Growth Hormone Fragments

[Chemo]

interesting, saying that fragments are just as good as hgh?

He mentioned this on a few vids too

great channel btw for power lifters

[nate225]

GHRP6 is not a steroid it is a Growth Hormone releasing peptide that mimics Ghrelin in the stomach lining to increase appetite. Increase in strength, muscle mass and body fat loss, joints benefits etc are often claimed in the promotional material but find me one person that has had these results on a cycle of GHRP6 & maintained any size strength etc, and I will be extremely surprised. Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm

Thats okay, appreciate your input.

I just like throwing around 170kg benches at the moment :pfft:

But if the strength goes afterwards, at least it was fun while it lasted.

Good on ya Mate. You proved me wrong :roll:

I can think of a few names locally that anecdotally prove you wrong Rod......but 'm sure you can cut n paste something from google to out do me! :pfft: :grin:

Also across the ditch there are a bunch of 'elite' level guys using this peptide very successfully for both off & on-season goals.

INB4SalesrepLOL

[Chemo]

Thats okay, appreciate your input.

I just like throwing around 170kg benches at the moment :pfft:

But if the strength goes afterwards, at least it was fun while it lasted.

Good on ya Mate. You proved me wrong :roll:

I can think of a few names locally that anecdotally prove you wrong Rod......but 'm sure you can cut n paste something from google to out do me! :pfft: :grin:

Also across the ditch there are a bunch of 'elite' level guys using this peptide very successfully for both off & on-season goals.

INB4SalesrepLOL

nate-the-hate-peptides.co.nz

From what I'm reading the international guys stack a bunch of peptides together, and with some success. I've kinda wondered into a trap/rabbit hole here. So much reading involved.

cjc1295 and ghrp6 seem to be the popular thing to do. Stimulating gh and igf quite well for a fraction of the cost and less side effects.

Check this if you have some time to read, and some tolerance towards slang and capital letters :B

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroids-associated-drugs-articles/74490-cjc-1295-hgh-igf-1-etc-worth-reading.html

and here if anyone is keen on even more reading, this one is more sensible and has some links on further info.

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/muscle-research-peptides/62454-cjc-1295-ghrp-6-basic-guides.html

Interesting fact: cjc studies are on hold after a death in the experiments. So we wont see many studies showing results from clinical trials.

The study was to see if CJC-1295 can be used to treat the gain in visceral fat in AIDS patients. So some fat dude with aids died and they stop the trials... bugger.

[nate225]

I'm not really up to speed with all the peptides - shit I can't even keep up with the latest pre-workouts! :pfft: :grin: But I have heard a lot of guys stacking the CJC & GHRP6 and claiming good results over in Aussie.

Also hearing a bit recently about site specific action of MGF, but again don't know too much about it.

[Android]

Pretty much anything, except B12, is illegal if you need to inject it & is regarded by Medsafea as prescription medicine. GHRP6 does not build muscle. All results will be due to water retention & bloating

Mate, I have to disagree? Really? I have veins on my quads and upper chest and they are .5 of an inch bigger?

Also, what's up with the strength? Why does it sky rocket and will it stay after you come off?

GHRP6 is not a steroid it is a Growth Hormone releasing peptide that mimics Ghrelin in the stomach lining to increase appetite. Increase in strength, muscle mass and body fat loss, joints benefits etc are often claimed in the promotional material but find me one person that has had these results on a cycle of GHRP6 & maintained any size strength etc, and I will be extremely surprised. Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm

I've done 3 cycles of GHRP-6. Two were just a month long and one was 2 months long.

While on it it's great!

The full muscle bellys remind me of slin because you're all carbed up and full and your strength comes from this I believe.

But once you're off it...a week or longer, and you're not as full of course and you go back to what you were before and appetite goes back to what it was.

You have in the time that you are taking GHRP-6 the opportunity to increase muscle size...if you don't take that opportunity and just keep doing same old same old you'll just make temporary gains which is where most people screw up...I do sometimes LOL.

[Chemo]

Mate, I have to disagree? Really? I have veins on my quads and upper chest and they are .5 of an inch bigger?

Also, what's up with the strength? Why does it sky rocket and will it stay after you come off?

GHRP6 is not a steroid it is a Growth Hormone releasing peptide that mimics Ghrelin in the stomach lining to increase appetite. Increase in strength, muscle mass and body fat loss, joints benefits etc are often claimed in the promotional material but find me one person that has had these results on a cycle of GHRP6 & maintained any size strength etc, and I will be extremely surprised. Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm

I've done 3 cycles of GHRP-6. Two were just a month long and one was 2 months long.

While on it it's great!

The full muscle bellys remind me of slin because you're all carbed up and full and your strength comes from this I believe.

But once you're off it...a week or longer, and you're not as full of course and you go back to what you were before and appetite goes back to what it was.

You have in the time that you are taking GHRP-6 the opportunity to increase muscle size...if you don't take that opportunity and just keep doing same old same old you'll just make temporary gains which is where most people screw up...I do sometimes LOL.

Them hyperplasia gains?

[Android]

good question....no

[Chemo]

good question....no

Say it aint soo!!!

Ok so its no HGH lol

Been reading that cjc and ghrp cause hyperplasia at the right dosages. I assume this would be the cjc doing the work here.

One thing I have no idea about is if hyperplasia generally more of a result of elevated igf or normal hgh?

Can someone educate?

