"Reandron" injected once every 10 to 14 weeks

[mrgeeky]

How long has this option been around for?

Is anyone else using this?

[mrgeeky]

hasnt anyone heard of it?

[Optimass]

yep - know soneone that bridged a cycle with it - believe its a large dose inj but breaks down very slowly from memory. Havent used my self but was told it was all good for this. Comes in large single brown amp.

would be a standardised item for someone on legit trt program.

May be the type of thing if you are traveling and access to core gear is not easy.

[Phedder]

I know nothing about it, but here's a thread from only 3 days ago with some good info :wink:

viewtopic.php?t=15839

[mrgeeky]

Obiviously its new to the market..

Not funded though.. $160 a pop.

Im thinking bout going down that route..

cheers for the replies.

[farrout]

My endo offered me this,was $150 from memory & is the same as what's in Andriol caps - testosterone undecanoate.

[mrgeeky]

My endo offered me this,was $150 from memory & is the same as what's in Andriol caps - testosterone undecanoate.

what stopped you from going down this route farrout.

1 injection once every 3 months would make life simple wouldnt it?

[severe]

Still wanting the test, but not willing to pay the price?

It may be slow release, but a pin every 3 months?

How much is the initial dose? grams?

[Optimass]

^^ 4grams from memory ...

and not new to market ...

[mrgeeky]

Still wanting the test, but not willing to pay the price?

It may be slow release, but a pin every 3 months?

How much is the initial dose? grams?

I thought it would be common sense not to pay if it was avoidable.. :grin:

I will still have to pay for anything i want to top it up with of course..

I know nothing of dosage yet, as its just been an option mentioned at this stage.

One of the big hiccups I have with this TRT / HRT stuff is my doc wants to keep me on a dose with in line of some one my age.. STuff that..

If he does try to go down that rate, Im going to come off it. :cry:

[mrgeeky]

from the other thread, Android seems to think its good..

Reandron is the best for HRT in NZ (my opinion).

I have tried it and I know a few old guys on it.

One guy 70+yes old gets 1 4ml ampule delivered by his doctor to administer himself. He gets 2 blood tests done, one a week before the 3 mths is up and one a week after pinning...every single time.

His Test levels are 18nmols at the end of the 3mths, and 37 a week after pinning Reandron.

You could then top up from that with other compounds IMO. Reandron rocks!

[severe]

One of the big hiccups I have with this TRT / HRT stuff is my doc wants to keep me on a dose with in line of some one my age.. STuff that..

True that. Why be 'normal' for your age, when you can be better than a 20 year old. I hear you.

[Android]

hasnt anyone heard of it?

Bear in mind that this is a bodybuilding forum, there should be other forums more suited to genuine HRT usage and there you would find real people that do HRT with real experiences to share with you...legally.

Here you will find people that might know people who do HRT, but those "people" we speak of don't come here because they're on HRT not a bodybuilding cycle.

If you don't like what your doctor says and you aren't going to listen to him/ her then change doctors rather than "topping up", as inviting and easy as it seems.

I'm in the Health IT sector and I deal with real clinicians daily, they want as much accurate information about a patient as possible. So "topping up" what you doctor prescribes doesn't help them one little bit.

Sure, one day when your prostate is diagnosed as enlarged you'll tell them what you really took, but telling him now will mean he will put you on 6 or 12-monthly prostate check-up. (One example from many, I could go on)

Anyway I know which option I would choose...

my last 2c

[mrgeeky]

hasnt anyone heard of it?

Bear in mind that this is a bodybuilding forum, there should be other forums more suited to genuine HRT usage and there you would find real people that do HRT with real experiences to share with you...legally.

Here you will find people that might know people who do HRT, but those "people" we speak of don't come here because they're on HRT not a bodybuilding cycle.

If you don't like what your doctor says and you aren't going to listen to him/ her then change doctors rather than "topping up", as inviting and easy as it seems.

