $ not that it's that costly buying form overseas).

[Flex]

The "original" jack3d no longer contains DMAA - it still has the same label however they got rid of DMAA a while ago, now uses Yohimbine and I'd say most US retailers have long since sold out of the DMAA version. Yohimbine is prescription only in NZ so again you can't import it, however you're not getting the DMAA so probably no use anyway. The only decent thing USP labs have managed to produce was the DMAA based Jack3d so without that around, the rest of their products tend to do sweet FA.

[pkgr33n]

yes if they check it they will seize it as DMAA is now banned. not just the 1 product but they'll seize your entire order for that matter (can't confirm this part as it's just 2nd hand knowledge).

I have gotten through some american formulated noxplode in the past which was also banned here and it was fine.. that being said there are people who order in way dodgier stuff than preworkouts and it gets through customs so if you really wnt it give it a shot, understanding the risk(waste your $ not that it's that costly buying form overseas).

Ohk, yeah its all luck I guess. Plenty of shit that gets through tbh lol. 

 

The "original" jack3d no longer contains DMAA - it still has the same label however they got rid of DMAA a while ago, now uses Yohimbine and I'd say most US retailers have long since sold out of the DMAA version. Yohimbine is prescription only in NZ so again you can't import it, however you're not getting the DMAA so probably no use anyway. The only decent thing USP labs have managed to produce was the DMAA based Jack3d so without that around, the rest of their products tend to do sweet FA.

Oh woah sucks to hear lol, that DMAA was key! I've been trying all sorts of pre workouts and 2+scoops etc nothing seems to be working lol 

[Flex]

 

 I've been trying all sorts of pre workouts and 2+scoops etc nothing seems to be working lol 

What do you mean by "nothing seems to be working"? What kind of results do you expect from a vasoconstricting central nervous system stimulant?

 

On July 2, 2013, as a result of follow-up legal action by FDA, the dietary supplement firm USPlabs voluntarily destroyed its DMAA-containing products located at its facility in Dallas, Texas. The products - USPlab's OxyElite Pro and Jack3d - are estimated to have been worth more than $8 million at the retail level. USPlabs has agreed to stop manufacturing dietary supplements containing DMAA.

USPlabs agreed to destroy the products after FDA administratively detained them under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, recently amended by the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA). Under its administrative detention authority, FDA can detain a food or dietary supplement product if the agency has reason to believe the product is adulterated or misbranded. The agency can keep detained products out of the marketplace for a maximum of 30 days while it determines whether to take further enforcement action, such as seizure. Under FDA regulations, detained articles can be voluntarily destroyed by their owner.

FDA continues to advise consumers not to buy or use dietary supplement products that contain DMAA due to the health risks they present.

Consumers who believe they have been harmed by using a dietary supplement should contact their health care practitioner. Consumers can also report such incidents directly to FDA, see Dietary Supplements - Adverse Event Reporting. In addition, consumers can also report these adverse events to the company whose name and contact information is on the product label.

[Pseudonym]

FDA can detain a food or dietary supplement product if the agency has reason to believe the product is adulterated or misbranded.

That wasn't the reason the products were detained though, was it? Surely the problem wasn't with the label, but with the fact it contained DMAA at all? Or was USPlabs trying to be extra sneaky and hide the DMAA content?

[pkgr33n]

 

 

 I've been trying all sorts of pre workouts and 2+scoops etc nothing seems to be working lol 

What do you mean by "nothing seems to be working"? What kind of results do you expect from a vasoconstricting central nervous system stimulant?

 

On July 2, 2013, as a result of follow-up legal action by FDA, the dietary supplement firm USPlabs voluntarily destroyed its DMAA-containing products located at its facility in Dallas, Texas. The products - USPlab's OxyElite Pro and Jack3d - are estimated to have been worth more than $8 million at the retail level. USPlabs has agreed to stop manufacturing dietary supplements containing DMAA.

USPlabs agreed to destroy the products after FDA administratively detained them under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, recently amended by the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA). Under its administrative detention authority, FDA can detain a food or dietary supplement product if the agency has reason to believe the product is adulterated or misbranded. The agency can keep detained products out of the marketplace for a maximum of 30 days while it determines whether to take further enforcement action, such as seizure. Under FDA regulations, detained articles can be voluntarily destroyed by their owner.

FDA continues to advise consumers not to buy or use dietary supplement products that contain DMAA due to the health risks they present.

Consumers who believe they have been harmed by using a dietary supplement should contact their health care practitioner. Consumers can also report such incidents directly to FDA, see Dietary Supplements - Adverse Event Reporting. In addition, consumers can also report these adverse events to the company whose name and contact information is on the product label.

Some sort of buzz!

Intresting read man, all the goodies destroyed

 

[Flex]

Some sort of buzz

You should try candy flipping preworkout then, can't beat that for a buzz.

 

That wasn't the reason the products were detained though, was it? Surely the problem wasn't with the label, but with the fact it contained DMAA at all? Or was USPlabs trying to be extra sneaky and hide the DMAA content?

 

No I think the problem is that no one has been able to prove that DMAA is found naturally in geranium extract - something can't be sold OTC as dietary supplement unless it occurs naturally, even if the majority of dietary supplements are synthetic equivalents of naturally occuring compounds. The only person that seems to say DMAA occurs naturally is Patrick Arnold, everyone just takes his word for it yet loads of tests can't find it in geranium extract.

 

[danellaj]

Ah I did wonder why there was no more oxy elite pro. I knew about ja3ked, shame they were good. Dont know If I want to read about the side effects of DMAA....... ignorance is bliss maybe

[2fierce]

We were warned about DMMA being banned. Should have stocked up. When neurocore was banned I stocked up huge. 50 plus units. Fortune favours the prepared. Same with original mutant shred.