I declare WAR!

[futech]

Good looking shoulder workout there mate. Just took some measurements after workout today. Arms 17inch, chest 48. So im deff gaining on this stuff. Weight has hit 111.4 but like i said before not really bothered with weight. It's pretty hard on gains when your 6ft3 so have been hitting the arms twice a week to try and make them into pythons lol. Done dbol on numerous occasions and also at 60mg a day but it's pretty damn toxic. My old man body doesnt really like it. So you not going to be training at usual gym as much now?

[I Declare War]

Good looking shoulder workout there mate. Just took some measurements after workout today. Arms 17inch, chest 48. So im deff gaining on this stuff. Weight has hit 111.4 but like i said before not really bothered with weight. It's pretty hard on gains when your 6ft3 so have been hitting the arms twice a week to try and make them into pythons lol. Done dbol on numerous occasions and also at 60mg a day but it's pretty damn toxic. My old man body doesnt really like it. So you not going to be training at usual gym as much now?

Yeah it was a good shoulder workout, shit just noticed I forgot to record the DB side lateral raises! Good stuff that you're gaining!

I'll be at LM on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday doing cardio / abs and stuff like that.

[Slin_Shady]

have u actually gained any weight at all this cycle u dont even look liek u lift man

[Kiwijuice]

have u actually gained any weight at all this cycle u dont even look liek u lift man

Thats one creepy avatar you got there.

[I Declare War]

oh shit, nose bleed this morning... picking my nose as I wake up and I'm like oh shit what's this. Wasn't a bad one tho. DBol is legit.

Gonna drop the Dbol for a couple of days, then come back in at 20mg/day. Starting with a bit of taurine as well to control the bp

[dannyjay]

oh shit, nose bleed this morning... picking my nose as I wake up and I'm like oh shit what's this. Wasn't a bad one tho. DBol is legit.

Gonna drop the Dbol for a couple of days, then come back in at 20mg/day

lmao u cant be srs ....

[I Declare War]

oh shit, nose bleed this morning... picking my nose as I wake up and I'm like oh shit what's this. Wasn't a bad one tho. DBol is legit.

Gonna drop the Dbol for a couple of days, then come back in at 20mg/day

lmao u cant be srs ....

Unfortunately I'm being honest here. Nosebleeds are something I get from Dbol.

It's actually quite common, google "nosebleeds dbol", and you'll see heaps of guys complain of the issue.

I wish I didn't get them, nosebleeds suck. I never get them when not on gear.

[genetic freek]

oh shit, nose bleed this morning... picking my nose as I wake up and I'm like oh shit what's this. Wasn't a bad one tho. DBol is legit.

Gonna drop the Dbol for a couple of days, then come back in at 20mg/day

lmao u cant be srs ....

Unfortunately I'm being honest here. Nosebleeds are something I get from Dbol.

It's actually quite common, google "nosebleeds dbol", and you'll see heaps of guys complain of the issue.

I wish I didn't get them, nosebleeds suck. I never get them when not on gear.

High bp

[Chemo]

Surely those nosebleeds cant br good bro. Even though it may be common, that sounds like high BP. Do you get it off dbol alone or a low dose cycle?

Do you know your BP?

Don't explode brah.

[I Declare War]

Surely those nosebleeds cant br good bro. Even though it may be common, that sounds like high BP. Do you get it off dbol alone or a low dose cycle?

Do you know your BP?

Don't explode brah.

Yep, it surely can't be good. Naturally my blood pressure is on the low side, never feel hypertensive. I only get it off Dbol (and also other orals like Halo, Anadrol).

I don't know my BP, haven't checked lately, but whenever I have been for a checkup, it's always been normal.

It's possibly related to water retention a bit with the Dbol - more blood volume = more blood pressure. I might try running Adex along side it, haven't been running it because Mast has been taking care of Estro side effects really well.

I'd be interested in feedback from anyone who's managed to find a good supplement that helps with keeping BP in check.

[tomsammce]

Y do u want a supplement to keep blood pressure under control.

How bout another prescription drug lol

[I Declare War]

Y do u want a supplement to keep blood pressure under control.

