First Cycle, Help Needed

[Ignite]

Hi Guys - I am in the process of putting together my first cycle, i would much rather use Test E but can only source Sus 250. Therefore i will only be using sus 250 2 x a week(125 a pin). Monday Morning & Thursday Night will be my pinning times, will also be using a 21 to draw and 23 to pin.

For PCT ill be running both Clomid and Nolva 3 weeks after my last injection, doses will look like this;

Clomid 100/50/50/50

Nolva 40/20/20/20

I also have a few questions, is there any harm in upping the doses of both the clomid and nolva? ie instead of running the above pct could i run,

Clomid 100/100/100/50

Nolva 40/40/40/40.

Should i also have an AI on hand incase of any gyno symptoms or could i combat that with Nolva effectively?

Sus 250 at 250 a week, will this produce some solid gains if my diet & training is sound?

Cheers for your time!

[Chemo]

That nolva dose seems a bit high for a first cycle, 20 20 10 10 should be sufficient. MNZ posted a great article about some down sides of SERMS

(Nolva & Clomid) so less is more regarding serms.

AIs are great to control estrogen, and help kickstart natural production but its a nice to have substance depending on your budget.

Nolva will block the accumulation of gyno in that PCT period but it wont control your estrogen levels, thats what an AI is for. I don't think you'll have any problems on your proposed dose.

250 a week will be some great gains compared to natty, no harm going up to 500 though too.

How long you planning to ride that bicycle for man?

[Ignite]

That nolva dose seems a bit high for a first cycle, 20 20 10 10 should be sufficient. MNZ posted a great article about some down sides of SERMS

(Nolva & Clomid) so less is more regarding serms.

AIs are great to control estrogen, and help kickstart natural production but its a nice to have substance depending on your budget.

Nolva will block the accumulation of gyno in that PCT period but it wont control your estrogen levels, thats what an AI is for. I don't think you'll have any problems on your proposed dose.

250 a week will be some great gains compared to natty, no harm going up to 500 though too.

How long you planning to ride that bicycle for man?

Thanks for that, do you have a link to MNZ post on Serms? Cant seem to find it with the search button.

Will be on cycle for 10-14 Weeks, have definantly dialled in 10 but will go upto 14 if im feeling alright, want to go on feel more than anything?

And yeah, i think i will get my hands on a Ai! i was leaning towards getting one just to be safe and i think it would probably be best! Thanks for the reply mate!

[Chemo]

Sorry and credit to Daz too, who actually brought up the cautionary advice!

Nolva does stimulate LH Chemo, even though Clomid is weaker than Nolva at blocking, it is believed to be quicker at bringing HPTA back to balance. Both are commonly used during PCT. It binds to different receptors than Nolva. There is a lot of debate on this, but until there is solid proof, it may be prudent to include this in your PCT.

Interesting scary article on Nolva + Clomid:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/bl ... -side.html

and from MNZ

Interesting article done 1998 about DES & Tamoxifen. Warning do not read if on PCT with Nolvadex

http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html

Lengthy reads, but worth it if your in this for the long term.

In summary

-only use what you need to, they can be detrimental to your overall health

-AIs are usefull for controlling estrogen before combating estrogen syptoms with SERMS

Enjoy lol