Pinning advise

[VPN]

Guys, any tips and tricks you guys personally use to pin...

Scares the hell out of me to the point I have dropped the pin a few times.

Strangely, sometimes I'm all good...

Starting to really annoy me as I'm getting worse each time.... Any tips and tricks you guys used as a newbie would be appreciated.

[Seeking]

Im a noob to pinning as well bro!

Things that worked for me..

Take your time, being in a relaxed environment helps, if you have to use a spare barrel and pin and practice your protocol (using olive oil or similar)on a piece of soft fruit or something, i know it sounds stoopid but when you feel more comfortable with the process it gets easier.

pinning sites you are comfortable with helps, stick with them, dont make it too complicated if u dont have to.

I know for a new person the thought of sticking yourself is quite daunting, in sure you will work it out, just takes a few gos.

[train_insane]

Just take your time bro. Its easy, wipe the area with the alcohol preps, pin, aspirate then push it in. It seems a big deal to start with but ya get used to it. I started with quads (1'' 23g). It allowed me to use 2 hands then you'll learn to use 1 which is pretty much every other muscle .... glutes shoulders etc.

[mr-universe]

line up where you're gonna shoot then just stab it in and inject

[VPN]

Thanks guys..... Just going to try to relax.

I do need to get to place that I can do it with one hand and use other places than my quads.

No doubt after doing it for a while it will get easier...

[Diab0lic]

OK, a few tips

Inject slowly (but not too slow) and make sure the pin is perpendicular to the muscle (don't inject at an angle). Don't stab it in as the troll above suggests, you're just asking for more discomfort

Always aspirate just in case. I know some people don't and have never had a problem, but best to be safe than sorry. Once pin is fully in, pull up on the plunger and if blood comes into the barrel, pull it out and start again.

If injecting quads, make sure you are sitting somewhere comfy where you won't need to wriggle, etc. I sit on edge of bed with leg fully relaxed, just arse cheeks on edge of bed with leg fully off so don't need to tense it

Before you jab, make sure the pin is rotated in such a way that it will allow you to easily grab the finger rests and depress the plunger. You don't want to have to twist your arm around uncomfortably or spin the needle once it's in

I draw with a 20g and jab with a 25g. A 20g draws fast as f*ck and a 25 is the most painless pin to stab yourself with. A 23g is fine for quads but a 25g is most comfortable. Any finer and the oil won't go through the pin

Make sure the alcohol on your skin is dry before pinning or it will sting and make the whole process more unpleasant than it needs to be. I use the prep wipes on my skin at the same time I wipe the vial (before drawing the oil), otherwise you have to sit there like an asshole waiting for it to dry.

In winter, you can let the loaded and capped syringe sit in some warm water for a minute or so before pinning it. Cold oil comes out of a 25g pretty damn slowly so best to warm it up.

You'll need to depress the plunger quite hard with a 25g on either way, so you may want to steady the barrel with your other hand

Sometimes when you first stick the pin in you can get a sharp sting as you graze some subcutaneous nerves. Don't yank it out as you'll need to put another pin on and stab again. Just slowly press through and the pain usually stops immediately once you pass the nerve.

Same goes for if you start to pin and you get an involuntary twitch in your quad. Hold still for a sec till the muscle relaxes and then continue.

Always go a full inch in with quads, injecting into the fattest part (the outer sweep). Don't inject with half the pin sticking out

If you do need to pull out before you have injected for some reason (excessive pain is rare but it can happen on the odd occasion, or blood comes out when you aspirate), put another pin on and stick it in again at least a cm away from where the failed jab was.

Don't jab the same spot more than once per week if you can avoid it (pretty easy to avoid)

Once you have drawn the oil into the syringe and have your 25g pin on, leave a little air bubble in the barrel and invert the barrel so the air bubble sits against the plunger (away from the needle). This bubble will push the last little bit of oil through the pin so you won't waste any juice

Always have at least one spare pin, syringe and some wipes around before starting just in case

Do all this shit and you should have trouble free pinning (most of the time )

[Android]

Not yet mentioned but maybe too obvious....

