Active recovery the way to go, over r.i.c.e treatment?

[Big john]

long vid but it does have some very interesting points, be good to get some veiws on this

[Dr Squat]

Ice will (well it should) always have its place. Particularly in the first few hours. I don't think you need to get too technical. It's simple isn't it? Cooling down the area will reduce inflammation. I do agree with active recovery in the medium to long term.

[steak]

Ice will (well it should) always have its place. Particularly in the first few hours. I don't think you need to get too technical. It's simple isn't it? Cooling down the area will reduce inflammation. I do agree with active recovery in the medium to long term.

agree to a point here Doc

however if getting a better "healing" recovery by not inhibiting the bodies natural inflammatory response and capitalising on it with added compression is getting better results Im keen to hear more....

Icing as these guys are saying inhibits this by constricting capillaries and blocking the circulartory and lypmphatic systems although they do acknowledge that icing has a "pain reducing" effect making it feel like its helping when it may not be as cracked up as was previously thought....again Im keen to hear more about anything to help heal this walking train wreck my keen spirit is habitating :pfft:

[Dr Squat]

Lol you don't have to agree with me mate. I personally think that ice if anything is under utilised. I would like to see my boys icing areas like shoulders and elbows after each workout. I think this is another means to enhance recovery and reduce inflammation.

I appreciate what these guys are saying. I just think that icing is so fundamental immediately after the injury. It doesn't happen enough because people are lazy. Other methods don't take as much effort or hurt as much! I would be concerned if ice was not promoted in the first instance! I'm not a scientist (of course) but surely it's hard to argue against ice as the first step. The process after that may be open to debate.

I am a fan of the active recovery as I said. Doing nothing for weeks never works for me and in the past the injury sometimes gets worse. My approach is to get back on the horse as soon as possible depending on the injury of course. For example, my rotator cuff. I say do anything that doesn't hurt. I was able to select movements pretty early on which gave me no pain. As the area strengthened, the injury healed also. My bicep was a bit different because of the risk of rupturing again. So it's a matter of being smart. Obviously prevention in the first place would be even better. :oops:

[BeastBuilder]

I haven't been in the game long enough and am not strong enough yet to have had any major injuries but I've had a fair few niggles and pains that you have to work around and figure out how to get rid of. So take this for what it's worth.

I think it depends on the injury. Say if it's a tear or something simillar where blood will want to pool or the like then ice definitely has it's place to constrict the arteries and capillaries in the area to limit blood flow, and in this situation ice is all that should be used. And sure after having surgery if required active recovery is definitely a good thing.

Whereas an injury such as tendonitis, sprains etc where you want to increase blood flow to repair the affected area then active recovery comes into the equation a lot earlier. Ice still has it's place but in combination with something to heat up the area (Deep Heat, Rice Bag, Hot Water Bottle etc) so that you can use hot and cold to increase the blood flow to the area. Just using ice to treat injuries such as these would constrict blood flow and potentially make it take longer to recover.