eh no burn....damn!

[DrDarkMatter]

hi guys, just a quick question please. I did shoulders last night, and I didnt get any burn today. I did bi's and tri's monday night and I am still hurting today. I dont think I did anything different as far as intensity in either work out session.

I do everything to failure, so I do my 3 sets building up to a set point, lets say for over head press for example set1 22kg, set2 24 kg set 3 26 kg 15 reps everything, even is I cant do 15 I rest until I can go back and finished the 15th and I go as hard as I can, then I go back wards, set4 24 kg set5 22 kg and set 6 I just through on maybe 10 kg to really blow the muscle group out. I try to do this with every set of every exercise. so why am I not getting any burn today from shoulders last night?

I am pretty new to this body building thing, I have always liked lifting recreationally and to feel good but this is the first time I have really gotten when I would consider serious.

here is last work;

Body Part

Exercise Name Reps Sets Track

Shoulders

Dumbbell Arnold Press 15 3 Progress Chart

Shoulders

Barbell Shoulder Press 15 3 Progress Chart

Shoulders

Bent arm shoulder flys 15 3 Progress Chart

Shoulders

Barbell Up Right Row 15 3 Progress Chart

Shoulders

Barbell Shrug 15 3 Progress Chart

Cardio

Stationary Bike 30 min- - Progress Chart

thank you, sorry for the NOT so quick question :oops:

[legacy]

Not sure why some people assume burn/ DOMS signifies a good workout, just as there is no need to train to failure to achieve growth. Stop worrying and just keep doing what your doing, lift eat and sleep.

[DrDarkMatter]

hi Mate, hahahahaha good point but I thought (probably naively) that you need the burn from that lactic acid to be breaking down the fibers so they can rebuild bigger stronger faster :oops: sorry that was the 6 million dollar man, but ya know what I mean?

Doc

[Terrymundo]

IMO burn is no indication of a good workout. You can get a burn holding a 2kg dumbell straight out infront of you which has zero BBing purpose. I always aim for a good pump. A solid pump should be your goal each workout. Focus on squeezing the muscle on each rep, keep the negative controlled an avoid locking out or locking out for too long. Keep rest times moderate as you can deflate if wait around too long but going back into too quick will hinder your strength and the workout can take a nose dive. some people use a stop watch but I go by feel. Each muscle group seems different, quads i always allow decent rest times but back you can hit pretty frequently.

Dont worry to much about being sore in the days following the workout. It always feels nice knowing you did some damage to the targeted areas. I put good size on my arms this year and cant remember them ever being sore.

[DrDarkMatter]

thank you terry, excellent points. I too am a "feel" lifter. I do my workouts slow and use the negative, unless I forget when I get caught up in the work out process lol lol but I do try it concentrate on the group I am working on.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

i was having the same lack of doms with the shoulders but they are definitely growing bigger & stronger so just going with it. most important thing is that you can feel the right muscles working during the workout session

[nemesis]

"you want a burn you can go do a Jane fonda workout" -Dorian Yates

[DrDarkMatter]

"you want a burn you can go do a Jane fonda workout" -Dorian Yates

LMAO! ok I get the point guys, lol

man thats funny, my sides hurt from laughing lol.

[DrDarkMatter]

i was having the same lack of doms with the shoulders but they are definitely growing bigger & stronger so just going with it. most important thing is that you can feel the right muscles working during the workout session

ya me too, I can start to see it in the mirror and feel the growth, thank you mate!

[vracula]

Plus shoulder heal extremely quick, yr preety much using them all the time.

[tomleegolf]

I always aim for a good pump. A solid pump should be your goal each workout.

Pump isn't really necessary either. It's hard to get pumped unless you're doing 15+ reps. When I trained squats, I'd keep the reps below 5 or 6 which meant I'd never really get a pump in my quads. Whereas for my arms, I'd do high repetitions and go for the pump. My legs have grown heaps but my arms are still small. Just a bit of anecdotal evidence FYI

[Terrymundo]

I always aim for a good pump. A solid pump should be your goal each workout.

Pump isn't really necessary either. It's hard to get pumped unless you're doing 15+ reps. When I trained squats, I'd keep the reps below 5 or 6 which meant I'd never really get a pump in my quads. Whereas for my arms, I'd do high repetitions and go for the pump. My legs have grown heaps but my arms are still small. Just a bit of anecdotal evidence FYI

if you can achieve a good leg pump they will grow (along side quality nutrition). I get good pumps on 5-6 reps when the rest times are down. However i will admit that a pump isn't a sure sign of a quality workout. I could get pump curl a can of soup if i repped enough. Given your weights are challenging and reps are kept moderate (15max) on working sets. I also follow up each trained muscle group with high rep (20+) set to push up the pump a little more, its not really for further breaking down the muscle but rather to pack it full and it feels good too.

[DrDarkMatter]

very good information guys thank you, today just happens to be leg day too :grin:

[DrDarkMatter]

maybe I spoke too soon, my traps are pretty sore today lol