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Luigi

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Alright so been a long time between drinks but am looking at doing another cycle.

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Weeks 1-4 : 30mg dbol daily

Weeks 1-20 : 400mg test e/week

Weeks 1-10: 300mg deca /week

Weeks 12-14/16-18 : 80-120mcg clen/day

Weeks 22-24 : Nolva on the ready..... if i come off.....

Before im asked, the test is dosed at 400mg/ml hence the 400 instead of 500.

Have trained for a while, haven't used gear for a while too so expecting good gains.

Weights sitting at 96kg midday weight atm. bodyfat around 12%.

Wanting to use deca for first part of cycle as joints have been giving me a bit of grief lately and want to try smash some heavy weight.

Clen in the second bit as its summer, and wanting to look good on the beach of course. Will be trying to eat as clean as possible but with a surplus in calories . So will use the clen to get shredded at end of cycle while keeping the size from hitting the heavier weights earlier on..

Any questions or alternatives someone can recommend ?

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Would suggest you keep Deca around half of the Test dose. You will have no real sides like that.

you mean do 400 test 200 deca right? is the reasoning just to keep the dose low, or is it just the 2:1 ratio...like would 600 test 300 deca be fine too?

and lol at using 400mg/week because the test is 400mg/ml.

pin 0.7ml every 4 days if you want ~500mg (490mg)/week

Thanks for the maths lesson , btw 500mg week is more like 360mg week ;)

Was keeping it at 400 because yea its easy doing .5ml twice a week, and dont see the point of doing more if i can grow off that. would do less test if i wasnt running deca.

That looks confusing as f*ck

How so ?

Would suggest you keep Deca around half of the Test dose. You will have no real sides like that.

Isnt 200 on the low side for deca though ? i heard 300mg is sort of the sweet spot that you get to see all of the benefits of it at ? if it means i need to run 600mg test then so be it just wanting to get the most out of the deca to be honest. What dose have you found worked for you in the past ?

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A mate is running only 100mg/wk of deca with his test, just to help joints, and since week 4 has stopped his antiflams as the medicinal purpose is working. I run 300 with 500 test e. liking the look, for sure.

I realise you intend to use it for its anabolic effect as well as its joint help, but even low doses work well in combos.

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Alright so been a long time between drinks but am looking at doing another cycle.

Looking at

Weeks 1-4 : 30mg dbol daily

Weeks 1-20 : 400mg test e/week

Weeks 1-10: 300mg deca /week

Weeks 12-14/16-18 : 80-120mcg clen/day

Weeks 22-24 : Nolva on the ready..... if i come off.....

Before im asked, the test is dosed at 400mg/ml hence the 400 instead of 500.

Have trained for a while, haven't used gear for a while too so expecting good gains.

Weights sitting at 96kg midday weight atm. bodyfat around 12%.

Wanting to use deca for first part of cycle as joints have been giving me a bit of grief lately and want to try smash some heavy weight.

Clen in the second bit as its summer, and wanting to look good on the beach of course. Will be trying to eat as clean as possible but with a surplus in calories . So will use the clen to get shredded at end of cycle while keeping the size from hitting the heavier weights earlier on..

Any questions or alternatives someone can recommend ?

Sorry read it wrong. I don't like Dbol makes me wretch and get a sore gut.

Do your balls shrink while on? mine used to and then I started using HCG it's really good stops them shrivelling up and you don't get testicular pain if your prone to it.

You can do: 500iu once a week / or 2000iu spread over the week / or upon coming off if you havn't used it during and your FSH and LH isn't back to normal you can be quite aggressive and use 2000iu every two days for a total of nine shots-Don't flame me for this last comment, it was taken from an Endocrinoligists findings on HCG.

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^ lol 20 weeks too long jfc....

never too long to be on test imo

What abour permanent shutdown?? Surely when your nuts turn off for too long they may not turn back on very easily???

The way around that issue is to stay on. I have heard.

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^ lol 20 weeks too long jfc....

never too long to be on test imo

What abour permanent shutdown?? Surely when your nuts turn off for too long they may not turn back on very easily???

The way around that issue is to stay on. I have heard.

All good for the people who are done with having kids. Not so good for those still wanting them..

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Have decided to go a slightly different route. Opting for sus 250 over test /. And thinking of swapping the dbol for anavar, thoughts ? in b4 anavar for girls dbol for guys. Which is better for strength gains ?

Not interested in using the anavar to 'lean out' or any of that bs as diet will do that purely interested in it for strength gains and not as harsh on the liver as dbol.

Obviously i am gearing it more to strength training what i do need some good advice on is a solid split to run to make the most of the gear .

Oh and not keen to do tren or anything yet.

Will be keeping a log / diet / etc. /.\

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That cycle looks all good, keeping the deca to half the test dose is an individual thing. Some males can run deca alone and have no problems... Cricket bowlers do it all the time.

I would always keep the test slightly higher but doesn't needs be double

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Sus250 is test

and dbol will give you greater strength gains than anavar

oops I ment sus over enanthate. 30mg dbol day all good?

30mg is all good, but I found 40mg just right. Over that and I was too swollen when working out. When I did it, it about 3/4 way through a cycle. Just when I thought I couldn't get any stronger, I did...

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