Looking for mentoring and advice

[chemicalpadawan]

Background: Three young men with between 5-6 years lifting experience each looking to take it to the next level. We have all done some research work on AAS and PCT.

We are all going to run a cycle concurrently and pin up together.

Its a first for all of us so we though we'd keep it simple:

12 weeks

500mg Test-E (twice a week in two 250mg pins) weeks 1-8 and 1g Test-E weeks 9-12

PCT so far is just Nolvadex for 4 weeks post-cycle.

Should we seriously be looking at AI's for that dosage level of test? Are there any rules of thumb when it comes to PCT with respect to test, such as when AI's or HCG become mandatory?

If there is anyone here who has the time to mentor us via email? We are wary of overlooking something we may have missed amongst the details on forums, etc. email is chemicalpadawan@gmail.com

[tomsammce]

U sound abit fucken sus to me mate.

Why would you trust one single person who u have never met to advise u via email.

It would be more beneficial asking your questions on a forum and getting as many answers/experiences/opinions as you can. This way all 3 of you can have access to it also.

Your idea makes little sense to me

[Riccardo]

[Chemo]

first cycle... 1gram near the end is over the top keep it to 500mg

nolva for pct is all good, take it two weeks after your last pin, 20mg a day for 2 weeks, 10mg a day for another 2 weeks.

may as well extend your cycle out to 15weeks just so you use up all three vials, a better option than increasing the dose.

AIs are nice to have but not necessary man, keep it simple for a first time round. you seem like you boys roughly no what you are doing.

Know how to inject?

crazy first post, good luck with your cycle

[chemicalpadawan]

Hahah yes the famous paranoia and trolling of this forum lives up to expectations (not trying to be disrespectful).

The reason why we are asking for direct mentoring is because we are socially isolated from anyone who uses, we literally do not know anyone in this country who does (confirmed at least, we have suspected a few). No, we're not the police and no we're not looking for sources we already have most of what we need and know where to get the rest. We also read on this very forum a thread about 'what you wish you knew when you first started' and several posters mentioned the wished they had a mentor to advise and help them on issues that may arise.

This isn't a sting operation so please, lower your jimmie shields, we aren't here to rustle them.

[Chemo]

Hahah yes the famous paranoia and trolling of this forum lives up to expectations (not trying to be disrespectful).

The reason why we are asking for direct mentoring is because we are socially isolated from anyone who uses, we literally do not know anyone in this country who does (confirmed at least, we have suspected a few). No, we're not the police and no we're not looking for sources we already have most of what we need and know where to get the rest. We also read on this very forum a thread about 'what you wish you knew when you first started' and several posters mentioned the wished they had a mentor to advise and help them on issues that may arise.

This isn't a sting operation so please, lower your jimmie shields, we aren't here to rustle them.

Using memes to infiltrate our roid fortress, how dare thee.

"The reason why we are asking for direct mentoring is because we are socially isolated from anyone who uses, we literally do not know anyone in this country who does "

Where do you live?

[chemicalpadawan]

first cycle... 1gram near the end is over the top keep it to 500mg

nolva for pct is all good, take it two weeks after your last pin, 20mg a day for 2 weeks, 10mg a day for another 2 weeks.

may as well extend your cycle out to 15weeks just so you use up all three vials, a better option than increasing the dose.

AIs are nice to have but not necessary man, keep it simple for a first time round. you seem like you boys roughly no what you are doing.

Know how to inject?

crazy first post, good luck with your cycle

1000mg per week too strong for first cycle? We've read plenty to support that as well but really didn't want to undershoot. We'll each decide if we want to blast it or play it safe.

AI's are not necessary? Been reading too much scary shit about gyno and paranoia over bitch tits is NEVER unjustified... So far we have three packs of twenty pills of aromasin at 25mg each. This was originally ordered for just one of us three, and we are considering going for more. If one was to say use 500mg per week for the entire 12 or so weeks, would AI's like aromasin no longer be necessary, or maybe only towards the end and at half dosage (cut in half, perhaps?).

We know the principles but we are looking for some good in-depth, step by step guides on how to do so.

[chemicalpadawan]

Hahah yes the famous paranoia and trolling of this forum lives up to expectations (not trying to be disrespectful).

The reason why we are asking for direct mentoring is because we are socially isolated from anyone who uses, we literally do not know anyone in this country who does (confirmed at least, we have suspected a few). No, we're not the police and no we're not looking for sources we already have most of what we need and know where to get the rest. We also read on this very forum a thread about 'what you wish you knew when you first started' and several posters mentioned the wished they had a mentor to advise and help them on issues that may arise.

This isn't a sting operation so please, lower your jimmie shields, we aren't here to rustle them.

Using memes to infiltrate our roid fortress, how dare thee.

