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Cutting: Tren vs. DNP

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Hi there gentlemen,

Is anyone here experienced in both and is able to share their opinions as to either of these products? Yes, I'm aware that you have to have your diet in order yadayada kids and their lazy cutting schedules, etc. Done 4 or 5 'unassisted' cuts with various levels of success over the past 5 years and I'm fairly keen to do one this year but to hopefully make it a tad more successful.

Is DNP safe to use with some level of additional test? (for anticatabolic effects). Or is that simply too much strain on the old ticker?

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From what I have read being in a calorie deficit isn't required from DNP as the excess calories are used to increase body temperature of course this means you could potentially cook your insides because of the heat released.

With the information I have read on it I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Clen and T3 might be a better alternative, probably a lot safer as the dosage from DNP if miss calculated can well and truly be disaster.

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Well Tren and DNP are two totally different compounds.

DNP is an uncoupling agent and prevents the proper break down of glucose. The energy is essentially 'wasted' and produces heat instead of ATP. Therefore you are burning more calories and your metabolism is increased dramatically. Trenbolone is an anabolic steroid that is an effective nutrient partitioning agent and probably one of the strongest anabolics you can take. Unfortunately along with the good also comes the bad, the side effects from tren can be very uncomfortable with many people stopping use because they can't handle the anxiety, insomnia, coughing fits, loss of breath and aggression. For most the sides are dose dependent and managable however people with minimal experience with AAS (such as yourself) can find it overwhelming.

DNP can definitely be used safely, the only problem is that it has a very narrow therapeutic window meaning that even if you just take a little too much it has the potential to kill you. Not something to casually mess around with. Search for Diab0lic's post on DNP if you're wanting to know how to use it safely.

However my advice to you is to not take either of these compounds given you have f*ck all experience with AAS. Can you not get lean without DNP? Guys get in competition shape without the use of either of these compounds so why the rush to try them out? My advice if you're wanting to get lean is some test, winny combined with a good diet and cardio. Pretty simple really. Hell even just a little bit of winny by itself will help you retain mass and lose fat during a cut. If you can't successfully cut unassisted why would you even consider DNP?

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ditto, good advice

except would say DNP is NOT safe to use. It can be taken safely for sure, but it's not considered in any circles of BB to be "safe".

You're supposed to weigh yourself and take a measured dose which in turn changes week to week as you drop body-weight. Most just take n-mg for 3-4 weeks, if you take to a pharmacist about DNP they'll say the same thing....measured doses based on persons weight.

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Also agree with you Android re: "safe", though it can be used safety if you know what you're doing and your maths is good. That said I wouldn't touch it! :pfft: :grin:

I guess its in a similar ballpark to Insulin, though modern medicine has given us a much better understanding of insulin use. Again tho if your maths is crap I'd pass on the slin too! I remember a guy ending up in hospital cause he heard 50 instead of 15iu :shock: (I thought even 15 was an overkill!)

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^^ why would a pharmacist know about DNP?

I only knew about it as an uncoupling agent when we used it in stage 2 Biochem, didn't think it was used for anything in conventional western medicine?

oh well I know a pharmacist sells it LOL, he'll only do it if you go see him for weighing and checking.

Doesn't want a stupid guy killing himself which DNP can do with relative ease....P or Coke would be a safer and more enjoyable alternative

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mate no need for dnp on tren. DNP is dodgy at best, why add to the danger by cranking tren. You wont be taking dnp by itself either, unless your stupid or a YOLO guy. You need to take loads of anti oxidants with dnp, and of course an anabolic. Gotta plan that shit out, and while your on it you look like shit.

Last call to action IMO

Here's an explanation on how tren burns fat. Good watch for anyone.

End of the day man I wouldn't say your ready for either.

Look at simpler options, with less harsh sides.

Clen/Albuterol/ECA/duromine, even something as light as greetea.

You gotta remember as well, the beauty of anabolics is that they are extremely muscle sparing, meaning you can just lower your cals, burn fat for free and retain heaps of muscle, re comping your body.

This is the best way to approach it, it will cost you way less in food, substances, and water/electricity.(fans for night time lol)

Have a think about if you really need it man.

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Well Tren and DNP are two totally different compounds.

DNP is an uncoupling agent and prevents the proper break down of glucose. The energy is essentially 'wasted' and produces heat instead of ATP. Therefore you are burning more calories and your metabolism is increased dramatically. Trenbolone is an anabolic steroid that is an effective nutrient partitioning agent and probably one of the strongest anabolics you can take. Unfortunately along with the good also comes the bad, the side effects from tren can be very uncomfortable with many people stopping use because they can't handle the anxiety, insomnia, coughing fits, loss of breath and aggression. For most the sides are dose dependent and managable however people with minimal experience with AAS (such as yourself) can find it overwhelming.

