bicep shape when rested

[maccaz]

I saw a post a while ago on here, cant remember who by or where, but on how to target different aspect of bicep shape, am starting to get a decent peak but still look like shit when rested/not flexed, keen for get them bigger at rest.

What exercises can I use to work towards this, or is it just the way they are shaped and nothing I can do?

[Shutupandsquat]

It was either me or HarryB that you saw the post from. I learned it from him, so either way, it was from Harry.

The bicep peak can be targeted by beginning with isolation movements, such as preacher curls and concentration curls. You can basically follow it up by any other movement you want, but you should probably throw in a second isolation movement in there.

I know it targets the peak, because when I do isolation movements, I feel like my skin around the bicep is tearing.

[teabz]

wide grip barbell curls

one handed preacher curls

theese target the lower bicep thus improving peak

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

As the guys above have said, the peak is all about building up the underlying muscle (Brachialis).

Regarding biceps looking hot stuff even while rested, it's called 'Muscle Tonus' - that thread you were looking for is probably : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15263

TinyTraps covered some info about it in that thread.

[Luigi]

Well for me I take the shortest route to get big arms.

So Triceps are 23 of the Arm so I do Arms on one day they get 2/3 of the exercises, or I do Triceps twice a week. One workout is heavy mass builder stuff like presses, skullcrushers finihsing off with cable pushdowns, and the other workout is pushdowns of every description lighter weight blood-pumping, overhead stuff for the stretch etc.

For biceps there's two sizes, big peak and big at rest. Big peak is all about curls etc u know that. big at rest is lower bicep like preacher curls, incline dumbbell curls with arms going to fully outstretched position. Do the lower bicep and the peak curls heavy, and finish with a pump

When or if you go on cycle next, pin your goodness into the lower bicep and the tricep an hour before training. By watered-down gear or lower mg/ml so you can put at least 2ml into each and you'll get the most amazing stretch and pump that will hold shape until the next workout.

Triceps, triceps, triceps

[PeterDolan]

Note:

You can target the bicep peak with certain exercises but some people genetically have a flat peak and try as you may, there ain't shit you can do to change that

[tomsammce]

SEO's such as syntherol etc are the only things that can change the shape of your muscle.

a muscle can only either get bigger or smaller... it cant change its shape... by it getting bigger or smaller it may look like its changed shape but the proportions will always be the same.

anyone who says by doing more of a certain bicep curl itll change the shape doesnt know what they are talking about... a curl is a curl. period.

[Luigi]

SEO's such as syntherol etc are the only things that can change the shape of your muscle.

a muscle can only either get bigger or smaller... it cant change its shape... by it getting bigger or smaller it may look like its changed shape but the proportions will always be the same.

anyone who says by doing more of a certain bicep curl itll change the shape doesnt know what they are talking about... a curl is a curl. period.

im not sure whether thats true or not but if it was then what is the point of doing different bicep exercises ?

[trainlikeafreak]

SEO's such as syntherol etc are the only things that can change the shape of your muscle.

a muscle can only either get bigger or smaller... it cant change its shape... by it getting bigger or smaller it may look like its changed shape but the proportions will always be the same.

anyone who says by doing more of a certain bicep curl itll change the shape doesnt know what they are talking about... a curl is a curl. period.

im not sure whether thats true or not but if it was then what is the point of doing different bicep exercises ?

hit the muscle from diff angles from what your muscles are used to therefore stimulating muscle growth. u cant just do the same exercise(es) every day and expect to grow lol

[tomsammce]

SEO's such as syntherol etc are the only things that can change the shape of your muscle.

a muscle can only either get bigger or smaller... it cant change its shape... by it getting bigger or smaller it may look like its changed shape but the proportions will always be the same.

anyone who says by doing more of a certain bicep curl itll change the shape doesnt know what they are talking about... a curl is a curl. period.

im not sure whether thats true or not but if it was then what is the point of doing different bicep exercises ?

it is true... if you just did barbell curls for biceps your bicep would not be a diff shape to just doing dumbell curls... your bicep is the size of a fucking orange dunno why so many idiots put so much emphasis on them.

your muscle shape is genetic.

[tomsammce]

its the total volume that grows your muscle not doing 3 sets of this and 2 sets of that...

i see ppl getting all mathematical and its bullshit... 3 sets of 12 reps on an exercise to work the peak of my bicep and 3 sets of 12 on another to work the bottom bit of my bicep... bitch please 3 sets aint shit.... its about total volume... ur bicep doesnt know this one is for peak and this one if for the bottom section it it.

lol

[Luigi]

hmmm insterating.

[severe]

Work it till it's jelly brahs

[Riccardo]

Damn came in to say exactly what Tom said. You can't change the shape of your muscles, its genetic. Also highly agree regarding total volume vs sets/reps. A certain amount of volume will grow a muscle depending on its fiber type and metabolic characteristics. I personally feel sets/reps is not all that important.

