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Yip Pseud thats exactly what I am saying. Obviously you wouldn't do this day in and day out and would tend to do this type of training on muscle groups that respond better to low rep training i.e. those with a higher amount of type II fibers. But would still work them into a training cycle for most large muscle groups.

I would start a training cycle with higher rep stuff in the conventional range for hypertrophy up to about 15 reps. As you progress you work in more of the low rep stuff but the key is to keep the overall workout volume still high.

So with all this highly advanced training methods, extreme fibre type specific hypertrophy your legs must be something to behold.

Would you like to show us all a photo Riccardo? just interested in seeing the results based on training this way :wink:

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Yip Pseud thats exactly what I am saying. Obviously you wouldn't do this day in and day out and would tend to do this type of training on muscle groups that respond better to low rep training i.e. those with a higher amount of type II fibers. But would still work them into a training cycle for most large muscle groups.

I would start a training cycle with higher rep stuff in the conventional range for hypertrophy up to about 15 reps. As you progress you work in more of the low rep stuff but the key is to keep the overall workout volume still high.

So with all this highly advanced training methods, extreme fibre type specific hypertrophy your legs must be something to behold.

Would you like to show us all a photo Riccardo? just interested in seeing the results based on training this way :wink:

Cmon mcmass... superior training knowledge, superior nutrition knowledge and ummmm assumed drug use do not always lead to superior gains.....

Superiority complex yes, superior gains.... no

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha couldn't help it.

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come on Harry you're doing it all wrong...i mean just look at yourself in the mirror ... oh gawd :naughty:

Uhhhh AGAIN never said he was doing it wrong :roll: if hes such a big lad then I have no doubt that what he does works. But it also doesn't mean that his opinion is the be all and end all. Why do you think Kevin English, Jay, Phil, Ed Nunn etc etc are trained by Hany Rambod? Someone half their size. Not claiming to be Hany but just trying to point out that just because someone is big doesn't mean they know everything.

srs, this is just nonsense.

The only way a set of 12 reps will ever have the same effect as 1 rep done 12 times is if you use the same weight, and between each of the reps you rest as long as the guy doing 1 rep 12 times....therefore, they're doing the freak'n same thing...1 rep, 12 times.

Hilarious claims.

This is pretty much what I've been saying the whole time. One protocol I use is to use close to 1RM and perform 1 rep per minute for 10mins.

Obviously you are going to use more weight because you are only performing one rep per set. You get more hypertrophy induced from vascular occlusion with the high rep set but also lower reps with heavier weight induce more myotrauma.

Let's take your claim seriously though Ricarrdo.

Let's say 50 reps done same as 1RM rep down 50 times. Do you think that equates to the same result? Really? I think you have to say yes even though the light-as weight will clearly not have the same effect as the 1RM weight on the muscle.

You are completely losing sight of what I am saying and what my argument has been all along. Every time I make an argument you build it up to be something its not. I clearly stated that my comment about 3x10=10x3 be taken in the context of a training cycle and that fiber type also should influence rep schemes. I also mentioned how both high and low reps should be incorporated into a training cycle and that volume must also be accounted for. I'm gonna end it here because we are going round in circles. If you don't like a training method then don't do it, simple as that. No need to have a cry coz not everyone wants to copy what you do.

But you might know more than we do, so let's explore...

Let's say you're a natty Ricarrdo, you would grow so slow how would you even know some type of training produces a certain result taking all other factors out of the equation.

You simply can't.

It's just that an enhanced guy adding a kg or two of mass every week does have an idea of what produces a result given he/she only does a body part once a week nothing grows for no reason or no stimulation.

If you're adding a kg in a week you know what did it and you know where it affected the growth.

Yeah but the factors helping them achieve that growth are different to a natty guy. Sorry but they aren't the same. They just aren't. One has supraphysiological amounts of testosterone in his body the other doesn't. One has a higher tolerance to volume and can train harder/more frequently. Enhanced training isn't completely irrelevant to natty training but there is a big difference.

Oh...sorry Ricarrdo I jumped to a conclusion that you were a natty. Don't have to answer that was just pointing out what an enhanced guy experiences vs a natty in terms of feedback or results for a given effort.

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So with all this highly advanced training methods, extreme fibre type specific hypertrophy your legs must be something to behold.

Not really no, but they would be at least on par with someone training with a traditional body building routine for as long (or short) as I have everything else being equal. Which is was my whole point to begin with. And no they aren't highly advanced trainign methods, walk into any weightlifting gym and you will see similar styles of training. I would say most people inadvertently end up training in a fiber type specific manner anyway as they autoregulate. I just feel people should be more aware of it.

Would you like to show us all a photo Riccardo? just interested in seeing the results based on training this way :wink:

Cmon mcmass... superior training knowledge, superior nutrition knowledge and ummmm assumed drug use do not always lead to superior gains.....

Superiority complex yes, superior gains.... no

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha couldn't help it.

Lol whos the one with the superiority complex? the guy that makes a suggestion on a message board or the guy who is too butthurt to accept people train differently to him? Your sarcasm and bitchiness almost reminds me of a woman. Did someone forget to take their arimidex?

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No-ones crying Ricarrdo.

You're just hearing feedback from people that don't agree with you and quite clearly ... you don't like that and are very defensive about it.

