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How can you spot a juicer?


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I don't hate athletes haha! just seems odd that if everyone knows (by everyone i mean educated/aware people, not the general public) then why is it hidden under the rug?

Government influence?

Also i got no problem with juicers.. if they want to spend their money go ahead, just don't claim to be natural as it makes it very difficult to determine what is or isn't possible from natural training..

For example if i get into swimming who is or isn't on drugs? who do i look up to? (not copy as everyone is different)

Wheres the line drawn? see what i mean? how fast would Usain be without drugs? (something i'd be asking if i was a natural sprinter)

By all your posts you are assuming, that the majority of professional athletes are on something, Athletes that get tested all the time. Just because a few people get picked up on does not mean that everyone is using, stop getting so hooked up on the idea that because someone is stronger, bigger, faster than you they must be on something.

How can you not grasp the concept of people(be it your avg gym goer or pro athlete) wanting to stay anonymous when using an illegal substance, if you were out smoking P every weekend would you be letting everyone know about it. I pointed out the reasons for guys using in untested sports previously which I thought was pretty obvious. Now have pointed out one of the obvious reason the avg gym goer prefers not to be so open about it. Hopefully that clears it up a little for you

For someone who is constantly reminding everyone you are doing a few papers at uni, you don't come across as the smartest person in the world.

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I don't hate athletes haha! just seems odd that if everyone knows (by everyone i mean educated/aware people, not the general public) then why is it hidden under the rug?

Government influence?

Also i got no problem with juicers.. if they want to spend their money go ahead, just don't claim to be natural as it makes it very difficult to determine what is or isn't possible from natural training..

For example if i get into swimming who is or isn't on drugs? who do i look up to? (not copy as everyone is different)

Wheres the line drawn? see what i mean? how fast would Usain be without drugs? (something i'd be asking if i was a natural sprinter)

By all your posts you are assuming, that the majority of professional athletes are on something, Athletes that get tested all the time. Just because a few people get picked up on does not mean that everyone is using, stop getting so hooked up on the idea that because someone is stronger, bigger, faster than you they must be on something.

How can you not grasp the concept of people(be it your avg gym goer or pro athlete) wanting to stay anonymous when using an illegal substance, if you were out smoking P every weekend would you be letting everyone know about it. I pointed out the reasons for guys using in untested sports previously which I thought was pretty obvious. Now have pointed out one of the obvious reason the avg gym goer prefers not to be so open about it. Hopefully that clears it up a little for you

For someone who is constantly reminding everyone you are doing a few papers at uni, you don't come across as the smartest person in the world.

Well put. :clap:

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A lot of the signs (side effects you can observe) vary greatly individual to individual.

Some users get acne, some facial odema, some increased agression, some male pattern baldness etc. The level of development (including the trap/shoulder development Jimmy mentioned) also varies between individuals making some non users appear to be enhanced and vice versa.

You could try approaching someone who you suspect is using, the biggest angriest guy in the gym might be a good starting point, and offer to perform oral sex on him. If you fondle his testicles you may be able to detect testicular atrophy - a sure sign hes using roids! :pfft: :grin:

Sorry buddy couldn't help it!

Tbh theres no 100% fool proof way to know for sure, even I bodybuilding where athletes wear their use on the outside.

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I don't hate athletes haha! just seems odd that if everyone knows (by everyone i mean educated/aware people, not the general public) then why is it hidden under the rug?

Government influence?

Also i got no problem with juicers.. if they want to spend their money go ahead, just don't claim to be natural as it makes it very difficult to determine what is or isn't possible from natural training..

For example if i get into swimming who is or isn't on drugs? who do i look up to? (not copy as everyone is different)

Wheres the line drawn? see what i mean? how fast would Usain be without drugs? (something i'd be asking if i was a natural sprinter)

By all your posts you are assuming, that the majority of professional athletes are on something, Athletes that get tested all the time. Just because a few people get picked up on does not mean that everyone is using, stop getting so hooked up on the idea that because someone is stronger, bigger, faster than you they must be on something.

