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Homeopathic HGH???????

Marcel Erasmus
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Haha. That and other plants. MJ Haha. Nah, serious, I want to know if anyone has used it before on this site. Have read some reviews on the web and about 80% of the people said it is very good.

Homeopathic anything is no good in my books. It's probably a good placebo if you buy into it... that's about all.

Have you read the Wikipedia article on homeopathy?

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We use homeopathy on the farm to treat the cows for mastitis and I know it owrks, because I administer the treatments myself. Have read the wiki article, and yes, it seems like just placebo, but the dilution of the HGH I am looking at is only 30x. That isn't that much compared to the other stuff. I really hope this stuff works, will have to see. Alot of people that have used this say it worked for them. I don't think placebo will have the same effect as HGH. Hell this is tricky for me.

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All homeopathy is nonsense quackery of the highest order. It has no power other than to relieve your wallet of funds. Not only would there not be a single molecule of HGH in there now, there never would have been one in the fist place. It's a scam plain and simple.

If you can't afford real growth then at least try some ornithine/arginine supplementation. Even that has only a small effect (other than the wallet draining) but at least there is science and evidence behind it

eg: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20300016

Homeopathic HGH or HCG (or anything for that matter) is simply a scam

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All homeopathy is nonsense quackery of the highest order. It has no power other than to relieve your wallet of funds. Not only would there not be a single molecule of HGH in there now, there never would have been one in the fist place. It's a scam plain and simple.

If you can't afford real growth then at least try some ornithine/arginine supplementation. Even that has only a small effect (other than the wallet draining) but at least there is science and evidence behind it

eg: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20300016

Homeopathic HGH or HCG (or anything for that matter) is simply a scam

I have seen several people on Homepathic Hcg as part of an Hcg Diet on 500 cals ed for 40 days loosing up to 12kg in body weight without the hunger & anxeity of a low cal diet. Think there must be something in this mix that works.

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Dont' know what website you were looking at, but the obvious giveaway to wild claims that I see on the natural "HGH supplement" websites is that they say how good their product is and then they just explain HGH and the benefits....as if correlating the two (their product, and HGH) was as easy as that!

Reading the benefits of HGH is amazing, and you can soon get lost in all the amazing-ness and miss that HGH is not something that can be extracted from plants, crushed, capped, and sold.....yet

But if your cows respond to it let us know :pfft:

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Wait, is homeopathic GH administered orally?? If so then what a load of horse shit! Peptides like GH, IGF etc are broken down in your gut by both stomach acid and peptidase enzymes. There is no way that a 30x dilution of GH would in any way be able to raise GH levels in your blood.

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All homeopathy is nonsense quackery of the highest order. It has no power other than to relieve your wallet of funds. Not only would there not be a single molecule of HGH in there now, there never would have been one in the fist place. It's a scam plain and simple.

If you can't afford real growth then at least try some ornithine/arginine supplementation. Even that has only a small effect (other than the wallet draining) but at least there is science and evidence behind it

eg: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20300016

Homeopathic HGH or HCG (or anything for that matter) is simply a scam

I have seen several people on Homepathic Hcg as part of an Hcg Diet on 500 cals ed for 40 days loosing up to 12kg in body weight without the hunger & anxeity of a low cal diet. Think there must be something in this mix that works.

Who knows what they actually put in those drops? Sure as hell aint HCG :)

I suspect there is nothing in them worth a fart. Even if it was pure HCG and you drank/ate it, it would do nothing lol.

I have done a PSMF before and was rolling on 1000 calories for 2 weeks and after a few days wasn't hungry or tired. I suspect that someone without significant muscle mass who was very overweight (typical HCG diet user?) would feel similar on even less calories. Combine that with the placebo effect and off ya go.

Placebo effect aside, there is no science or logic behind homeopathy. If you were to secretly swap the hcg drops for distilled water (which Im pretty sure is what they are anyway) no difference would result. The HCG diet works because you eat 500 calories. Thats all there is to it. If I did it I would lose the same weight with or without the "drops"

The drops only came into existence once the original hcg diet went viral. First there was injected hcg which there isnt really any good science to back that it causes weight loss anyway, just a theory and a 500cal diet) then they realised many people didn;t want to pin so they bought out oral hcg. Some of this may have had hcg in it but probably not much. Then they realised they could get away with homeopathic hcg (ie: nothing) and people would still snap it up lol. The homeopathic drops cost more than real hcg for fucks sake.

Exactly the same thing with homeopathic HGH. They just claim it works and so people buy it. It doesn't

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Wait, is homeopathic GH administered orally?? If so then what a load of horse shit! Peptides like GH, IGF etc are broken down in your gut by both stomach acid and peptidase enzymes. There is no way that a 30x dilution of GH would in any way be able to raise GH levels in your blood.

Bro it's not diluted 30 times at all, it's way more wack than that lol

Homeopaths claim the more dilute the preparation, the more potent it is (lol?). They use a method called serial dilution to reduce the amount of active ingredient, usually to the point where it’s unlikely that even a single molecule is left.

They start at 1X (1 part in 10) and range up to (or possibly down to) 200C (1 part in 10^400) but are typically 30C (1 part in 10^60).

1C is usually the starting point for serial dilution. You start with a 1:100 dilution (1C), then dilute some of that 1:100 (2C), and again (3C) and so on. So, each additional C becomes 100 times more dilute than the previous.

At 3C, you’re looking at a one part per million dilution. This is roughly the amount of fluoride in drinking water. So, still at potentially active levels.

At 4C, arsenic would be diluted to the point where it’s reasonably safe for drinking water (10 parts per billion).

12C is about the point where a beaker of the stuff has about a 50/50 chance of having even one molecule of active ingredient....

For 26C you'd need the entire mass of the universe to dilute it to this concentration...

30C is 8 orders of magnitude above 26C so you would need 100 million universes to dilute something to this concentration!

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They still claim that it is to do with quantum mechanics, etc, etc so none of this matters but that is just as bullshit as the above. In addition to all that crap, I doubt any of them even start with any real ingredient, they just fill a little dropper bottle with distilled water and charge $200 for it...

It's complete and utter nonsense lol

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Homeopaths claim the more dilute the preparation, the more potent it is (lol?). They use a method called serial dilution to reduce the amount of active ingredient, usually to the point where it’s unlikely that even a single molecule is left.

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They still claim that it is to do with quantum mechanics, etc, etc so none of this matters but that is just as bullshit as the above. In addition to all that crap, I doubt any of them even start with any real ingredient, they just fill a little dropper bottle with distilled water and charge $200 for it...

Bro, sounds like a valid business model to me. Let's get rich :lol::lol:

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30C is 8 orders of magnitude above 26C so you would need 100 million universes to dilute something to this concentration!

So it is possible then. Sweet. I am off to build a homeopathic stargate. 8)

Perhaps they mean to dilute the water with the product? Not dilute the product with water.

And how can diluting something make it stronger? Oh, stronger is code for profit. got ya! Stargate FTW 30C!

p.s you only have to look at the physiques of these homeopathy people to see that shit aint legit. Anyone with access to it, would take it.

If homeopathy works, then obviously the less you use it, the stronger it gets. So the best way to apply homeopathy is to not use it at all. --Phil Plait
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