[whiterhyno]

Nice Tom

Easy answer is go google Kevin Levrone and someone like Dareem Charles

You can't do shit to get a peak really, all preachers and concentration do is use less cheating and load up the bicep more

[thatwaslight]

lol at targeting muscles to change shape lol that's some bro-science right there.

you cant shape a muscle unless you use synthol.

[crazyfacials]

lol at targeting muscles to change shape lol that's some bro-science right there.

you cant shape a muscle unless you use synthol.

I wana shape my biceps as hearts, so when I flex them they attract all the babes and I am like ay gurl you made em do that

[Android]

Interesting.

Who here would turn up to the gym everyday if you couldn't change your shape?

Or are you all just a bigger version of the same shape, like you were born with a mean quad sweep or a v-taper.

Just wondering :shock:

[thatwaslight]

Interesting.

Who here would turn up to the gym everyday if you couldn't change your shape?

Or are you all just a bigger version of the same shape, like you were born with a mean quad sweep or a v-taper.

Just wondering :shock:

training will change your shape of course but i don't think you can manipulate the shape of a muscle, it will grow how its going to grow.

[Android]

Interesting.

Who here would turn up to the gym everyday if you couldn't change your shape?

Or are you all just a bigger version of the same shape, like you were born with a mean quad sweep or a v-taper.

Just wondering :shock:

training will change your shape of course but i don't think you can manipulate the shape of a muscle, it will grow how its going to grow.

that's the truth 8)

so he wants a better bicep at rest which am taking a guess here but he wants to see more lower bicep...? A good peak should look ok at rest but it doesn't hang out the bottom of t'shirts which is perhaps what he is after.

He can't change his tie-ins that's for sure...genetics, am sure everyone agrees.

But am probably guessing they're roughly give or take a centimeter the same as yours or mine....otherwise he's got fucked up bio-mechanics and a way different leverage happening.

So hit the lower bicep with preachers and incline dumbbell curls where you get the full stretch happening. The lower part of the bicep can have it's size increased absolutely no question about it.

Technically there isn't a lower bicep right?...same as Chest apparently.

But if you heat-map the muscle during exercise you'll see different parts of the bicep firing indicating different areas of stress with different exercises.

It just reminds me of my intro to the gym. I was told to only worry about lower bicep and forget about the peak. I had no biceps lol. After a while of just those exercises I'm now having to work hard on the peak and the lower bicep hangs nicely down to my inside elbow. And I didn't have any lower bicep before...so I just made what I lacked, bigger.

[tomsammce]

[MOD EDIT: No inflammatory or offensive comments, please.]

As above exercises won't change shape of bicep it's genetic.

[Android]

...back onto the thread topic.

There's alot you can do without pinning your biceps.

Pretty sure Maccaz can attribute his peak to training-related and he wasn't walking around primary school with them. Pretty sure the shape on his arm has changed since those days.

Try any exercise that stretches it and forces you to curl from a straight arm position. The shape you grow from that will be as mentioned earlier genetically determined but make that lower bicep bigger and I don't think you can go wrong.

Pinning biceps with oils is great for changing the shape, I wouldn't do that unless you are already pinning gear...most knowledgeable people would know that.

[Luigi]

lol supendedbrah again. didnt think that was even that bad this time.

and yea the whole reason i wondered android was because for the last few weeks i had been focusing on doing those exercises which you think make it look fuller when rested and i have noticed a difference.

[Optimass]

Interesting topic - I dont think there is a silver bullet.

I have a wicked good peak on my right arm compared to my left - but have always trained balanced in workouts since I had started. (Its always been pointier - and is about 1/2 inch bigger as a result) :shifty:

but then when I first started training I did a lot more incline movements on chest and have a very definate seperation between lower and upper peck - despite knowing you activate your whole chest on a flat bench its hard to not take note of these things based on regular old training habits.

IMO you cant change shape but you can recruit more fibre to an exercise and therefore become stronger at that movement - I think this would be more likely example of what you would see by using a thermal system to monitor muscular activity Android.

Perhaps it does change shape when the size of the muscle under each layer becomes more pronounced - so its not one muscle thats changed shape but a collective change of a group along a fixed length of bone.

Hope that makes sense? :-s

[Android]

This is me, no camera stretching, I am different distances from the camera though.

In 2008, I'd ask anyone to guess my Leg shape would look like they do today. These legs aren't even a larger version of the ones before.

And no, I am not saying I changed my muscle genetics but I am saying I changed the shape of my muscle.

In 2008 and prior I never stepped under a Squat rack, period. I did heavy Leg Press, Extensions and Curls only for Legs. After that show I changed and started Squatting and gave up the Leg Press all together.

So in my experience, targeting your muscles with exercises you can change the shape. I would not look like I do today if I had not changed to Squats.