I'm in the Health IT sector and I deal with real clinicians daily, they want as much accurate information about a patient as possible. So "topping up" what you doctor prescribes doesn't help them one little bit.

Sure, one day when your prostate is diagnosed as enlarged you'll tell them what you really took, but telling him now will mean he will put you on 6 or 12-monthly prostate check-up. (One example from many, I could go on)

Anyway I know which option I would choose...

my last 2c

this stuff does my friggen head in..

For ages I keep reading where everybody is raving about all the benefits of staying on a teenage doesage of TRT the next minute I hear that its not all that its cracked up to be.. And that it can cause issues.. If thats what you're now telling me Android..

I think your advice is very sound. I shall be 100% honest with my doctor and see what he has to say.

He is supposedly very knowledgeable in the area of TRT and cycles. Its why I chose to see him in the first place.

But some of his advice differs from the stuff you read in these forums.

The reason i came to these forums are two fold.

1, I lift weights and have done all my life. It's my main hobby.

2, knowledge of TRT.. I thought body builders would be the expert in the area of using testosterone. But I get your point. Taking roids and TRT are two different things I guess.

I do post on another forum that does a HRT / TRT forum but I dont seem to find the information over there much different from what I read here.

So far I have only read about the positives of TRT. I havent heard any negavtives any where, except for the comments you have just made Android.

If that really is the case that there are possible issues with staying on a higher amount I think it might be worth me getting off TRT.

I have only been on 6 months. My levels were 13nmol/L when I started TRT.

If I can get back to that naturally and use other means to try to boost my test might be the answer then.. An option I havent closed the door on yet..

cheers for the advice Android I shall be 100% straight with my doctor and see what he has to say. Will fill you in after talking to him.

Thanks for some really great advice.

[mrgeeky]

Android, just re reading your quote below.. See where I get confused.

Here you seem to be advocating the levels a 70 year old is on?

Reandron is the best for HRT in NZ (my opinion).

I have tried it and I know a few old guys on it.

One guy 70+yes old gets 1 4ml ampule delivered by his doctor to administer himself. He gets 2 blood tests done, one a week before the 3 mths is up and one a week after pinning...every single time.

His Test levels are 18nmols at the end of the 3mths, and 37 a week after pinning Reandron.

You could then top up from that with other compounds IMO. Reandron rocks!

[Android]

The levels the 70yr old gets which starts at 37nmols is freaking amazing for him! Teenagers have a simialr level if they are lucky and they respond well in the gym (sure their GH levels are high as well) but that's damn good levels to be at.

Compared to your <10nmols, even in the last week of a 3mth dose you'd be sitting high on 18nmols. I mean, you don't need to be on 60nmols+ like most of us bodybuilders, you aren't seriously considering bodybuilding are you?

I always advocate taking the least amount as possible, so would try Reandron for 3 months before adding anything to it.

Just be aware that HRT prescribed by your doctor is probably ok in terms of Private Health Insurance. But consider the consequences of clicnical notes that say you're topping up with your own UG gear...and any claim you might want to make in the future for a quick private heart-related condition ...private health insurers can be brutal.

[mrgeeky]

ok, now I understand you..

Your saying TRT is good, but there are dangers in over doing it by cycling with body builders doses?

In my case I would stay mainly on TRT doesage and would be happy with that. I hve been doing weights all my life and although have put on muscle, I keep getting impingement etc which stops my training dead in my tracks.

So I have never really got to the size I want..

I dont want to be huge and dont want to be competitive body builder but to do a couple of cyles to add some size is definitely on the cards at some stage..

But its nto something I would do often or for long.. I could see myself doing a couple of cycled over the next few years just to get some good growth and would be satisifed with just keeping it on rather than building on it..

The funny thing is the main thing I love about weights is not looking big, its strength growth. Its what pushes me. It's a real buzz everytime my weights go up..

When I first started on this TRT my wieghts nearly doubled over night for some exercises. What a buzz that was.. Until I got impingement again..

