Riding my bike

[Rxx]

How much weight you hoping go add to the squat by using the suit?

[Leeroid]

Dunno bro, Ill see how it goes, hoping for at least 260. I think Im good for 235-240 with just knee wraps atm so that would mean a 20kg carryover which is pretty modest.

Also got a 44 Katana AS bench shirt that Im gonna try today. I can get it on easily by myself so its not tight by any standards but itll be good to learn in and should still give me 20kgs if i get it right.

[AZIDE]

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[Leeroid]

":17zo0ke8]what is the appeal of lifting more when its only because you're wearing stretchy clothing? srs question..seems kind of stupid to me. kind of like if you had the bar hanging from elastic bands from the roof for all your lifts. sure you can lift heavier weight but is actually elastic potential energy lifting not your muscles..whole concept just seems gay as f*ck TBH, incl. that you look like massive fgt when training at your gym in tight lycra looking sht.

...or are you planning on competing in an equipped PL event where you will be at a disadvantage if not equipped yourself?

Well, you could say the same for steroid use. What's the use of getting big when it's not even your own natural hormones that created those muscles? Sure you still have to lift weights and eat right but it's not your body that's creating the muscle, it's the synthetic hormones you inject.

In the end, I wanna lift the heaviest weights I can and if I can use a piece of equipment to help me do so, I will. But I don't think I'll use it for my next comp as I don't have enough time to learn the equipment.

[AZIDE]

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[Leeroid]

":1z4isjup]

there are parallels but i don't think the two (equipped lifting and steroids) are closely comparable. guess the thing about lifting heavier weights does make sense...appear stronger than you are..and so you can brag about how much you bench to people who will assume you mean raw.

anyway that aside, are you planning on focusing more on PL again?

Yeah its a bad example. But I always mention that its with knee wraps and that it adds about 20kgs whenever I tell peopl how much I squat and if I used suits and shirts, Id tell people that too. I dont like people getting fake ideas of how strong I am, theyll find out if they ever train with me anyway. Obviously I wanna be strong as fk raw

Not really, I mean Im doing a seperate hammie and quad day but apart from that its still a bb split and bb style training. I dont follow any sort of strength template

[Leeroid]

Last night

Chest, back, abs

Bench press

20kg x15

60kg x8

100kg x5

110kg x1 slow as fuark

110kg x1 just as slow

Incline DB press

30kg x10, 4 sets

Pullups

x10, 8, 6, 6

Decline bench barbell

80kg x12, 8

Machine row

x10, 3 sets

Close grip lat pulldowns

x12, 2 sets

External rotations

x12, 4 sets

Situps

x20, 3 sets

Lying leg raises

x20, 3 sets

82.15kgs. Gained 950g in a day.

[Leeroid]

Hamstrings and calves

Sumo deadlifts

60kg x5

100kg x5

140kg x5

180kg x2 (add belt)

200kg x3

Stiff legged deadlifts (belt on)

100kg x8, 4 sets

Seated calf raises

x15, 5 sets

Standing calf raises

x12, 3 sets

Lying leg curls

x10, 3 sets

Standing leg curls

x8

82.45kgs

Still not 100%, the illness still lingers inside me.

Sumo deads were pretty good, I realized I was putting my feet out too wide as if I was doing a classic sumo. I'm supposed to be doing semi sumo. So brought the feet in closer and it was a good deal better. The reps with 200kg were slow though, wasn't very happy. To be fair, it was easier than I would've done it with conventional. Got a massively painful back pump doing SLDLs so went and did calves to let it die down and then finished off hammies. Didn't go too hard as I don't want to make my body shit itself.

Progress pics.

[I Declare War]

Your last set of pics looked better?

[Leeroid]

Your last set of pics looked better?

Yeah, I look pretty bad. I got sick so I must have lost a bit of muscle and gained a bit of water cos my quads look like shit and I look bloofy as f*ck.

[I Declare War]

Your last set of pics looked better?

Yeah, I look pretty bad. I got sick so I must have lost a bit of muscle and gained a bit of water cos my quads look like shit and I look bloofy as f*ck.

yea tell me about it... I've been fighting something for like more than a month now. Keep thinking it's gone and then it comes back.