"The reason why we are asking for direct mentoring is because we are socially isolated from anyone who uses, we literally do not know anyone in this country who does "

Where do you live?

We live in Auckland. Yes, I know there are assloads of geared chaps here but we don't know ANY of them. None of us have competed at any real level in powerlifting (and we certainly aren't interested anymore, and not just because we are set on gearing) or bodybuilding, we have no networking in the community.

[chemicalpadawan]

Another question is on nutrition.

Are there any guides out there to do with nutrition when using? We all have our diets under control, counting calories when both bulking and cutting as well as watching macros.

Are there any specific principles we should follow when pinning up? Is the often quoted 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight still true, or should we be aiming to completely saturate ourselves with protein?

If fat loss is a goal, should standard cutting protocol be followed (500cal under maintenance, high protein, etc?).

[Chemo]

first cycle... 1gram near the end is over the top keep it to 500mg

nolva for pct is all good, take it two weeks after your last pin, 20mg a day for 2 weeks, 10mg a day for another 2 weeks.

may as well extend your cycle out to 15weeks just so you use up all three vials, a better option than increasing the dose.

AIs are nice to have but not necessary man, keep it simple for a first time round. you seem like you boys roughly no what you are doing.

Know how to inject?

crazy first post, good luck with your cycle

1000mg per week too strong for first cycle? We've read plenty to support that as well but really didn't want to undershoot. We'll each decide if we want to blast it or play it safe.

AI's are not necessary? Been reading too much scary shit about gyno and paranoia over bitch tits is NEVER unjustified... So far we have three packs of twenty pills of aromasin at 25mg each. This was originally ordered for just one of us three, and we are considering going for more. If one was to say use 500mg per week for the entire 12 or so weeks, would AI's like aromasin no longer be necessary, or maybe only towards the end and at half dosage (cut in half, perhaps?).

We know the principles but we are looking for some good in-depth, step by step guides on how to do so.

500mg is a good ride, you wont need more than that. Save the gram for your 5th cycle, you dont need anywhere near that much at the moment.

Could use the aromasin at the end of the cycle and through pct stage, at 500mg there not a huge chance that you will develop any serious gyno.

If you think your prone to it, by all means use it.

Not sure about aromasin dosage, maybe a pill eod will keep your estrogen levels down. You don't want to completely kill it off during the cycle though.

You need to go google how to use aromasin for estrogen control.

Nutrition, eat way more protein, test means more protein synthesis which mean more protein goes to use. 2-3g per kg of bodyweight at least.

If your in auks there are plenty of people around to help you.

Doesnt even sound like you need that much help

Go pin, train and eat, youll be fine

[chemicalpadawan]

first cycle... 1gram near the end is over the top keep it to 500mg

nolva for pct is all good, take it two weeks after your last pin, 20mg a day for 2 weeks, 10mg a day for another 2 weeks.

may as well extend your cycle out to 15weeks just so you use up all three vials, a better option than increasing the dose.

AIs are nice to have but not necessary man, keep it simple for a first time round. you seem like you boys roughly no what you are doing.

Know how to inject?

crazy first post, good luck with your cycle

1000mg per week too strong for first cycle? We've read plenty to support that as well but really didn't want to undershoot. We'll each decide if we want to blast it or play it safe.

AI's are not necessary? Been reading too much scary shit about gyno and paranoia over bitch tits is NEVER unjustified... So far we have three packs of twenty pills of aromasin at 25mg each. This was originally ordered for just one of us three, and we are considering going for more. If one was to say use 500mg per week for the entire 12 or so weeks, would AI's like aromasin no longer be necessary, or maybe only towards the end and at half dosage (cut in half, perhaps?).

We know the principles but we are looking for some good in-depth, step by step guides on how to do so.

500mg is a good ride, you wont need more than that. Save the gram for your 5th cycle, you dont need anywhere near that much at the moment.

Could use the aromasin at the end of the cycle and through pct stage, at 500mg there not a huge chance that you will develop any serious gyno.

If you think your prone to it, by all means use it.

Not sure about aromasin dosage, maybe a pill eod will keep your estrogen levels down. You don't want to completely kill it off during the cycle though.

You need to go google how to use aromasin for estrogen control.

Nutrition, eat way more protein, test means more protein synthesis which mean more protein goes to use. 2-3g per kg of bodyweight at least.

If your in auks there are plenty of people around to help you.

Doesnt even sound like you need that much help

Go pin, train and eat, youll be fine

Two to three grams per kg? Or per lb?

Two to three per pound is going to be a damn rough goal to meet, time to commit chicken genocide.

[tomsammce]

Where do you train?

[Terrymundo]

food is the most anabolic thing you can injest.

[chemicalpadawan]

Where do you train?

