Superdrol

[Max is Winning]

Hey all,

I was taking what I believe to be Superdol for a week (1 pill per day with Liv 52 and Speman tabs) the main chem compound was 2a-17a-di-methyl-etiocholan-3-one,17b-ol. I've stopped because I believed a so called friend of mine when he told me no PCT was needed as he's used this several times 'successfully'. After all the research I've done (and yes, I was bloody stupid for not doing it before taking this) I've seen PCT is cruicial for this PH/DS. He claims although this stuff isn't Superdrol it's the same chemical compound so it's some harsh stuff right? This guy has done a cycle of it before and is using it longer than what I can see most do and no PCT - he uses for 6 weeks and goes 10mg week 1, 20mg week 2-5, 30mg week 6 and only takes speman tabs and liv 52 during the cycle - he says PCT ain't needed at my age (31) and 6 weeks ain't long enought, according to my research on this stuff that is bull. I'm way too concerned about getting Gyno and screwing up my test production without PCT hence the reason I stopped using it. I don't know how this guy isn't screwed up from what I've read. Anyways, hope I ain't done anything bad to myself in using it for a week on 10 mg! I'm really not keen on screwing my test levels permanently or developing bitch tits from this stuff, plus I have no idea how to get hold of Nolvadex which comes up as a must PCT for this stuff again and again. Then if you read enough you see people say there are also negatives in using Nolva, this is way more complicated than I wanted. I guess I'm looking for any help or advice/ experiences from anyone that has used this so if I do try this again I can do it in the safest way possible without paying a price far greater than a few pounds of muscle. Cheers Max

[Seeking]

firstly change username to "Max isnt winning"

secondly, stop whatever your taking and doing. i know nothing about Superdrol or whatever your taking, it sounds like you dont either. im sure if its only been a week you aint gonna do too much "damage"

by now you would have learnt, RESEARCH > mates advice and hear say

lastly i hope you get whats necessary, sorry not the most informative post, just seems like you didnt take the necessary pre cautions before playing with this stuff

[Rxx]

Your mate is a dick!

You really need to do your own research! First thing is first... Oral only cycles are shit, they should be run along side test. Second, if you don't have the right stuff for pct ON HAND BEFORE RUNNING COMPOUNDS then your a long way away from benig ready! At 31 you'd think you'd have more common sense that to just pop random pills and hope for the best... Not something you want to be fucking around with if you don't know what your doing! Orals like superdrol will shut your natural test production down, that's why pct is so important.... To get you back up and running again.

You really need to put the gear down and learn some shit, there is so much information readily available on the internet that there is really no excuse to not educate yourself!

[Max is Winning]

Completely agree with everything said by you guys, I'm a moron for doing what I did and I've given the shit back to him. This guy is a pro bodybuilder too and tried to talk me into not stopping claiming 'you've got nothing to worry about, it's safe as f*ck'. I'm amazed how this guy ain't got gyno and has a libido left??

[Rxx]

A pro bodybuilder? Really?

Maybe he uses it to cruise between cycles

[Terrymundo]

PCT is not essential but is definitely preferred. My natural test levels have always come back even without SERMs like nolva. But everyone is different and you may done damage with your poor decision making. If you can source nolva, use it. If you can't, well you can't. Either way I would go get bloods done to see that going on with your hormone panel. From there you can use follow tests to see how your body has recovered. If you get gyno that is your souvenir from your trip to StupidDecisionTown. if you get gyno (not just your nips playing up) There is a course of treatment that can help otherwise its the snippy snippy suck suck for you or wear your gyno proud (like me)

[rapz]

This guy is a pro bodybuilder too and tried to talk me into not stopping claiming 'you've got nothing to worry about, it's safe as f*ck'.

thats the difference dude, if he is actually a pro like you claim he is, i would doubt he would hardly come off, whats dangerous to you might not be for him. your not him and you could have totally different reactions to different compounds. and if he is a pro im sure he would have access to nolva, ask him to hook you up for being a good mate :pfft:

[Max is Winning]

So this Speman I've got is to keep your sperm production up etc so I'll keep taking them (anyone heard of these, apparently they are hard to get) I sent him a pissed of message telling him where to shove his pills and he said:

mate - i told you its not superdrol, but it is that compound i sent you.. mate.. im telling you you have nothing to worry about.. you aint gunna shut shit down in six weeks and at your age.. cool whatever.

How the f*ck will this guy be okay in 6 weeks? I've stopped at one at a low dose, hopefully this speman has stopped me getting shut down. I would have thought a guy competing at a pro level would have some decent fucking advice to use this shit, no fault but my own though I know. Probably won't touch any shit again, if it's that dangerous why would anyone want to risk getting tits or f*ck with their libido permanently over vanity? Has anyone actually used this stuff BTW?

[mr-universe]

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taking pills then blaming someone else for you taking them

its ur problem, sort it out yourself son

[Max is Winning]

I've already addressed I'm a retard so [MOD EDIT: No offensive comments, please.] Mr Universe - at least I've stopped. Do you use? And if so what makes you so sure you are bulletproof and know everything - one day maybe you will pay the price far greater than a dumb ass that took a low dose for a week not knowing it was a steroid. End of the day I was told this shit was 'teste pills' - Trusted the wrong person, felt something was up so I forced the c*nt for the name, found out it's a steroid and got the f*ck off it quickly - surely people have done more stupid things than that.

[mr-universe]

haha

sounds like steroids aren't for you then br0..... :cry:

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[Murhf]

We have all experimented with our bodies, dn.t be to hard on yourself.

Just curious..why did he say you shouldn.t have to worry about gyno at your age! Did he think you only have problems when your young!

[yeelang]

TUDAC is the best liver protection for methyl steroids. 500mg a day or 1000mg for repair.