Thoughts on Zyzz

[Donald Duck]

I know it is late, very late, but just wanna give my opinion on this guy aswell.

If you have done enough research about this guy, you would have seen that genetically he would not have been able to achieve naturally what he did in such a short time. I know he is not big, but the definition he had is very very hard to get if you are a skinny bitch.(which he was, he said so himself)

Now the most interresting thing for me is that he says that his gains is all thanks to his diet, the CKD. I have experience with this diet and I can promise you that you will not go from being the pack 'n save stick man to mr aesthetic wit that. It is something that just cuts fat.

He was not the brightest bulb in the shop and if he was natty, I am a pregnant nun. I reckon he is overrated and a bad influence on kids.

[AgentOrange]

He was not the brightest bulb in the shop and if he was natty,

Oh the irony. :?

[tomsammce]

He was not the brightest bulb in the shop and if he was natty,

Oh the irony. :?

Also trying to import mt2 is a good influence for kids

[genetic freek]

Get a life, stop digging up old threads.

[tomleegolf]

Natty or not, I am mirin

[Donald Duck]

:banging:

This thread was before I arrived on this site. Stop being fucking assholes.

[zombietraficker]

Those were truly the words of wisdom, well said mate

Depends how you look at him, or the influence he had on promoting steroid use from a young age. The HPTA system is not developed to handle a supra-physiological dose of androgens, much less a normal baseline production of androgens. Zyzz used to use that same argument a couple years back. Look how well that philosophy worked out for him. You'll rarely see studies on why steroids are bad for developing teens because nobody would be foolish enough to perform such an experiment when the conclusion is relatively obvious. When you have sets upon sets of people complaining that they used Dbol at 15 and now can't get an erection at 23, it's still an anecdote, but it's far from broscience. When you start drinking alcohol when you're 13, the degree to which it harms to liver is amplified because that organ isn't even developed yet. Same idea. The rate at which our bodies mature is established from birth, and even before then. If you screw with hormone ratios early on, you are playing with fire.

Even if steroids weren't bad for young people and everything ended up alright, it would be a waste of time. Nobody should have a problem making gains when they're in their late teens and early 20's. Being that young and having cells that healthy and strong is already akin to being on a mild cycle anyway. Food is simply the missing part of the equation. 95% of people you see in your gym can't eat worth a f*ck and its exactly why they train hard yet they look the same everytime you see them.

Also, the whole "Test drops after the peak in your 20's" isn't really true. An average 30 year old will have a baseline free T level that is usually equal to or even more than a 20 year old. Only difference is that the former has finished his pubertal development.

Ideally, one should begin training around age 16 and follow that continuous path for a solid decade before getting on, but Zyzz chose a different path.