How bout another prescription drug lol

Tom,

I'm just trying to solve a problem. I'm trying to learn how I can best use steroids to pack on the most mass possible, and learn how to solve the side effects as smartly as possible.

It doesn't matter to me whether the supplement is a prescription drug or not. Anything that is supplemental that can help will do, that's all I'm looking for.

I wish you would stop digging in the semantics of my posts in your immature attempts to discredit me. You were told not to post in my log before by the moderators. I'm going to report your post.

Yours sincerely,

Marty

p.s. I really do hope you re-think your strategy while you are in the sin bin this time. The difference between you and me is that I'm a thinker and you are not - in the end I will always win.

[yeelang]

I try not to mitigate high blood pressure by blocking water retention while on dbol, less anabolic.

Potassium

fish oil

folic acid

garlic

helped me in the past to an extent and are considered the best natural remedies.

I now bulk from 8-10% which has allows me aggressive front end cycles without affecting my bp drastically

[tomsammce]

Y do u want a supplement to keep blood pressure under control.

How bout another prescription drug lol

Tom,

I'm just trying to solve a problem. I'm trying to learn how I can best use steroids to pack on the most mass possible, and learn how to solve the side effects as smartly as possible.

It doesn't matter to me whether the supplement is a prescription drug or not. Anything that is supplemental that can help will do, that's all I'm looking for.

I wish you would stop digging in the semantics of my posts in your immature attempts to discredit me. You were told not to post in my log before by the moderators. I'm going to report your post.

Yours sincerely,

Marty

p.s. I really do hope you re-think your strategy while you are in the sin bin this time. The difference between you and me is that I'm a thinker and you are not - in the end I will always win.

I was leaving u alone until u made a dig at me in the other thread.

U a thinker? Dude your a fucking retard, couldn't think urself put of a sandpit.

U put on no weight and look at the gear u using, then u try to tell me ur a thinker and I'm not.

Lol Iv achieved everything u have and more and I did it at 21 years old. Get fucked little wanker.

[I Declare War]

blah blah blah... I want to get banned

Lets see:

Tommsamce

96kg last reported weight

175cm tall

IDW (Can bench like a motherfucker)

96kg last weigh in today

171cm tall

I'm gaining weight slowly but surely and I'm having fun learning. One day I'll be Mr NZ Tommy

I try not to mitigate high blood pressure by blocking water retention while on dbol, less anabolic.

Potassium

fish oil

folic acid

garlic

helped me in the past to an extent and are considered the best natural remedies.

I now bulk from 8-10% which has allows me aggressive front end cycles without affecting my bp drastically

Hey! Welcome to the forum

That's great advice, exactly what I'm after. If I were to experiment with those items in your list there... which would you start with?

[tomsammce]

I gave u nothing but constructive criticism at the start of this thread and ur heads to far up ur own arse to even consider it. Ur a dickhead through and through I don't really care if I get suspended or banned for saying it.

Good luck with ur herbal diamox goals for 2013.

[I Declare War]

I gave u nothing but constructive criticism at the start of this thread and ur heads to far up ur own arse to even consider it. Ur a dickhead through and through I don't really care if I get suspended or banned for saying it.

Good luck with ur herbal diamox goals for 2013.

From the start you didn't directly address me. You did give feedback, but only in a way to belittle me. That's not something I put up with in real life, and neither on a forum. I'm a pretty nice guy in real life, but I'm also quite straight up and if that makes you think I'm a dickhead, then I couldn't care less.

How about we call a truce and stop being so aggressive at each other? If I say something you don't agree with, just reply to it in a way that wont make me want to punch you. I'd be happy with that. I'll do the same for you.

My training partner, Ronnie, and I want to hear your response

(training partner there hadn't been lifting for about 3 years in that pic, bastard kept a lot of his strength...)

[Pseudonym]

How about we call a truce and stop being so aggressive at each other? If I say something you don't agree with, just reply to it in a way that wont make me want to punch you. I'd be happy with that. I'll do the same for you.

:nod:

[trainlikeafreak]

blah blah blah... I want to get banned

Lets see:

Tommsamce

96kg last reported weight

175cm tall

IDW (Can bench like a motherfucker)

96kg last weigh in today

171cm tall

I'm gaining weight slowly but surely and I'm having fun learning. One day I'll be Mr NZ Tommy

I try not to mitigate high blood pressure by blocking water retention while on dbol, less anabolic.