Hopefully you'll get one of those SG rebounds.

[soundsgood]

":2hj0x9yz]

Well, you could say the same for steroid use. What's the use of getting big when it's not even your own natural hormones that created those muscles? Sure you still have to lift weights and eat right but it's not your body that's creating the muscle, it's the synthetic hormones you inject.

In the end, I wanna lift the heaviest weights I can and if I can use a piece of equipment to help me do so, I will. But I don't think I'll use it for my next comp as I don't have enough time to learn the equipment.

there are parallels but i don't think the two (equipped lifting and steroids) are closely comparable. guess the thing about lifting heavier weights does make sense...appear stronger than you are..and so you can brag about how much you bench to people who will assume you mean raw.

anyway that aside, are you planning on focusing more on PL again?

I have to agree with Azide, I am not sold on equipped lifting, Raw seems so much more me versus the weight as opposed to leveraging with equipment. Sure I use knee wraps (well more knee sleeves) and Wrist Wraps because I am not 20 anymore and my joints are pretty buggered but a bench shirt doesn't appeal to me. I guess you just have to look at it as two different sports.

Sounds like you might have a virus similar to what I had Leeroid. It just hung around for about a month and it killed my training and appetite. I did come out the otherwise better for it though so don't worry you will get better and probably really soon.

[Leeroid]

There are plenty of threads on the internet concerning the topic of raw vs equipped lifting which usually turn into pretty heated arguments. I don't mind either way but raw will always be my priority.

[Leeroid]

Arms, delts and abs

Pullups

x10

Close grip bench

60kg x8

80kg x10, 8, 6

DB curls

17.5kg x8, 8, 6

DB skullcrushers

12.5kg x12, 10, 8

Hammer curls

15kg x12, 3 sets

Tricep pushdowns

x15, 12, 8

Lateral raises

10kg x12, 2 sets

7.5kg x12

Upright rows

40kg x10, 3 sets

Barbell overhead press

40kg x15, 7

Incline DB curls

10kg x12, 3 sets

Single arm cable tricep extension

x15, 3 sets

Preacher curl dropset

Started with 6x 2.5kg plates per side, got about 5 reps with each weight then stripped off a plate down to only the bar. 2 sets

Cable pressdown tricep drop set

About 6 dropsets, 10 reps average. 2 sets

Plank

1min 30secs 2 sets

Lying leg raises

x20, 2 sets

82.6kgs today. Took about 1 hour and a half.

[Leeroid]

Chest and tris, calves

Bench press (arched, touch and go)

20kg x15

60kg x8

80kg x5

100kg x5

110kg x2, these were easy as hell, heaps of speed

Put on T1tan Katana A/S size 44 (1 second pause on chest)

120kg x1, 1 inch off chest

125kg x1, touched chest

130kg x1

135kg x1

140kg x1

150kg x0, went too low I think, got nothing off the chest

140kg x0, same thing, got nothing from the shirt couldn't even move it at all off the chest

Flat DB chest

40kg x10

45kg x6

40kg x5

25kg x15, 15, 12

Incline DB chest

30kg x8, 3 sets

17.5kg x5, left shoulder felt niggly as f*ck so stopped.

Standing calf raises

x12, 5 sets

Seated calf raises

x10, 2 sets

Cable flyes

x20, 10, 10

Tricep extensions cable

x20, 3 sets

83.1kgs today. Happy with how my first time in a bench shirt went. Easy 20kg carryover right there in a loose shirt. I could put it on myself in 30 seconds which is bloody loose.

[Vernd212cns]

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[Rxx]

Man that 140 looked easy! Do it feel like your working the muscle when you have the suit on or does it just spring up?

[I Declare War]

Man that 140 looked easy! Do it feel like your working the muscle when you have the suit on or does it just spring up?

Also, do you have to pull it down to your chest to make it touch? :pfft:

[Rxx]

Man that 140 looked easy! Do it feel like your working the muscle when you have the suit on or does it just spring up?

Also, do you have to pull it down to your chest to make it touch? :pfft:

Don't know if your taking the piss out of my question or not? But was just asking because I was wondering if using the suit is actually working his chest... I understand its a powerlifting tool so its designed to help shift as much weight as possible but is it useful as a powerlifting too also?