Central Auckland, in a gym that packs its sardines rather tightly.

And that's about as much as we can say outside of PM's lol.

[chemicalpadawan]

food is the most anabolic thing you can injest.

Most definitely, believe that we know how to eat. We've had our fair share of disgustacunt over the top gainz sessions where food was made extinct.

[denzil]

1000mg per week too strong for first cycle? We've read plenty to support that as well but really didn't want to undershoot. We'll each decide if we want to blast it or play it safe.

AI's are not necessary? Been reading too much scary shit about gyno and paranoia over bitch tits is NEVER unjustified... So far we have three packs of twenty pills of aromasin at 25mg each. This was originally ordered for just one of us three, and we are considering going for more. If one was to say use 500mg per week for the entire 12 or so weeks, would AI's like aromasin no longer be necessary, or maybe only towards the end and at half dosage (cut in half, perhaps?).

We know the principles but we are looking for some good in-depth, step by step guides on how to do so.

500mg is a good ride, you wont need more than that. Save the gram for your 5th cycle, you dont need anywhere near that much at the moment.

Could use the aromasin at the end of the cycle and through pct stage, at 500mg there not a huge chance that you will develop any serious gyno.

If you think your prone to it, by all means use it.

Not sure about aromasin dosage, maybe a pill eod will keep your estrogen levels down. You don't want to completely kill it off during the cycle though.

You need to go google how to use aromasin for estrogen control.

Nutrition, eat way more protein, test means more protein synthesis which mean more protein goes to use. 2-3g per kg of bodyweight at least.

If your in auks there are plenty of people around to help you.

Doesnt even sound like you need that much help

Go pin, train and eat, youll be fine

Two to three grams per kg? Or per lb?

Two to three per pound is going to be a damn rough goal to meet, time to commit chicken genocide.

if in east or south auckland hit me up, another thing bro tbh there is a wealth of knowledge of the net like actually fuckloads

[Chemo]

grams per kg man.

how much you weighing in now?

[chemicalpadawan]

grams per kg man.

how much you weighing in now?

80kg, 88kg, and 92kg. None of us would be over 15% bf, 80kg guy is an EXTREME ectomorph, eats unbelievable amounts of food and never gains anything but strength.

[Terrymundo]

grams per kg man.

how much you weighing in now?

80kg, 88kg, and 92kg. None of us would be over 15% bf, 80kg guy is an EXTREME ectomorph, eats unbelievable amounts of food and never gains anything but strength.

poor dude answer is simple> eat more. dont even eat clean infact try hard not too. i struggled for ages to put on weight. chickn mc'cheeses mate $2 each get them anywhere. easy calories. Having a protien shake? throw some dextrose in there. just get those calories in!!!!! be creative

[kiwicannon]

Background: Three young men with between 5-6 years lifting experience each looking to take it to the next level. We have all done some research work on AAS and PCT.

We are all going to run a cycle concurrently and pin up together.

Its a first for all of us so we though we'd keep it simple:

12 weeks

500mg Test-E (twice a week in two 250mg pins) weeks 1-8 and 1g Test-E weeks 9-12

PCT so far is just Nolvadex for 4 weeks post-cycle.

Should we seriously be looking at AI's for that dosage level of test? Are there any rules of thumb when it comes to PCT with respect to test, such as when AI's or HCG become mandatory?

If there is anyone here who has the time to mentor us via email? We are wary of overlooking something we may have missed amongst the details on forums, etc. email is chemicalpadawan@gmail.com

Keep things as simple as possible mate.

If you havent used AAS before i suggest as others here will x2 250mg Test E pr week is more then sufficient, 1grm is alot for an AAS noob as you dont as yet know how your body will react in terms of sides.

Study "frontload OR kickstart cycle"

An oral like Dianabol is perfect for this.

PCT for this cycle is standard mandatory....goodluck finding HCG bro.

Doesnt need to be said BUT..collect ALL your PCT and cycle meds before even thinking about pinning.

Good luck guys and...may the sauce be with you.

[chemicalpadawan]

grams per kg man.

how much you weighing in now?

80kg, 88kg, and 92kg. None of us would be over 15% bf, 80kg guy is an EXTREME ectomorph, eats unbelievable amounts of food and never gains anything but strength.

poor dude answer is simple> eat more. dont even eat clean infact try hard not too. i struggled for ages to put on weight. chickn mc'cheeses mate $2 each get them anywhere. easy calories. Having a protien shake? throw some dextrose in there. just get those calories in!!!!! be creative

Oh hell yeah mate, Chickn mc'cheese is our JAM, many a night has been spent post working out, blazed out of our fucking skulls jamming down those cheap little bastards. I just wish they still had the mcdouble for two bucks, 30g protein for TWO BUCKS, GHAAAAAAINZ.