Fish oil capsules?

[DubstepNz]

Hey i was just wondering if its worth taking fish oil tablets all my mates at the gym take them and recon you need them iv done a bit of research on them but dont know if they are worth taking atm i just use Creapure creatine monohydrate & whey protein in post workout and TestPump pre workout.

[teamfatboy]

Umm - fish oil caps are just a good way of getting good fats (Omega 3s) into your diet if it's otherwise deficient. They're really just calories...

Fish-oil caps are also suggested to get the most effective results from glucosamine and chondroitin - for joint mobility.

Purely my 2c worth...

[DubstepNz]

oh id rather just add tuna and stuff to my diet then lol, thanks

[jimmybro1]

You would have to eat a lot of tuna to get a decent amount of omega 3 especially if it's canned tuna.

[Diab0lic]

Fish oil has been proven to be beneficial for loads of different bodily processes. As mentioned, tuna and most white fish have very low levels of these oils in them. You often see supermarkets, chemists and health food stores doing cheap deals on fish oil, 2 for 1, etc. Basically if you are paying more than 10c per gram you're being had.

I take 5-10g/day, but you don't need to take that much to get benefits. Only adds 45-90 cals to my diet which you can choose to factor in to your totals if you are on a strict cut.

Don't buy the huge tubs of like 400 caps if you aren't going to scoff them within a month or so as they do degrade over time. The oil starts getting cloudy and the caps soften, etc. Go out and get a bottle of 200 and don't pay more than $20

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

Yes you do need Essential Fats in your diet plan, whether you are looking to gain or lose weight it is handy to have. Whether you need to actually supplement with Fish oil caps is up to your personal diet.

Many studies on many different benefits for these : heart health, help mobilizing fat cells, joint support, hormone support .. and you can bite down on the fish oil caps instead of swalling if you want minty fresh breath

If you're counting on getting EFAs through tuna (especially canned tuna) or even salmon then you'd best also check the nutritional labels and count for yourself how much you are actually getting on a daily basis from those. Not sure how much of those fishes you get in each day but wouldn't be surprised if the amount of EFA you get from them is not even comparable to what you can get from a single fish oil capsule.

Fish oil has been proven to be beneficial for loads of different bodily processes. As mentioned, tuna and most white fish have very low levels of these oils in them. You often see supermarkets, chemists and health food stores doing cheap deals on fish oil, 2 for 1, etc. Basically if you are paying more than 10c per gram you're being had.

I take 5-10g/day, but you don't need to take that much to get benefits. Only adds 45-90 cals to my diet which you can choose to factor in to your totals if you are on a strict cut.

Don't buy the huge tubs of like 400 caps if you aren't going to scoff them within a month or so as they do degrade over time. The oil starts getting cloudy and the caps soften, etc. Go out and get a bottle of 200 and don't pay more than $20

:clap: very good advices!

[vracula]

Krill oil is the " new " fish oil , anyone have any input on that?Apparently absorption is doubled and about 500 mg of krill oil is worth 1000 to 1500 mg reg fish oil.

[Diab0lic]

Krill oil is the " new " fish oil , anyone have any input on that?Apparently absorption is doubled and about 500 mg of krill oil is worth 1000 to 1500 mg reg fish oil.

Hard to find unbiased non-commercial articles but I found this

Lipids. 2011 Jan;46(1):37-46. Epub 2010 Nov 2.

Metabolic effects of krill oil are essentially similar to those of fish oil but at lower dose of EPA and DHA, in healthy volunteers.

Ulven SM, Kirkhus B, Lamglait A, Basu S, Elind E, Haider T, Berge K, Vik H, Pedersen JI.

SourceFaculty of Health, Nutrition, and Management, Akershus University College, Lillestrøm, Norway. stinemarie.ulven@hiak.no

The purpose of the present study is to investigate the effects of krill oil and fish oil on serum lipids and markers of oxidative stress and inflammation and to evaluate if different molecular forms, triacylglycerol and phospholipids, of omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) influence the plasma level of EPA and DHA differently. One hundred thirteen subjects with normal or slightly elevated total blood cholesterol and/or triglyceride levels were randomized into three groups and given either six capsules of krill oil (N = 36; 3.0 g/day, EPA + DHA = 543 mg) or three capsules of fish oil (N = 40; 1.8 g/day, EPA + DHA = 864 mg) daily for 7 weeks. A third group did not receive any supplementation and served as controls (N = 37). A significant increase in plasma EPA, DHA, and DPA was observed in the subjects supplemented with n-3 PUFAs as compared with the controls, but there were no significant differences in the changes in any of the n-3 PUFAs between the fish oil and the krill oil groups. No statistically significant differences in changes in any of the serum lipids or the markers of oxidative stress and inflammation between the study groups were observed. Krill oil and fish oil thus represent comparable dietary sources of n-3 PUFAs, even if the EPA + DHA dose in the krill oil was 62.8% of that in the fish oil.

So it kinda looks like they are similar in the real world. If the krill oil is more expensive per dose then I wouldn't bother personally

[liquid_101]

i take flax seed oil (omega 3,6 & 9) - tablespoon every morning and night. a $12 bottle from the supermarket lasts about 3-4weeks

[Diab0lic]

i take flax seed oil (omega 3,6 & 9) - tablespoon every morning and night. a $12 bottle from the supermarket lasts about 3-4weeks

Yeah flax is a good one. Best to buy it from somewhere that keeps it in the fridge though. It's probably not a major until the bottle is opened, especially since supermarkets are probably moving it quite quickly. But such oils definitely need to be kept in the fridge with the lid on tight at home as they degrade fairly quickly with warmth, oxygen and even light. That's why they are sold in black bottles. Don't buy any that isn't.

