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how do high level athletes handle training huge volume regularly in their sport + weight training + whatever other training they do? rugby players for example

obviously a lot are drug tested so that isnt an option for them i guess..

i am finding training as much as i want/should be leaves my body feeling fucked all the time, bearable but wonder how pro's etc deal with it? do you eventually just get used to it?

heaps of sports documentarys lead me to think they are training for hours and hours daily, how is this sustainable?

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If you're not working a full time job it makes an incredible difference. Napping is awesome and it's much easier to nail your diet. Also it's pretty easy to get to bed by 9pm and get solid sleep. It makes training 6 days per week possible without feeling like a smashed badger.

This is referring only to weight training. I'm not sure how well that translates to sustained high-output training.

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as kalidane says, that is usually their full time job so they can apply full attention to it without stress from other areas (having to meet some deadline for some paperwork or whatever).

i suspect many docos tend to over exaggerate exactly how much time people will spend training each day

besides that, the elite athletes are backed by very good nutritionists who will make sure they are eating right - this means very careful attention to detail to pre & post workout meals especially so they can stay at the top of their game.

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besides that, the elite athletes are backed by very good nutritionists who will make sure they are eating right - this means very careful attention to detail to pre & post workout meals especially so they can stay at the top of their game.

As well as massage therapists and other staff.

Also, athletes have built up to that work load over years. They didn't step into the gym/track/field on the first day and manage it just fine, they've built up to it slowly over a long period of time.

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My young fulla has rugby all this week played today, and now has the a game every day until next sunday any tips for recovery for him food wise?? he has had the shower spa and rubdowns

 

Stretch, stretch and more stretching and eat well. 

Muscle tightness will be the biggest thing hindering recovery.

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I'd have gone with "plenty carbs, plenty protein, and plenty sleep". But that's pure bro-science on my behalf.

 

Muscle tightness will be the biggest thing hindering recovery.

Interesting. That one hadn't occurred to me. Can you explain that a bit more, Jimmybro?

 

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obviously a lot are drug tested so that isnt an option for them i guess..

You'd be surprised.

In my opinion most top level athletes use illegal drugs/steroids. Some sports more than others ofc (sorry if this goes against forum rules) 

It's the norm and so many atletes have outed it and said so. Theres heaps of youtube docos etc (not saying youtube = truth).

Someone has to get "caught" every now and then for timing things wrong, or being too obvious or for other political reasons.

I'm not saying they don't get tested or whatever but these guys get paid sometimes thousands or millions to be athletes they'll be clued up on how to time things, if the testing is even 100% legit all the time. 

But yeah. Just my opinion. 

Inb4 shitstorm. 

 

 

 

 

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I'd have gone with "plenty carbs, plenty protein, and plenty sleep". But that's pure bro-science on my behalf.

 

Muscle tightness will be the biggest thing hindering recovery.

Interesting. That one hadn't occurred to me. Can you explain that a bit more, Jimmybro?

 

When I played national touraments for football we where told to foam roll and stretch throughout the day as well as eating well. Mainly simple sugar drinks, which I don't think is necessary if you fuel yourself well enough throughout the day. 

Things like running and continuously taking impacts will tighten muscles as well as causing bursing of the muscle. Their are many benefits of foam rolling. 

http://drbenkim.com/foam-rolling-health-benefits.htm

 

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Most people do not stretch enough, a few ham stretchs before squats is about all I ever see. Iam very guilty of not doing enough...hence a torn achilles a year or so ago, geez they take time to heal.

Question: How much stretch before and after, ie: 10/90. There are so many different views on this.

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Most people do not stretch enough, a few ham stretchs before squats is about all I ever see. Iam very guilty of not doing enough...hence a torn achilles a year or so ago, geez they take time to heal.

Question: How much stretch before and after, ie: 10/90. There are so many different views on this.

I would foam roll before working out but not stretch for a low body workout would probably foam roller of 5 minutes followed by dynamic stretches using bands. 

After a workout would foam roll again followed by static stretching 10 minutes or so. 

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I reckon flexibility is about one of the best things you can work on for your gains and subsequently your body composition. Not to mention the immune/lymph system and peripheral cardiovascular system benefits. 

If everyone spent the useless hours they spend on steady state cardio (which does nothing much for your metabolism or health) on stretching then I reckon most people would be in way better nick. 

Imo you need a full on routine making sure you are stretching all aspects. You cant just stretch hammies every day and expect your low back niggles to go - you probably also have tight ankles, calves, hipflexors, glutes, ITband and adductors as well, or you might make another part worse.. And you can't just stretch for a couple of weeks. You need to do it regularly and on-going - so you need to do it in a way that you can learn to like it... 

I've been designating stretching (yoga) at least 3 - 4 x per week for 30+ mins, and from the last coupe of weeks I've now been doing 10 - 15 minutes before (more flow based) and sometimes after workouts as well, and using a foam roller and tennis ball about once a week. The reason why I can do this (I hated stretching before) is because you make it a challenge or a thing in itself (just like training) and something to work or build on and have goals for (Splits or perfect handstands etc).

In the last 3 months I've gone from being about a foot or so away from being able to touch toes to being able to do a decent forward fold, to be able to touch/grab my toes when my legs are out straight infront of me when sat on the ground, and nearly able to do the splits... Injuries are heaps better and I love doing it. Sometimes there are areas you dont even know are tight - Lots of my issues I think were to do with my side body/ribs/thoracic/diaphragm/intercostal tissue being tight, which most bber would never think to work on. All the core work that is incorporated as well has given me an awesome base for lifting and my spinal flexion during squatting has dramatically decreased... I also think it has helped my immune system, general wellbeing, mental health and GAINS. 

So TLDR: moral of the story - make stretching an actual thing to do and something you need to learn more about,  plan it into your day like a mini taining session. watch/follow a sequence on youtube every day and your brain will soon be filled with stretches to do. It took a while to get into it but now I can do a sequence of hip or shoulder stretches pretty much automatically and can stretch whole body and the specific parts i need to work on in about 15 mins. It was difficult at first to be able to do if off the top of my head but if you practice you'll get there... 

Youtube is pretty much your best friend with this. If you dont think yoga is cool just search something like "whole body stretching sequence (/routine)" and commit to that 3-4x per week, then if you have a specific body part search "Shoulder stretching sequence" - Just find ones you like and do them every day and you'll see the benefits. 

 

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