20 rep front squat competition (Original post edited)

[Shutupandsquat]

I'm not gonna rip on you, but just because you feel your hammys and glutes activating, that doesn't mean they won't get more activation by going deeper. The same as your quads. Even if your legs are growing at that depth; they would grow more if you get a bit deeper.

Just practice with 60kg for 30 reps or something. Getting the depth over and over again makes it easier as opposed to trying to hit depth with a heavy weight.

[greemah]

Do you seriously think the difference in depth from that to parallel is so significant you don't think I could get 1 rep at 150kg going to parallel?

Yes

Judging by the depth in that vid, what weight would you estimate would be my 1rm going parallel? My hams/glutes aren't untrained as I do deadlifts also

[greemah]

I'm not gonna rip on you, but just because you feel your hammys and glutes activating, that doesn't mean they won't get more activation by going deeper. The same as your quads. Even if your legs are growing at that depth; they would grow more if you get a bit deeper.

Just practice with 60kg for 30 reps or something. Getting the depth over and over again makes it easier as opposed to trying to hit depth with a heavy weight.

So you reckon deeper with lighter weight would be more beneficial to the quad, or are you talking overall leg?

Next squat day I might try lower to 127kg and go to parallel. Just need to find a way to sort depth as it is hard going by feel, and having a box completely throws me off

[Shutupandsquat]

:doh:

60kilo, with a f*ck load of reps. You will be able to get deeper easy and you won't collapse under the weight. It will pump you up a lot and then you can slowly work your way up. You won't hit depth by dropping it 25 kilo; I guarantee it (and no that's not a challenge to prove me wrong. Just do as I say)

[greemah]

:doh:

60kilo, with a f*ck load of reps. You will be able to get deeper easy and you won't collapse under the weight. It will pump you up a lot and then you can slowly work your way up. You won't hit depth by dropping it 25 kilo; I guarantee it (and no that's not a challenge to prove me wrong. Just do as I say)

I used to squat lower than this as I have filmed my squats before, I think it has just been getting higher over the last 6-9 months without me realising it.

I don't know about 60kg haha that seems like way too light and completely unchallenging, not sure how this will help? I did 1x20 of 107kg forcing myself to go deep a few months ago after doing heavy lunges as I was trying out a new routine, and it was easy. At the time it felt near a2g but after seeing this vid it was probably only to parallel

[Gasp]

At least you had the balls to post a vid and take the feedback. That beats a few of the blow-hards we've had on here.

Now back on subject .

Theres a massive difference in weight you can handle doing 1/4 - 1/2 squats.

Similarly theres a huge difference in the benefits and gains achieved.

Try doing 20 x 60kgs on full depth and I guarantee; 1) you will find it bloody hard 1st time round and 2) You legs will ache two days later far more than this workout did.

I'm not trying to be overly critical but given your lack of knowledge on what you could do with full ROM squats compared to your current range it appears that you may never have really had a good crack at them.

Its the difference between night and day and youll get far more out it.

Its similar to seeing guys putting 10 plates each side on the leg press and moving it an inch. They are better off with two plates and doing them properly.

If you are using a rack with safety rails theres no reason why you couldnt go deep every time.

[greemah]

Ok well I have done 1x20 107kg to depth before with ease after doing lunges, but next Thursday (squat day) I will do 1x20 67kg to depth then up the weight to 107 and do it again, and see how I feel after that. Will try get a vid too if I remember

Anyone got any tips on monitoring depth? Using a box is all I can think of but that really puts me off. And going by feel clearly doesn't work too well for me lol

[tomleegolf]

Do you seriously think the difference in depth from that to parallel is so significant you don't think I could get 1 rep at 150kg going to parallel?

Yes

Judging by the depth in that vid, what weight would you estimate would be my 1rm going parallel? My hams/glutes aren't untrained as I do deadlifts also

Ive done 220kgs for 5 reps raw belt only going to about your depth. My best squat in a powerlifting competition raw belt only is 170kgs for one rep. Pretty significant

[AZIDE]

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[icecream]

You could use a nice big med ball to check depth, but I doubt gyms have them

Plus that's going low low loooow.