To the point of putting people down as either idiots or feminine that's all. Not the best way to get your point across but your point is so hard to swallow given it is so wrong....that's all

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So with all this highly advanced training methods, extreme fibre type specific hypertrophy your legs must be something to behold.

Not really no, but they would be at least on par with someone training with a traditional body building routine for as long (or short) as I have everything else being equal. Which is was my whole point to begin with. And no they aren't highly advanced trainign methods, walk into any weightlifting gym and you will see similar styles of training. I would say most people inadvertently end up training in a fiber type specific manner anyway as they autoregulate. I just feel people should be more aware of it.

Would you like to show us all a photo Riccardo? just interested in seeing the results based on training this way :wink:

Cmon mcmass... superior training knowledge, superior nutrition knowledge and ummmm assumed drug use do not always lead to superior gains.....

Superiority complex yes, superior gains.... no

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha couldn't help it.

Lol whos the one with the superiority complex? the guy that makes a suggestion on a message board or the guy who is too butthurt to accept people train differently to him? Your sarcasm and bitchiness almost reminds me of a woman. Did someone forget to take their arimidex?

Don't be mad man, just ummmmmm stop saying ridiculous things. The truth of it is we probably train very similarly from day to day.

I am quite feminine, maybe I should take arimidex... and my comprehension isn't as good as yours.... who knows man. Can we hug and make up?

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No-ones crying Ricarrdo.

You're just hearing feedback from people that don't agree with you and quite clearly ... you don't like that and are very defensive about it.

To the point of putting people down as either idiots or feminine that's all. Not the best way to get your point across but your point is so hard to swallow given it is so wrong....that's all

Lol its more the other way round, I am all for feedback and discussion. However when I try to explain my reasoning all I get is sarcasm and bitchiness, you guys got personal first. Not just here but in the meal frequency thread also. I'm sorry but I thought that was the whole point of this forum? to share information. Stop saying something is wrong or dismissing it because its not what you do. And if you genuinely believe its wrong, say why you think so and leave it at that. y so mad?

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And harry I would hug you but apparently you're 110kg and lean so I might end up feeling like the feminine one (no homo)

Not apparently.. I am. It's ok man I will shave so you don't get stubble rash.

I don't think I got bitchy to be honest. I am happy making personal comments because I personally support everything I say. I am very very transparent in what I do and how I do it, I don't hide behind an alias and I know a lot of the guys on here personally. Hell I have pics and vids and Harry is actually my name lol sure that's my choice but ummm just saying I am transparent. I don't make ridiculous statements and I don't tell people they are stupid or that they have issues managing their femininity because that's bitchy ha ha ha ha what I did say is you say stupid things sometimes and I think I said I might see you and think you are skinny. Turns out I did and ummmm to me you are.

Clearly I don't like a lot of the things you write, but I will say that you often contribute some great information and a different viewpoint from those of us old school grunting gorillas so that the readers can make their own choices about the issues discussed. It does seem to me that you will argue just for the sake of argument and when questioned you will start with the insults. That's fine by me man, it actually cracks me up you get so worked up about it.

I am not ever questioning your intelligence, just your application of ideas.

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No-ones crying Ricarrdo.

You're just hearing feedback from people that don't agree with you and quite clearly ... you don't like that and are very defensive about it.

To the point of putting people down as either idiots or feminine that's all. Not the best way to get your point across but your point is so hard to swallow given it is so wrong....that's all

f*ck your a homo!

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No-ones crying Ricarrdo.

You're just hearing feedback from people that don't agree with you and quite clearly ... you don't like that and are very defensive about it.

To the point of putting people down as either idiots or feminine that's all. Not the best way to get your point across but your point is so hard to swallow given it is so wrong....that's all

f*ck your a homo!

Articulate as always.

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Well at 96kg @6' natty I would hardly call myself skinny. But I guess that's your opinion. I just have a problem with you saying that in an attempt to disqualify my opinion.

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my statements aren't ridiculous and always backed up by some reasoning. Its cool that you don't agree but when taken a snipe at I will respond in kind :)

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Well at 96kg @6' natty I would hardly call myself skinny. But I guess that's your opinion. I just have a problem with you saying that in an attempt to disqualify my opinion.

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my statements aren't ridiculous and always backed up by some reasoning. Its cool that you don't agree but when taken a snipe at I will respond in kind :)

Ok well it's perspective isn't it. And ummm Natty? Ok man.

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No-ones crying Ricarrdo.

You're just hearing feedback from people that don't agree with you and quite clearly ... you don't like that and are very defensive about it.

To the point of putting people down as either idiots or feminine that's all. Not the best way to get your point across but your point is so hard to swallow given it is so wrong....that's all

f*ck your a homo!

Losers hate winners :pfft:

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Riccardo, how do you define 'powerbuilder'?

Lol I dunno tbh, I guess it just defines me better than a straight BB or PL tag. I started out powerlifting competed at nationals and still enjoy it but also like bodybuilding and incorporate both styles with a bit of weightlifting into my training.

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Riccardo, how do you define 'powerbuilder'?

Lol I dunno tbh, I guess it just defines me better than a straight BB or PL tag. I started out powerlifting competed at nationals and still enjoy it but also like bodybuilding and incorporate both styles with a bit of weightlifting into my training.

Sounds good. Now that we know what you look like and that you are 6 foot tall (no homo), what are your best powerlifts?

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