anyone know how fast muscle memory will take for me

[Imadeapoopsie]

ive been out of heavy weights for pretty much a year, last september, (was babying my injuries too much)

anyways im pretty much healed now and im steadily increasing my weight load by 10pct a week

 

heres a pic from 4 months ago vs last september, which is my goal, i started really lifting 2-3 weeks ago 

right now using 28kg on incline db press, 70kg deadlift, 70kg squat, 60kg bench press. my BW: 70kg 15%bf

my old lifts were 50kg incline db press, 200kg deadlift, 180kg squat and 140kg bench press (which i plan reach and surpass) BW:80kg ~11%bf

if everything goes well i wonder if it could take 2 -4 months to get my old strength/build back? is this possible???

 

[AZIDE]

what gear are you using/planning to use?

[Imadeapoopsie]

what gear are you using/planning to use?

have never used gear nor do i plan.. but i did use supplements before they were: creatine, whey gold standard, pre workouts, fish oil, multi.

but i dont plan on using supps anymore

[Dontrunwithknives]

More like 4-6 months. It has taken me about 5 months in a similar situation and I'm still not quite there.

[Imadeapoopsie]

More like 4-6 months. It has taken me about 5 months in a similar situation and I'm still not quite there.

oh no dammit :/ it looks like i did lose a year of progress afer all so it might take me half the time ti get back there. gahh

[Imadeapoopsie]

i grow muscle prety fast hope it will be 3 months

[Dinahlady]

Isn't the main thing the risk of re-injury? 

The faster you go the more likely you are to re-injur yourself if the factors that origonally contributed to your injury aren't 100% sorted. 

If you rush you could cause more/worse issues than before? 

In other words what are you doing differently than the first time round so you wont get injured? and is there anything else that you need to do to stop that happening again? 

[Gym rat]

the best option would be to just take your time and use weights that are modrate and use good form with high reps and stick with supplements that you are using plus they will help you recover faster from your training

[Imadeapoopsie]

Isn't the main thing the risk of re-injury? 

The faster you go the more likely you are to re-injur yourself if the factors that origonally contributed to your injury aren't 100% sorted. 

If you rush you could cause more/worse issues than before? 

In other words what are you doing differently than the first time round so you wont get injured? and is there anything else that you need to do to stop that happening again? 

my first injury was sprained Wrist, which was a stupid mistake it was by deadlifting my max with straps without getting used to straps first.

then i rested that hand too long(7 months).. when i got back into it, the injured hand is smaller/stiffer than the other, the imbalance hurt the Shoulder while doing DB flyee.. so another 3 months out..

now im back but my injured hand is still like nearly an inch smaller than my good hand.. 

What should i do about it now?... should i just stick with medium weights and wait for the hand to catch up in size?? or only train the smaller hand for like 2 weeks till it catches up, 

that would suck to do... since i already lost so much size

[Dinahlady]

 

The number one thing would be to look at doing some light wrist stretching so you can see what the imbalances are and see how it feels after doing it. It could be your forearm/bicep/tricep is all tightened up as well and causing issues referred to other places like shoulder/wrist. try them and see if its okay after you've done them a couple of times (does it keep getting sore and inflammed? or is stiffness improving?)  and yeah definitely look into some shoulder/bicep/tricep/trap/thoracic spine etc stretches incase its all messed up along there from training with a bit of an imbalance. Just search youtube for "wrist stretching routine" or "wrist stretches" or "easy wrist stretches". And just see how it feels. Then Similarly but secondly: "shoulder stretches" or "shoulder stretching routine" or "upperbody stretching routine". Find something you like or compile stretches you like and do it 3-4x per week (or as much as feels good without overstretching) 

In terms of training I'd look at slowly increasing weights alongside doing this but be sensible with it, especially as you start stretching and body adjusts or responds with some soreness -  things aren't always increments with that kind of stuff - err on the side of caution but you can still know you're still increasing slowly and also correcting your injury, you'll also learn when you can possibly go harder with it - or increase faster and when not to. Id keep it to lowish volume but light to start then work up from there as high reps and repetetive movement is sometimes harsher when things are stiff or have a tendency to get inflammed. If it flares up rest it for a couple of days, have a light stretch, then if it feels better go back to train again.  

If what you're doing now is a decent weight and isnt causing you issues then stick to what you are doing now but start doing some stretching like i said as well and see how that feels/affects it then go from there. 

But i can definitely say if its still tight and it caused you shoulder issues before Im not sure if its gonna get better with lifting more weight and not doing any stretches/continuing rehab? 

You should, in general, be thoughrally stretching (or getting full body fascial release every week?) anyway if you want longevity in training without injury so this should be just the start . 

[Imadeapoopsie]

is 10pct increase a week slow enough, now that ive reached some of the heavier weight its feels like my weakness is slowing down my weak hand, wich might end bad so i might listen to you and slow down for a bit

stretching as much as i hate them bcus theyre boring... if ul think its that important then i guess ill make an effort for it hah

i don't think im able to afford myo fascial release every week maybe once a month wont be too bad
edit: i probably wont waste money on it lol 

[Dinahlady]

Yeah i was kinda nt srs about the fascial release and was mainly referencing lazy bbers who probably dont actually do that much stretching and just pay for heaps for massage (maybe they do lots of correctives and stretches but we just dont see it?)