When you get down to a decent bf % like 10% you will see just how many veins spider over your Quads...it's amazing we don't hit them more often.

I always check out the skin and try and look for obvious vein lines to avoid

[farrout]

line up where you're gonna shoot then just stab it in and inject

That's the one man.

Soon it will be just like brushing your teeth ... :grin:

[Sibolovin]

So want to do, but that sheet scares me lol.

Have no worrys watching a nurse draw blood, just the fact me on other end of needle

[bang_bang]

If your scared just use a 18g in the glute.. Get it done real quick :shock:

Edit: not srs

[VPN]

Thanks guys for the good advise....long time lurker appreciate the help.

[Rxx]

If you have friend you trust you could get them to pin you, then you don't have to work yourself up about jabbing a needle into your own leg or ass.

Also, read and re-read Diabolics post.... (Repped!)

[Scottb]

Whats the best method to find the right place to inject on the quad?

[mollswan]

I started off with b12 sub q injections to the stomach and quad with slin pins before i tryed IM.aftter a while of doing that was sweet as with injection protocol had a routine down and just followed it each time in bathroom. locked door layed out my kit on sink sat on edge of bath then injected.

Found it also helped to have a checklist of steps to follow in my kit aswell.

I think it made my first Intra muscular injections a breeze did 25g 1inch in delta and quads.

[Leeroid]

Whats the best method to find the right place to inject on the quad?

U can pretty much go anywhere down the outer part of the quad

[severe]

Whats the best method to find the right place to inject on the quad?

http://www.spotinjections.com

and also, just use them once:

Heat the oil filled barrel under the folds of a towel in the towel heater rail. Nice and warm...

[Scottb]

Thanks for the advise. What is peoples opinions on the best location for a first time??

[mr-universe]

inject it into yr head bro

how many more injection questions do u need answered? lol

quad or glute or delt first time imo

[Scottb]

inject it into yr head bro

how many more injection questions do u need answered? lol

quad or glute or delt first time imo

Why do you even bother looking at these forums? You are clearly an expert at everything, and everyone else is stupid. You don't help anyone out you just drag down any thread that is helpful. And you know everything already so I dont see why you even come here?

[Rxx]

Start with glutes man, if your pinning twice a week then alternate them (left & right). Using a 25g 1" needle you'll feel bugger all.

[mr-universe]

You are clearly an expert at everything

thankyou bro

[Chemo]

Dianabol for prime minister. Good post.

Also.

Try not to think about it too much bro. Last thing you wanna do is be in the bath room for 30mins looking at your quad with needle in hand, wiping down with alc wipe over and over. Over thinking the whole process, stressing yourself out more.

Know how to prep and how to pin.

Then

1 . 2 . 3 . Inject smoothly.

It's not the nicest thing but its not that painful mate. Tell yourself that when you do it. Once you've done it you will understand and be more confident next time.

I like 23s for quads cause its easier/quicker to get the oil in.

I find it more comfortable just getting it over with and I don't shake so much with it.

Good luck man. Let us know how it goes after the first pin.

[Rxx]

I've said it before but ill say it again,

If your really worried about it get a mate that you trust to do your jab.... Once you know that it actually doesn't hurt that much you will find it alot less daunting do your own pins.

Best of luck for your first jab mate

[cruxis]

On quads, I like to stretch the skin and make it tight over the injection site with my thumb and index finger and press down. Then Push the needle in between into the tight area, once in I release the skin and use the freed up hand to steady the needle and aspirate. Then Slowly inject over 20-30s, once done pull needle out fast. Press down with finger over injection "hole". Wait for 30 secs. Feels fine, release, Stand up, then clean up.

It can be nervous and hard to keep steady the first time, Yes I also did stare at my quad with needle in hand ready to go, for a while the first time. :oops:

I "think" stretching the skin seals it better, makes skin surface numb to that initial prick. I use 23g 1 Inch for quads.

http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm

I would use thigh series 2 site is the easiest for the first time.

[Scottb]

Thanks for the advise. Getting the right spot is worries me more then the pinning I think, but will be algood. Will post and let you know how it went