Beginner first cycle

[Ben0]

Super human is right. I have had some hard workouts and havent really had any doms..Great fun 

[Ben0]

Week 7. Starting to notice deffinate size gains all round, people are noticing now. Biggest thing I misjudged on this cycle was the amount I spend on food! But worth it if the gains keep coming. Have still got the carbs backed off a bit, body fat is dropping away slowley so will keep it at this for now.

Weight sitting at 101.8 (First thing in the morning)

[Ben0]

Week 8. Have cut back the calories to just above maintance, still making some gains but keen to get a bit of a jump start on my cut for summer, but would still make to make some small gains (if possible lol) . Have got some prop to bridge to pct at end of cycle. So will need more then two pinning sites. Decided to give pinning the quads a go (have only done glutes so far) Went a hand length from knee and hip on the outa sweep of quad. Went in with no pain, but had a fair bit of  blood on withdrawl (never had more then a drop with glutes) but this ran onto the floor, but did stop quite quickly. But now there is quite a large lump at the injection site. Any ideas why this would be different to glute? as I have never had even a small lump in glutes. Bit of an ache at site, but deffianitly nothing major. Any one else had this??

Edit, weight 101.2

[Ben0]

p.s was using 25g 1" and went in the full inch..

[Leeroid]

Hmmm, as for the blood you probably pricked a blood vessel which is no biggie. As for the lump, I'd be inclined to say you didn't go deep enough with the injection. But you say you went in the full inch which should've been adequate. Maybe the blood pooled up under the skin? I don't know really, just a guess. I've never had a lump after injecting quads, or anywhere else for that matter.

[Ben0]

Yea not concerned about the bleeding, more the lump. It appeared instantly after injection, so I think you could  be right about blood pooling? Its quite big, can see it through my jeans when im standing up. Would be about as round as a 10cent coin. Will just have to keep an eye on it I guess. Hopefully its not a major because other then this it is a lot more comfortable then pinning glutes

[Ben0]

Edit: Double post

[Mutant]

Any chance that you injected too fast?

Most likely just blood from nicking a blood vessel on the way through. 

[Ben0]

Any chance that you injected too fast?

Maybe a little bit, I normally have a bit of a pause at the 1/2ml mark and take  20-30secs to inject the full ml. Lump seems to be going down now, and the area is looking bruised. Not concerned about it now, just interested to why it happened..But I'm guessing the bruised look would point towards I just nicked a vessel..?

[Mutant]

Yeah pretty confident that's what you've done, give it a few days you'll be sweet. 

[Ben0]

Yea it's gone down heaps, only a small bump now and almost no pain at the site ,so must have been it..will give the other quad a go next pin and see what happens. Cheers for the replys!

[Ben0]

Still a slight lump and very bruised at last injection site. Just pinned my other quad in a similar place, and no problems at all. Couldnt even see where the needle had being, not even a spec of blood. Altho I noticed more resistance withdrawing the needle? This may just be because it was right in front of me instead of in the glute..

[Dontrunwithknives]

Still a slight lump and very bruised at last injection site. Just pinned my other quad in a similar place, and no problems at all. Couldnt even see where the needle had being, not even a spec of blood. Altho I noticed more resistance withdrawing the needle? This may just be because it was right in front of me instead of in the glute..

Possibly deeper in muscle tissue because there is less fat to go through when injecting into the quad as opposed to injecting into the glute. More muscle to go through, more resistance.

[Ben0]

^yea I would say that is what it is. Weight has stayed around the 102-103 mark the last few weeks. Gains still on the up. Am out of the country so will have to miss pinning this week. Trying to decide if i should start pct next week or run my test prop for another 2-4 weeks and keep bulking or cut to 250mg and start my cut earlier..decisions lol

[Ben0]

Pinned 500mg of test e on the weekend, first time injecting 2ml. No extra post injection pain, I expected a bit. Started test prop today, 150mg eod . Will keep bulking for a few more weeks then start pct. 

Weight is 103,13kg up since start of cycle. My weight went up very quickly in the first 4 weeks but has stayed pretty steady since then, must be losing body fat/water weight?

(Edit eod not e3d)

[Ben0]

4 shots into the test prop. 2 Have been very painful for about 4 days, the other two almost painless..strange lol I think I spent more time warming the oil on the painless two, so made sure it was nice and warm for the 5th pin today, so will see what happens.

Will be cutting the prop to 75mg eod for the next 3-4 weeks from sunday. And will begin my cut later in the week.Dropping cals from 3350 to 2700 for a start. Was planning on starting my pct on sunday, but have a bit of gear still so I figure its probley worth using it for the first month of my cut

Weight is 105 . Hoping to cut down to 90-95kg for summer. Hoping for around 10-12% bodyfat, will see what happens lol

[pkgr33n]

Nice progress and log man.