I used to feel the same about stretching. but stretching is only boring because its hard to remember/know what stretches to do and its not very interesting holding the same thing for ages or not having a good repertoire of stretches. I mean how can anyone stretch out their quads well after a workout if you only know one or two quad stretches... If you searched "quad stretching routine" it might have 6 different stretches and might change stretch 1x per minute - much less boring to than just doing the same stretch for 5 mintues... And then in 5 mins you've got a really really decent stretch out for your quads without having to discipline yourself to hold one stretch over and over.

If you watch something on youtube and follow it you dont actually have to think - you just do - and then if it gives you relief it seems much more positive than pushing through boring stretches.

Yeah if its too fast you'll know so either drop it back down a little or stay at the same weight untill you adapt you['ll know because it will start to feel easy as. then go up slowly - its  much better to take your time as it will help your lifts too in the long run even if you didnt have injuries.

[Imadeapoopsie]

Yeah i was kinda nt srs about the fascial release and was mainly referencing lazy bbers who probably dont actually do that much stretching and just pay for heaps for massage (maybe they do lots of correctives and stretches but we just dont see it?)

I used to feel the same about stretching. but stretching is only boring because its hard to remember/know what stretches to do and its not very interesting holding the same thing for ages or not having a good repertoire of stretches. I mean how can anyone stretch out their quads well after a workout if you only know one or two quad stretches... If you searched "quad stretching routine" it might have 6 different stretches and might change stretch 1x per minute - much less boring to than just doing the same stretch for 5 mintues... And then in 5 mins you've got a really really decent stretch out for your quads without having to discipline yourself to hold one stretch over and over.

If you watch something on youtube and follow it you dont actually have to think - you just do - and then if it gives you relief it seems much more positive than pushing through boring stretches.

Yeah if its too fast you'll know so either drop it back down a little or stay at the same weight untill you adapt you['ll know because it will start to feel easy as. then go up slowly - its  much better to take your time as it will help your lifts too in the long run even if you didnt have injuries.

ok lol, true about the stretching thats a good idea using youtube .

yeah im using some reasonable weight so ill stick to them for 1-2 weeks for pusing exercises and ill increase pull exercises faster since it puts less pressure on wrist cus ur not bending it. still got a long way before im using my usual weights haha

[Imadeapoopsie]

these photos were all taken without pump 

the top left pic on march 2013 was a few months before i started lifting i became as small as the pic on bottom left in like June 2013. still on journey to my physique last year its just mainly my shoulders and chest thats taking a long time to get back. i really am not as close as i thought i was after looking at this comparison photo couple weeks ago lol

anyway ive been back into it for 5 months and 2 weeks so far, im 3 kgs lighter than i was last year but more bodyfat too, shoulder and chest strength sure takes long to get back grr 

i hope it wont take more than another 2 - 3 months so i can finally surpass my old self and start trying to beat some ppl im jelly of lol

P.S total time i stopped liting for is like 11months lol

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

what the.. what happened between march 2013 to june 2013 lol is that even you

[Imadeapoopsie]

what the.. what happened between march 2013 to june 2013 lol is that even you

lol yeah bad angle and not flexing haha

it was 7 months without lifting in march and then a further 4 months off so i lost more size

so happy i stopped fearing lifting... applied the song "till i collapse" and back into it now

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

fk man thats ridiculous what happened do you have more pics? if you put them in order from there you could send it in to the TV Shop and apply to become one of those advertising models lol.. "i looked like this few months ago now since i started using this ab vibrator i have gained 20kgs of pure muscle and all the chicks dig me"

 

till i collapse mean song, bet you're glad you got back in to it. very nice case of muscle memory there i think others who have stopped lifting for a while and thinking "itll take me years to get back all that muscle why bother" may look at it and gain the inspiration they need.

[Imadeapoopsie]

fk man thats ridiculous what happened do you have more pics? if you put them in order from there you could send it in to the TV Shop and apply to become one of those advertising models lol.. "i looked like this few months ago now since i started using this ab vibrator i have gained 20kgs of pure muscle and all the chicks dig me"

 

till i collapse mean song, bet you're glad you got back in to it. very nice case of muscle memory there i think others who have stopped lifting for a while and thinking "itll take me years to get back all that muscle why bother" may look at it and gain the inspiration they need.

haha would be mean to be on a tv ad, maybe ill research how to lol

lol using an ab vibrator to gain mass xD

it would be great to know if im really motivating someone, ppl who stop lifting for years; i totally understand how it feels embarking on the journey to getting back it just doesnt feel worth going thru all the pain again only to catch up instead of training to overtake ur best.. its like playing a game without checkpoints you get far and die and haf to do all the nuby shit again. anyway im gud now bcus im doing well and use this for motivating its abt the journey