I love the taste of flax seed oil. Makes shakes or salads taste damn good. It's almost addictive and I end up taking nips out of the bottle...

[Andre01]

i take flax seed oil (omega 3,6 & 9) - tablespoon every morning and night. a $12 bottle from the supermarket lasts about 3-4weeks

When I was using flax seed oil I got told off by a Doctor (and yes a real one as well) who is right into supplements, and I was told that you body has to convert the flax seed oil into the EFAs, but if you use fish oil you get more and your body does not have to do the extra work converting it. Sorry again no proof, just her word.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

i take flax seed oil (omega 3,6 & 9) - tablespoon every morning and night. a $12 bottle from the supermarket lasts about 3-4weeks

When I was using flax seed oil I got told off by a Doctor (and yes a real one as well) who is right into supplements, and I was told that you body has to convert the flax seed oil into the EFAs, but if you use fish oil you get more and your body does not have to do the extra work converting it. Sorry again no proof, just her word.

There is truth to that - Flax Seed does not contain EPA/DHA (which are the ones that provide the coronary support, found in Omega 3) so the ALA which it does contain must be converted in some way. Been a while since I read the study docs but I believe the reason doc prefers you to take Fish Oil caps directly is because this conversion process is inefficient and only seems to occur with higher doses of ALA.

[Pseudonym]

Yeah flax is a good one. ... I love the taste of flax seed oil. Makes shakes or salads taste damn good. It's almost addictive and I end up taking nips out of the bottle...

And as an extra bonus, it doesn't require plundering our oceans. :wink:

[Diab0lic]

Yeah flax is a good one. ... I love the taste of flax seed oil. Makes shakes or salads taste damn good. It's almost addictive and I end up taking nips out of the bottle...

And as an extra bonus, it doesn't require plundering our oceans. :wink:

Yeah I was going to mention that actually. Harvesting krill is tinkering with the foundation of basically the entire marine food chain. At least the salmon is farmed

[Pseudonym]

Farmed salmon sounds great in theory, but in fact it can actually be worse than the wild stuff. Farmed fish need to be fed smaller fish. And where do they catch those smaller fish? In the wild. :doh:

• up to 22kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce just 1kg of farmed tuna
  
• 4kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed salmon
  
• up to 2kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed marine shrimp

http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/blue_planet/problems/aquaculture/fish_feed/

There doesn't seem to be any good way to eat fish, unless you've caught it yourself. I've basically cut out fish from my everyday diet now, although I keep a few tins in the pantry for emergencies.

Anyway, that's enough preaching from me. As you were. :grin:

[Diab0lic]

I didn't know it took 4kg of fish to produce 1kg of salmon but I did know there are other issues associated with farmed salmon

You just can'y win lol. I don't eat that much fish but will have to do some research into what's the most sustainable for the times that I do...

I mostly buy free range swine, and chicken, but looks like I might have to look into free range fish too

[vracula]

Farmed salmon sounds great in theory, but in fact it can actually be worse than the wild stuff. Farmed fish need to be fed smaller fish. And where do they catch those smaller fish? In the wild. :doh:

• up to 22kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce just 1kg of farmed tuna
  
• 4kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed salmon
  
• up to 2kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed marine shrimp

http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/blue_planet/problems/aquaculture/fish_feed/

There doesn't seem to be any good way to eat fish, unless you've caught it yourself. I've basically cut out fish from my everyday diet now, although I keep a few tins in the pantry for emergencies.

Anyway, that's enough preaching from me. As you were. :grin:

another interesting tidbit about farmed salmon

apparently farmed salmon have white meat ,not the pink meat u see in wild salmon,The reason is wild salmon have to swim vigorously against the current current which increases blood flow,hence the pink colour,farmed salmon on the other hand is dyed so that it doesn't make consumers uneasy,salmon farmers choose from different shades of pink just like you would paint your house to dye their salmon.

[Diab0lic]

And they tend to dope them with lots of antibiotics because of the higher rates of disease in the cramped farm conditions. Much higher rates of sea lice and other nasties too

[jimmybro1]

Farmed salmon sounds great in theory, but in fact it can actually be worse than the wild stuff. Farmed fish need to be fed smaller fish. And where do they catch those smaller fish? In the wild. :doh:

• up to 22kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce just 1kg of farmed tuna
  
• 4kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed salmon
  
• up to 2kg of wild-caught fish is needed to produce 1kg of farmed marine shrimp

http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/blue_planet/problems/aquaculture/fish_feed/

There doesn't seem to be any good way to eat fish, unless you've caught it yourself. I've basically cut out fish from my everyday diet now, although I keep a few tins in the pantry for emergencies.

Anyway, that's enough preaching from me. As you were. :grin:

another interesting tidbit about farmed salmon

apparently farmed salmon have white meat ,not the pink meat u see in wild salmon,The reason is wild salmon have to swim vigorously against the current current which increases blood flow,hence the pink colour,farmed salmon on the other hand is dyed so that it doesn't make consumers uneasy,salmon farmers choose from different shades of pink just like you would paint your house to dye their salmon.

Are you serious? They dye farmed salmon?

I rang foodstuff's in Auckland a while back because I found a worm in my salmon and it ended up in a massive conversation about salmon

He said the temperature of the water is what made the flesh of the salmon either a dark red or pink. The dark red was with warm water farmed salmon and pink for the cold water farmed salmon. I may have it the wrong way around. But he definitely didn't say anything about dying them!

[JOSEF RAKICH]

Yes if you don't consume much fish in your diet the fish oil is the way to go, its a good way to get in your EFA's such as your Omega-3's,