Anychance of some pics ?

 

 

[Leeroid]

Being on a calorie defict is the last thing your body needs when you're in the middle of PCT. You'll have no testosterone which means you will be very catabolic anyway. You should be consuming maintenance calories at the very least until u are sure you have recovered fully unless u wanna lose all ur gains

[Ben0]

That is a point I hadnt put to much thought into leeroid, So I am probley best to keep on a small dose throughout? I think I have enough gear to get me through if need be...What would you recommend ?

[rapz]

whatever you do whether it be blasting and cruising or PCT you need to increase you calories.  i would definitely be in a decent surplus if opting with PCT or if ya cruising on low dose test eating at maintainence at the very minimal.

[Leeroid]

Do a 4 to 6 week PCT eating well and trying to maintain ur weight. Get bloods done to confirm recovery then commence your cut. Honestly I wouldn't cut if not on gear cos when you are on gear you don't have to worry about losing muscle mass at all so can be quite aggressive on your diet and cardio.

[god-of-bodybuilding]

yea yr gonna lose all gains if u try cutting without taking anything.. sad but true

[Ben0]

hmm I probley should have researched this better but it didnt even cross my mind! Live and learn I guess. Think I may go as planned and cut for a month or so on 250mg a week, then get back on a surplus and start pct. I should be able to cut most of the fat I want to shred in that time..thanks for the comments

[FUBU]

I done my 1st cycle of TestE about 3 months ago and didn't even make it past the first month. I only lasted 1 month into the 3 month cycle. After my 1st injection to the left thigh, done an hour before bed time, everything seemed to go well, no pain at all. But after waking up, 8 hours later, It felt like someone shot me in the thigh I injected, I couldn't even get out of bed the next day. I had to stay in bed as I was unable to even stand on my feet. After sleeping for about another 6 hours I was finally able to get on my feet (only just) I still had terrible pain in my thigh so I was limping really bad for three days, by the fourth day the pain started to recede. This happened every week for the four weeks I injected. I was doing everything to the book, but was told the gear was bad by a mate of mine. The TestE had Genetix stickered on the vials. Has anyone else had similar experiences with this brand? Also after taking the first injection I woke up sweating profusely, I felt like I was suffocating, my head was boiling to the point where I nearly felt like I was going to pass out. After 5 minutes that pain started to recede, was just about ready to call for an ambulance. Hell even had other bad side effects like really oily skin, tiredness, sore gums, bad looking pimples on my back and legs, and random headaches. I thought TestE was suppose to give you an aplha male feeling and make your body respond to recovery quicker after intense workouts. I am 27 years of age and have been training for nearly twelve years and my diet has been very clean for the past eight years. I think I have been put off gear for the rest of my life after experiencing what I have while being on it.

[kiwicannon]

I done my 1st cycle of TestE about 3 months ago and didn't even make it past the first month. I only lasted 1 month into the 3 month cycle. After my 1st injection to the left thigh, done an hour before bed time, everything seemed to go well, no pain at all. But after waking up, 8 hours later, It felt like someone shot me in the thigh I injected, I couldn't even get out of bed the next day. I had to stay in bed as I was unable to even stand on my feet. After sleeping for about another 6 hours I was finally able to get on my feet (only just) I still had terrible pain in my thigh so I was limping really bad for three days, by the fourth day the pain started to recede. This happened every week for the four weeks I injected. I was doing everything to the book, but was told the gear was bad by a mate of mine. The TestE had Genetix stickered on the vials has anyone else had similar experiences with this brand? Also after taking the first injection I woke up sweating profusely, I felt like I was suffocating, my head was boiling to the point where I nearly felt like I was going to pass out. After 5 minutes that pain started to recede, was just about ready to call for an ambulance. Hell even had other bad side effects like really oily skin, tiredness, sore gums, bad looking pimples on my back and legs, and random headaches. I thought TestE was suppose to give you an aplha male feeling and make your body respond to recovery quicker after intense workouts. I am 27 years of age and have been training for nearly twelve years and my diet has been very clean for the past eight years. I think I have been put of gear for the rest of my life after experiencing what I have while being on it.

Dude just sounds like simple Test flu mate!!!! Obviously its gonna hurt the VERY first time lol but srs mate did you get a blood panel done before and after mate? did your "friend" use the same brand gear and get the same symptoms which is why he said it was your gear?or was it just bro-science? did you go back to your supplier and tell of your symptoms?