[thatwaslight]

chemo, do you even lift?

regards

[Chemo]

chemo, do you even lift?

regards

Lol not that much nowdays, thanks TWL.

[Android]

good question....no

Say it aint soo!!!

Ok so its no HGH lol

Been reading that cjc and ghrp cause hyperplasia at the right dosages. I assume this would be the cjc doing the work here.

One thing I have no idea about is if hyperplasia generally more of a result of elevated igf or normal hgh?

Can someone educate?

What's the right doses?

On it's own it has a diminshing return but is supposed to be very synergistic with GHRH and the best "online stats" I've seen is a 3-fold increase, but does that still equate to hyperplasia?

Is GHRP-6 better with CJC is it...?

I think the GHRP-6 raised some levels to 2,000 but when taken with GHRH went up to 6,000 or 8,000 somethings.

The only downside I had with GHRP-6 was if taken midday I got so sleepy that I HAD TO SLEEP.

I nearly feel asleep on the toilet at work, srs. That same week I found a quiet room, pushed a chair up against the door so couldn't be disturbed, and napped...this is all in the corporate world...IAG, NZI and State Insurance LOL.

So I could only take it on waking up, and post-workout.

Slin is way way cheaper, you can still eat like a horse, it fills out your muscles, it makes you stronger etc.

[Chemo]

Yeah looking on international board Android, it seems cjc and ghrp together is a trend.

Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) CJC-1295 is a synthetic secretalogue, when injected stimulates HGH release from the hypothalamus. Dosing GHRH once at night for anti-aging purposes and multiple injections (1-3x) for anabolism. CJC-1295 has the ability to make the body produce its own GH as compared to using synthetic HGH. GHRP-6 use in conjunction with CJC-1295 is synergistic, amplifying the GH pulse considerably.

http://procardbodybuilding.com/forums/f23/ghrp-cjc-1295-dosing-802.html

It seems around 250-300mcg a day is the top end.

I had seen some one claim that 100mcg of both a day is supposedly around 2-3iu of synthetic hgh.

Hyperplasia occurs around 10+iu? I dont know anything about that to be fair.

Lol at the sleeping, so thats why claims are so slow!

Quite a funny side effect. Did you experience the bloating and farting?

Slin has similar effects? Im guessing maybe IGF does too

[Android]

I do get a little sleepy on slin but it's the kind of yawning you get from eating a carb meal if you know what I mean.

GH release tiredness is one you can't fight off, it's like you have to sleep...srs. Like the hunger, you can't fight it, it's extremely primal.

The GH response does the sleepiness I believe. Didn't experience excessive farting but you eat so much more your gut does distend a bit for sure.

The 10iu thing you speak of is quite funny. If you take 5-10iu of GH straight off the bat your body fights it and you waste your GH :-) good one!

Should start with 2iu and increase slowly to avoid this reaction which you won't recognize is happening tbh.

My knowledge isn't experience btw, but from those that use it and get access to US Pro advice. They say that 6iu of HGH is enough for most people. If you can't get growth from that throwing more at it is pointless you may as well give up cos you obviously aren't going to well at it. Some may take more, mere mortals here in NZ that don't get paid for taking it don't have to.

I'll try it oneday and let you know if this info is good advice or not :-)

[snoopy]

All the fragments are good, the specific ones for cosmetics are really good too.

GHK: This one is outstanding for hair growth, as with age (And supps) my hair slightly receeded and this bothered me as I have no male pattern balness in my family, eight weeks of this brought my hairline back with fuzz were the hair had gone and it now has grown in normaly and it also made my face 'softer'.

Hexarelin: Great additive to GHRP-6 and GHRP-2

Melatonin 2: Gave me nausea but darkened my skin somewhat

TB500: The strength athletes dream, soaring strength and endurance but at a very heavy cost, $1000.00 for the first month and $280.00-$500.00 a month after the loading phase. An alternate for people wanting to give racing horses the 'edge' without fear of being caught out for doping.

The interesting thing with some of these products is you can inject them in some fatty area's and they are said to incur a reduction in fat mass in the localised area.

[musclenz]

Thats okay, appreciate your input.

I just like throwing around 170kg benches at the moment :pfft:

But if the strength goes afterwards, at least it was fun while it lasted.

Good on ya Mate. You proved me wrong :roll:

I can think of a few names locally that anecdotally prove you wrong Rod......but 'm sure you can cut n paste something from google to out do me! :pfft: :grin:

Also across the ditch there are a bunch of 'elite' level guys using this peptide very successfully for both off & on-season goals.

INB4SalesrepLOL

Of course anything will work if you stack it with enough AAS :pfft:

[snoopy]

This is the reason for gastric upset with GHRP-6, GHRP-6 stimulates this heavily, more so than GHRP-2:

Gastric dumping syndrome, or rapid gastric emptying, happens when the lower end of the small intestine, the jejunum, expands too quickly due to the presence of hyperosmolar food from the stomach. "Early" dumping begins during or right after a meal. Symptoms of early dumping include nausea, vomiting, bloating, cramping, diarrhea, dizziness and fatigue. "Late" dumping happens 1 to 3 hours after eating. Symptoms of late dumping include weakness, sweating, and dizziness. Many people have both types.

If you use GHRP-6 or GHRP-2 and get any of these symptoms it's normal and I guess you will have to just way up the pros and cons.

If any one has used TB-500 the 'perfect' peptide (Supposedly) please share