[teamfatboy]

You could use a nice big med ball to check depth, but I doubt gyms have them

Plus that's going low low POWERLIFTER loooow.

Fixed

[tomleegolf]

Just to clarify, when you say Ass to grass it means this

[Luigi]

No hate on you because at least you posted a video. But it really makes me rage when people squat to that depth then go around telling everyone how strong they are.

[Calvin]

Gym Rat The Movie was a for comedy/troll value, not for tutorial purposes.

[tomleegolf]

That's not what I'm meaning, I meant my quads won't get worked as hard if I start going lower since there would be less weight

The weight on the bar does not matter! What matters is how much work the muscle actually has to do. You can get simple bodyweight exercises and increase the difficulty exponentially by adjusting positions to put your leverages in disadvantageous situations. You may not have any external weight but your muscles have to work just as hard.

In the same way, as you go deeper in the squat the difficulty of the exercise increases exponentially. If you had ever done a proper squat, you would realise that the hardest part of the squat is right below the point at which you cease your descent. I have done quarter or half squats and honestly I cant feel a thing in my quads or hammies, even with 200+kgs. I only did them to prove a point as some people had responded to me callin out their depth by saying you probably couldnt even unrack the weight :pfft:

[tomsammce]

Gym Rat The Movie was a for comedy/troll value, not for tutorial purposes.

I didn't laugh once... Wondering when the English language version will be released so I can understand what was said and also be in on the apparent lol's

[tomsammce]

There's little point going that low on a squat IMO unless your a competitive powerlifter who needs to go that low to not be disqualified.

Bodybuilders don't need to, to get great leg development and 99% of athletes and pro sportsmen have no benefit from squatting so low..

I don't understand how someone is considered to be squatting incorrectly or abit of a pussy if they don't go as low as you say they should...

[Shutupandsquat]

There's little point going that low on a squat IMO unless your a competitive powerlifter who needs to go that low to not be disqualified.

Bodybuilders don't need to, to get great leg development and 99% of athletes and pro sportsmen have no benefit from squatting so low..

I don't understand how someone is considered to be squatting incorrectly or abit of a pussy if they don't go as low as you say they should...

TLG was only saying that ATG is extremely low. And the majority of people are just saying that he should be getting to at least parallel in order to have full hammy and glute activation. Maybe I was skimming through, but I didn't see anyone call him a pussy?

[greemah]

It's irrelevant now anyway, I'm going to lower the weight and go to parallel. Will prob use a box to be sure as it will be to hard going by feel till I get used to it

[tomsammce]

I didn't say anyone called him a pussy... [MOD EDIT: No inflammatory comments, please.]

Whenever someone posts a squat vid or mentions a squat weight they are immediatly hit up about depth. All I was saying is that going a2g isn't nessercery to what ppl want to achieve from the squat.

[tomleegolf]

I didn't say anyone called him a pussy... [MOD EDIT: No inflammatory comments, please.]

Whenever someone posts a squat vid or mentions a squat weight they are immediatly hit up about depth. All I was saying is that going a2g isn't nessercery to what ppl want to achieve from the squat.

I dont think anyone here has the flexibility to go real ass to grass except me. Semi srs. And its because a half squat and a parallel squat are two completely different beasts

[greemah]

TLG you should video a 20-rep squat vid of the depth you normally do

Though if you usually only low rep squats might be hard to estimate a good weight to use

[tomleegolf]

This was back in May at the end of a heavy squat session so I was prefatigued.

Back in January when I was fresh

[tomleegolf]

Tried 90kgs again, got to ten reps and I knew I wouldn't make 20 reps as I was slowing down so I stopped at ten.

Tried 75kgs after and got to 17 reps and then my right hand slipped out and I was gassed as f*ck (vid)

I then tried 60kgs, just to practise doing 20 reps and I failed on my 19th rep LMAO WUT!!!! It's my cardio, it's shit and once I go over 10 reps my muscles just start burning and I start puffing so that I can't continue. I never go over 6 reps, that's why. FFFUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!

[greemah]

Nice vids, thats the depth I plan to do starting this thur, feels alot deeper than it looks lol. do you go by feel or do you have a mirror in front of you?