(Just curious, not interested in getting one for myself.)

[I Declare War]

Man that 140 looked easy! Do it feel like your working the muscle when you have the suit on or does it just spring up?

Also, do you have to pull it down to your chest to make it touch? :pfft:

Don't know if your taking the piss out of my question or not? But was just asking because I was wondering if using the suit is actually working his chest... I understand its a powerlifting tool so its designed to help shift as much weight as possible but is it useful as a powerlifting too also?

(Just curious, not interested in getting one for myself.)

Nah not really taking the piss. Just stating the facts... some of those suits are so springy that you can't even get the bar to chest level without pulling it down.

The shirt is just as you'd imagine it... it takes a certain weight to push the bar down to chest level, which makes it easier to push back up through to lockout. Sure, the suit only removes a certain amount of weight... so you will be working your muscles at any part of the ROM where its elastic energy is less than required to support the weight on the bar.

Keen to hear Leeroid's take.

[Leeroid]

Yeah I actually had to pull through the last inch or so to get it to touch no shit lol. Bench shirts by design will take most of the stress off the pecs but once the weight gets up halfway the shirt stops helping as much so u really need strong tris to lock it out although u can try maximise the momentum from the initial thrust. So its not ideal for muscle building I'd say but then that's not the goal. I don't really see it being detrimental to ur development ad long as u are doing lots of chest work seperately

[Optimass]

Also, do you have to pull it down to your chest to make it touch? :pfft:

Don't know if your taking the piss out of my question or not? But was just asking because I was wondering if using the suit is actually working his chest... I understand its a powerlifting tool so its designed to help shift as much weight as possible but is it useful as a powerlifting too also?

(Just curious, not interested in getting one for myself.)

Nah not really taking the piss. Just stating the facts... some of those suits are so springy that you can't even get the bar to chest level without pulling it down.

The shirt is just as you'd imagine it... it takes a certain weight to push the bar down to chest level, which makes it easier to push back up through to lockout. Sure, the suit only removes a certain amount of weight... so you will be working your muscles at any part of the ROM where its elastic energy is less than required to support the weight on the bar.

Keen to hear Leeroid's take.

Dont knock it till you try it bro - equipt lifting is more a technical lift. In my experience you dont pull at all but you need to find the "groove" in the shirt (about a 1 inch gap) that allows you to make a touch. Get it wrong and the bar will end up on your face.

Last year I ripped a shirt in half only pressing 240kg ... bitterly disappointed as I was good for may be 245 - 250.

Have gone back to raw lifting as it fits better with bodybuilding and also it would take me 3 weeks to recover from benching (CNS was all over the place).

Its not an easier bench - yes there is more weight on the bar - but the shirt basically stops you from serious injury - but could be the cause of one if you dont have a crew on hand that knows what they are doing.

[Pabs]

I've only tried a bench shirt once. My training partner talked me into using his to see what it was like.

I wasn't expecting the resistance and the different feel of the lift, when it resisted I got a surprise, lost control causing the bar to come forward...and splat on my chest.

Never tried it again. Too much of a wimp I guess.

[Optimass]

I've only tried a bench shirt once. My training partner talked me into using his to see what it was like.

I wasn't expecting the resistance and the different feel of the lift, when it resisted I got a surprise, lost control causing the bar to come forward...and splat on my chest.

Never tried it again. Too much of a wimp I guess.

Should talk to Steak if you get the urge again Pabs - he'd be the first person I'd want to get advice from if I was going equiped.

[Leeroid]

Squat

20kg x10

60kg x8

100kg x5

140kg x5 (add belt)

180kg x3 (add knee wraps)

200kg x2, 2 sets (add Inzer Hardcore squat suit size 32, straps down)

220kg x2 (straps up)

82.75kgs. Well, took me fucking ages to put the suit on. I was exhausted after I managed to pull it on. Didn't really feel that I was getting much out of the suit, reps were slow and niggly. I think I need to descend quicker instead of being so cautious. I'll try again next week. Didn't do anything else cos lower back was getting sore.