Thoughts?

[train_insane]

this cycle looks fine to me.

Im not sure why people discourage the use of anabolics such as tren and insist on using a test only cycle first time around. You will eventually be using tren for "a first time" anyway so why not make it your first cycle. after all, tren is said to be more potent than test and completely different, so the use of testosterone alone isnt exactly going to "prepare" him for tren.

I doubt the effects of a test only cycle are going to be so mind boggling and full of sides that it will put you off the use of any "harsher" compounds such as trenbolone.

agreed .... i used tren for a first cycle too not has harsh as ive read people to say although you get over the night sweats very quick lol

[Donald Duck]

Ha. Seems like we are devided over this issue. Use tren in your first cycle or not?

Seems like just like different workouts and diets, juice also has different effects on different people. The effects differ from individual to individual. That is what I love about bodybuilding. What works for me, might not work for you. :clap:

[DANIEL8]

Ha. Seems like we are devided over this issue. Use tren in your first cycle or not?

Seems like just like different workouts and diets, juice also has different effects on different people. The effects differ from individual to individual. That is what I love about bodybuilding. What works for me, might not work for you. :clap:

at the end of the day its up to you mate, let us know whichever you decide to do!

[tomsammce]

this cycle looks fine to me.

Im not sure why people discourage the use of anabolics such as tren and insist on using a test only cycle first time around. You will eventually be using tren for "a first time" anyway so why not make it your first cycle. after all, tren is said to be more potent than test and completely different, so the use of testosterone alone isnt exactly going to "prepare" him for tren.

I doubt the effects of a test only cycle are going to be so mind boggling and full of sides that it will put you off the use of any "harsher" compounds such as trenbolone.

agreed .... i used tren for a first cycle too not has harsh as ive read people to say although you get over the night sweats very quick lol

Apart from being uneducated on the subject of first cycles, why did you use tren in a first cycle?

Ill post a pic of u next should I..

[musclenz]

What are the general thoughts on the following 15 week cycle.

1 to 15: 375mg test e per week

2 weeks on, 2 off of albuterol

11 to 15: 250mg tren per week and 30mg winny per day

This is a pre contest cycle for a first time user

Your original post said this is a pre contest cycle. This seems to have been turned into a debate about the rights & wrongs of using Tren. If it is a pre contest cycle you do not use TestE for the whole period of time. You change over to shorter esters of compounds & test Prop but there is no reason not to use TrenA in this cycle however some experience with this comound is desirable to see how you react to it & what dose is sweet for you to achieve the required body composition

[Donald Duck]

Your original post said this is a pre contest cycle.

Thanks for taking that into consideration, finally.

Yes. This is to get ready for a comp. Test e as a base with albuterol 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Last 5 weeks will chuck 200mg tren in there and last 6 30mg winny a day.

The tren is to get me that extra hard look and give me a little bit of extra gains over those last weeks. Will have enough test in me by then. The winny is just to dry me out and get rid of that last bit of fat that the albuterol didn't.

Had a few words with some experienced people and they said sounds really good. Now on this site, getting different oppinions.

Again, I am also a firm believer that everything reacts different with different individuals. I am not experienced with this stuff, so am reading alot and asking alotta stupid questions, I know. That's just to get info.

Merci pour l'aide. Nous espérons avoir plus de vous les gars.

[Nathan Jones]

What are the general thoughts on the following 15 week cycle.

1 to 15: 375mg test e per week

2 weeks on, 2 off of albuterol

11 to 15: 250mg tren per week and 30mg winny per day

This is a pre contest cycle for a first time user

If this is your first cycle keep it simple.... 250mg test should be more than enough. No need to complicate things more than you need.

NJ