DNP can definitely be used safely, the only problem is that it has a very narrow therapeutic window meaning that even if you just take a little too much it has the potential to kill you. Not something to casually mess around with. Search for Diab0lic's post on DNP if you're wanting to know how to use it safely.

However my advice to you is to not take either of these compounds given you have f*ck all experience with AAS. Can you not get lean without DNP? Guys get in competition shape without the use of either of these compounds so why the rush to try them out? My advice if you're wanting to get lean is some test, winny combined with a good diet and cardio. Pretty simple really. Hell even just a little bit of winny by itself will help you retain mass and lose fat during a cut. If you can't successfully cut unassisted why would you even consider DNP?

lol the safe and dnp don't go together its poision the shits used to make explosives ect

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Well Tren and DNP are two totally different compounds.

DNP is an uncoupling agent and prevents the proper break down of glucose. The energy is essentially 'wasted' and produces heat instead of ATP. Therefore you are burning more calories and your metabolism is increased dramatically. Trenbolone is an anabolic steroid that is an effective nutrient partitioning agent and probably one of the strongest anabolics you can take. Unfortunately along with the good also comes the bad, the side effects from tren can be very uncomfortable with many people stopping use because they can't handle the anxiety, insomnia, coughing fits, loss of breath and aggression. For most the sides are dose dependent and managable however people with minimal experience with AAS (such as yourself) can find it overwhelming.

DNP can definitely be used safely, the only problem is that it has a very narrow therapeutic window meaning that even if you just take a little too much it has the potential to kill you. Not something to casually mess around with. Search for Diab0lic's post on DNP if you're wanting to know how to use it safely.

However my advice to you is to not take either of these compounds given you have f*ck all experience with AAS. Can you not get lean without DNP? Guys get in competition shape without the use of either of these compounds so why the rush to try them out? My advice if you're wanting to get lean is some test, winny combined with a good diet and cardio. Pretty simple really. Hell even just a little bit of winny by itself will help you retain mass and lose fat during a cut. If you can't successfully cut unassisted why would you even consider DNP?

lol the safe and dnp don't go together its poision the shits used to make explosives ect

*yawn*

So is water... Maybe time to stop parroting all the alarmist crap you've read which was written by broscientists who've never taken the stuff and are just parroting the same crap themselves?

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Well Tren and DNP are two totally different compounds.

DNP is an uncoupling agent and prevents the proper break down of glucose. The energy is essentially 'wasted' and produces heat instead of ATP. Therefore you are burning more calories and your metabolism is increased dramatically. Trenbolone is an anabolic steroid that is an effective nutrient partitioning agent and probably one of the strongest anabolics you can take. Unfortunately along with the good also comes the bad, the side effects from tren can be very uncomfortable with many people stopping use because they can't handle the anxiety, insomnia, coughing fits, loss of breath and aggression. For most the sides are dose dependent and managable however people with minimal experience with AAS (such as yourself) can find it overwhelming.

DNP can definitely be used safely, the only problem is that it has a very narrow therapeutic window meaning that even if you just take a little too much it has the potential to kill you. Not something to casually mess around with. Search for Diab0lic's post on DNP if you're wanting to know how to use it safely.

However my advice to you is to not take either of these compounds given you have f*ck all experience with AAS. Can you not get lean without DNP? Guys get in competition shape without the use of either of these compounds so why the rush to try them out? My advice if you're wanting to get lean is some test, winny combined with a good diet and cardio. Pretty simple really. Hell even just a little bit of winny by itself will help you retain mass and lose fat during a cut. If you can't successfully cut unassisted why would you even consider DNP?

lol the safe and dnp don't go together its poision the shits used to make explosives ect

*yawn*

So is water... Maybe time to stop parroting all the alarmist crap you've read which was written by broscientists who've never taken the stuff and are just parroting the same crap themselves?

I reckon the shit is unsafe. Vader is correct! How can you trust that your "underground compounding chemist" has any idea what he's really doing when he's capping the stuff. Imagine if he got the concentrations off by a factor of 10. Likely you'd die! This is just one of the reasons I have yet to try DNP. I don't like putting my life in other people's hands! Especially when there's such a narrow margin for error.

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lol the safe and dnp don't go together its poision the shits used to make explosives ect

*yawn*

So is water... Maybe time to stop parroting all the alarmist crap you've read which was written by broscientists who've never taken the stuff and are just parroting the same crap themselves?

I reckon the shit is unsafe. Vader is correct! How can you trust that your "underground compounding chemist" has any idea what he's really doing when he's capping the stuff. Imagine if he got the concentrations off by a factor of 10. Likely you'd die! This is just one of the reasons I have yet to try DNP. I don't like putting my life in other people's hands! Especially when there's such a narrow margin for error.

Fair point, but if you do have correctly dosed stuff, it can be used relatively safely. I just get bored of the same old "it's an explosive that will cook you insides" crap. Find a good reputable source with loads of reviews and start off with one cap. That's what I did and I am still raw and unexploded (but leaner :twisted: )

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