Potassium

fish oil

folic acid

garlic

helped me in the past to an extent and are considered the best natural remedies.

I now bulk from 8-10% which has allows me aggressive front end cycles without affecting my bp drastically

Hey! Welcome to the forum

That's great advice, exactly what I'm after. If I were to experiment with those items in your list there... which would you start with?

lol ffs i have to say something. IDW why u comparing urself to ppl? tom is talking sense man and his 96kg is a lean 96kg.. also u say ur a thinker well heres a thought y not think about the food u eat and the training u do and stop blaming poor genetics for needing so many mgs to get any growth.. ur genetics arnt that bad. not being a know it all but someone had to say it. take it as u will

[I Declare War]

blah blah blah... I want to get banned

Lets see:

Tommsamce

96kg last reported weight

175cm tall

IDW (Can bench like a motherfucker)

96kg last weigh in today

171cm tall

I'm gaining weight slowly but surely and I'm having fun learning. One day I'll be Mr NZ Tommy

I try not to mitigate high blood pressure by blocking water retention while on dbol, less anabolic.

Potassium

fish oil

folic acid

garlic

helped me in the past to an extent and are considered the best natural remedies.

I now bulk from 8-10% which has allows me aggressive front end cycles without affecting my bp drastically

Hey! Welcome to the forum

That's great advice, exactly what I'm after. If I were to experiment with those items in your list there... which would you start with?

lol ffs i have to say something. IDW why u comparing urself to ppl? tom is talking sense man and his 96kg is a lean 96kg.. also u say ur a thinker well heres a thought y not think about the food u eat and the training u do and stop blaming poor genetics for needing so many mgs to get any growth.. ur genetics arnt that bad. not being a know it all but someone had to say it. take it as u will

lol

[trainlikeafreak]

whats that meant to mean lol

[I Declare War]

whats that meant to mean lol

It means you're an idiot.

I think a hell of a lot about the training I do and the food I eat.

Can you outbench me? no

Can you outsquat me? no

Can you outdeadlift me? no

Tom probably can't either

My 96kg is at least equivalent to his, as I'm shorter. Once I finish this bulk, I'll cut up... everything in stages. Then I'll take 6 months off and come back at it hard again.

You're an idiot. Had to say it again

[trainlikeafreak]

whats that meant to mean lol

It means you're an idiot.

I think a hell of a lot about the training I do and the food I eat.

Can you outbench me? no

Can you outsquat me? no

Can you outdeadlift me? no

Tom probably can't either

My 96kg is at least equivalent to his, as I'm shorter. Once I finish this bulk, I'll cut up... everything in stages.

You're an idiot. Had to say it again

im not a powerlifter...

could u beat me in a BB comp?

[I Declare War]

whats that meant to mean lol

It means you're an idiot.

I think a hell of a lot about the training I do and the food I eat.

Can you outbench me? no

Can you outsquat me? no

Can you outdeadlift me? no

Tom probably can't either

My 96kg is at least equivalent to his, as I'm shorter. Once I finish this bulk, I'll cut up... everything in stages.

You're an idiot. Had to say it again

im not a powerlifter...

could u beat me in a BB comp?

Actually, to be honest... no idea, I could talk shit but in the end it's who shows up the best on the day. Fundamentally, I just enjoy training, and that's all I care about.

[trainlikeafreak]

It means you're an idiot.

I think a hell of a lot about the training I do and the food I eat.

Can you outbench me? no

Can you outsquat me? no

Can you outdeadlift me? no

Tom probably can't either

My 96kg is at least equivalent to his, as I'm shorter. Once I finish this bulk, I'll cut up... everything in stages.

You're an idiot. Had to say it again

im not a powerlifter...

could u beat me in a BB comp?

Actually, to be honest... no idea, I could talk shit but in the end it's who shows up the best on the day. Fundamentally, I just enjoy training, and that's all I care about.

bs training is all u care about lol u just went off about how u look compared to tom etc... u wana be big and strong just like everyone else