How can you not grasp the concept of people(be it your avg gym goer or pro athlete) wanting to stay anonymous when using an illegal substance, if you were out smoking P every weekend would you be letting everyone know about it. I pointed out the reasons for guys using in untested sports previously which I thought was pretty obvious. Now have pointed out one of the obvious reason the avg gym goer prefers not to be so open about it. Hopefully that clears it up a little for you

For someone who is constantly reminding everyone you are doing a few papers at uni, you don't come across as the smartest person in the world.

Well put. :clap:

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good neew gents! In my time at school, my PE teacher took the time to teach us children what to look for in steroid users. I am a little foggy on the particulars but I believe there a few common traits amongst juiceheads.

1.RAGE!!! steroid users are psyhcotic and will be unable to control their anger. They will snap at the slightest touch and when they do they will become enraged resulting violent and aggressive behaviour.

2.Addictive behaviour. Steroids are addictive and users will do thing for their next fix. They will often ask to borrow money and will become violent should their request be denied. Longer term user will ultimatley resort any means of behaviour to fuel their spiralling addiction, theft, prostitution and other crimanal activity is very common.

3.Small genetals. Steroids users often have small cocks before they start using. When they start the posion in steroids will eat away at their small dicks making them even more insecure resulting in more steroid use to boost their egos (downward spiral effect)

4. Breasts. Steroids give all steroid user large womenly breasts which they use to attract others males so they can either steal their money or rape them (enhanced libido)

5.Bear like behavour. Steroids are derived from bear sweat and this will cause users to show bear like traits. Hair growth is common around the torso and appendages. like bears users will also fight other bear like man for the breeding rights to females. Be sure to watch for excessive salmon eating or other light meat such as chicken. Often users consume excessive honey or high carb food products during the winter months to build a thick coat which will be shed before summer.

If you suspect a steroid use DO NOT APPROACH as you will most likely be beaten then raped. Inform the police immediately and wait for them to tranquilize the beast before releasing him back in his natural habitat.

hope this helps

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You could try approaching someone who you suspect is using, the biggest angriest guy in the gym might be a good starting point, and offer to perform oral sex on him. If you fondle his testicles you may be able to detect testicular atrophy - a sure sign hes using roids! :pfft: :grin:

Thanks for sharing your personal experiences nate225 :pfft: Hahaha :D

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You should set your own goals and aspirations rather than wanting to be like a particular individual.

What someone can achieve naturally or not you might not be able too. Too much finger pointing going on and singling out when in fact IMO a significant faction of high level sporting people are using some form of PED.

The sporting federations will use a escape goat which the media and public will demonize.

Set your own goals to strive towards.

*scape goat :grin:

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You should set your own goals and aspirations rather than wanting to be like a particular individual.

What someone can achieve naturally or not you might not be able too. Too much finger pointing going on and singling out when in fact IMO a significant faction of high level sporting people are using some form of PED.

The sporting federations will use a escape goat which the media and public will demonize.

Set your own goals to strive towards.

*scape goat :grin:

English was never a strong point.

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I don't hate athletes haha! just seems odd that if everyone knows (by everyone i mean educated/aware people, not the general public) then why is it hidden under the rug?

Government influence?

Also i got no problem with juicers.. if they want to spend their money go ahead, just don't claim to be natural as it makes it very difficult to determine what is or isn't possible from natural training..

For example if i get into swimming who is or isn't on drugs? who do i look up to? (not copy as everyone is different)

Wheres the line drawn? see what i mean? how fast would Usain be without drugs? (something i'd be asking if i was a natural sprinter)

What is attainable naturally is being better than you were last month. Be inspired by what you've achieved and excited by what you're striving to achieve next.

If you want to know what your natural potential is you're going to have to achieve it. You're the only one with your genetics.

I still have absolutely no idea where you're coming from or what it is you really want to know.

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