I keep thinking I have impingment / injuries under control but they keep coming back.. I probably need to back off the weights and stop training every session to failure and often with drop sets.. Possibly over doing it. But then I only train one day on, one day off at the most..

I have found through experimenting I get my best gains on chest as an example if I bench every 8 days. I seem to need plenty of recovery.

My point being I have trained my whole life with out gaining any real size, so yeah a few cycles is definitely on the cards but nothing like you guys would do, nor at the dose you guys would be taking..

Hope that makes sense...

[farrout]

My endo offered me this,was $150 from memory & is the same as what's in Andriol caps - testosterone undecanoate.

what stopped you from going down this route farrout.

1 injection once every 3 months would make life simple wouldnt it?

I assumed weekly shots would provide more stable testosterone levels. This was confirmed by how I felt during week 2 of Sustanon250.

[mrgeeky]

i might give it a crack and let you know how it works our farrout

[mrgeeky]

The levels the 70yr old gets which starts at 37nmols is freaking amazing for him! Teenagers have a simialr level if they are lucky and they respond well in the gym (sure their GH levels are high as well) but that's damn good levels to be at.

Compared to your <10nmols, even in the last week of a 3mth dose you'd be sitting high on 18nmols. I mean, you don't need to be on 60nmols+ like most of us bodybuilders, you aren't seriously considering bodybuilding are you?

I always advocate taking the least amount as possible, so would try Reandron for 3 months before adding anything to it.

Just be aware that HRT prescribed by your doctor is probably ok in terms of Private Health Insurance. But consider the consequences of clicnical notes that say you're topping up with your own UG gear...and any claim you might want to make in the future for a quick private heart-related condition ...private health insurers can be brutal.

sorry mate, Im a bit slow on it at times..

I now understand the confusion was caused by my comment "I will still have to pay for anything i want to top it up with of course"

I wont be topping up anything on a regular basis. I should have used the term "for anything I want to cycle with" would have been more appropriate

I'll be sticking with what ever amount the doc prescribes but I will be pushing him for the highest level I can get him to give me..

Which is never going to be over a mid 30's any way..

At the moment he seems satisfied when my nmol/L comes back in quite low..

[ralf.hudson]

Hi MrGeeky,

I'm on my second week of Reandron now (because of low t-levels) and the first two weeks have been great. Noticed an increase in energy and strength by at least 30%. This week the effects are not as noticeable, which is strange as by three weeks the levels will reach the maximum they should within the 3 months.

Like you I came to the body-building forums as these guys know their stuff and seem to be the only ones with the information I was looking for. I've heard others on HRT use Sustanon 250 for more regular doses - something I may look at trying.

I'm going to get my blood tests done at three weeks, then at the end to see what the results come back as. "Normal" levels seem to be something open for debate, although there's some good studies that will help you make your case to your Dr.

Anyway, keep us posted with your results!

Ralf

[mrgeeky]

Hiya Ralf..

Yep she's an interesting topic..

I, unlike most of the others in here on TRT I didnt have low levels of test.

My levels were at 13 nmol/L

And if I could get off my ass and lose weight, and tweaked a few areas, ie: take some natural substances etc.. I think I could probably have got my test up to a decent level..

Im still wondering if im doing the right thing going on test long term. The longer I leave it the less chance of turning back..

So thats my story, and am now 6 months in to being on.

I'll definitely stay in touch and let you know how things are going and will be following your posts.

farrout is in the same boat as you, as he had very low test levels so he's another person worth staying in touch with. He is a very friendly easy going person so easy to chat too.

They probably need to start a new heading in the forum list called HRT for guys like us..

Cheers mate..

[Pseudonym]

They probably need to start a new heading in the forum list called HRT for guys like us..

Hold onto that thought, MrGeeky. It's a topic I'm going to raise for discussion shortly. :nod:

[mrgeeky]

They probably need to start a new heading in the forum list called HRT for guys like us..

Hold onto that thought, MrGeeky. It's a topic I'm going to raise for discussion shortly. :nod:

cheers Pseudonym! :-)