too much protein??????

[jerume]

i've got a question!i take 4 protein shakes a day,one whey protein at 6am,one at 1pm,one at 6pm,and a sustained release at 10pm,that adds up too about 160grams when added with milk,i weigh 70kgs and i've gained 3 kgs in the last month while taking 4 shakes a day insteed of 2,which i'm stoked with,the question i have is i wanna up my intake more but i cant eat chicken,or tuna during the day with my kindve job,it's too hard,so i wanna take 2 protein bars too work and take one at 10am and one at 3pm,so thats 220grams of protein from shakes and bars,u think thats too much processed protein?is it bad too have supplement protein rather than natural protein(chicken,meat,tuna)?i just dont wanna stuff up my liver

remember i'm around 150pounds,and i get 160 grams a day now with my shakes and wanna get 60grams more with bars,is that bad for me?

thanks for helping

[Pseudonym]

Whether or not so much whey is bad for you... I don't know, to be honest. I have heard of people developing allergies to whey, though, so I'd be cautious about having REALLY large amounts. I try to get my protein from a wide range of sources.

But besides that, I think you'd find it got very expensive very quickly. I'm assuming the reason you can't have chicken or tuna during the day is because it's hard to carry around?

How about a chicken breast wrapped in gladwrap? That's pretty portable. A steak? A couple of hard-boiled eggs? A few sausages, perhaps?

[jono]

60 grams more wont hurt you.

its not just about protien, you also need enough good fats, and carbs.

huge ammounts of protein can be hard on the kidneys, however im sure by drinking a lot of water (as you should be anyway) any small danger that may exist can be greatly decreased.

i would not consider 220g a huge amount.

[ExpensiveUrine]

It's called a supplement. You supplement your diet with it.

[keats]

From what i understand your body can only utilize 26-30 grams of protein

per serve. Not sure on how long before you can utilize more but you cant go wrong with a constant supply :grin:

[Ash]

From what i understand your body can only utilize 26-30 grams of protein per serve. :

As far as I know, the studies that came up with the body only absorbing 30 grams of protein at a time were all conducted on relatively sedentary individuals. I may be wrong but I don't think anyone's ever done those studies on bodybuilders - I don't think we're a high interest group to your average scientist.

I would think there has to be a difference in terms of protein absorption between a hard training bodybuilder and your average Joe, especially as bodyweight and muscle mass goes up. I can't see a 120kg pro bodybuilder maintaining his muscle if he was limiting himself to 30 grams or protein per meal, even if he had 8 protein meals a day.

[deegee]

I have had meals of around 80gms of protien which I am sure is getting put to good use. I think those figures are a little old and off, as pointed no real study has been done of protien consumption vs absorbtion among bodybuilders.

I will keep taking the big meals though as they have worked in the past.

be interested to hear other opinion though.

[Growth]

Ive also herd the usual stories, 30-40g of protein is the most your body can assimilate per meal, but i also read an article where it said if you consistantly have a really high protein intake per serve, mucn like deegees 80g, that your body will adapt and be able to utilise more of the protein over time. Havent seen any actual medical studies however.

[Spitterkat]

a relatively safe limit is 0.8 (RDA) to 1.8 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight, watch your intake though, because protein has high acidity levels which can lead to calcium urination (i.e associated with osteoporosis) (btw not all protein is created equal, eat relative to your goals, a casein based blend (80% casein, 20% whey) is supposedly better for increasing lean body mass while reducing fat)

[Ash]

a relatively safe limit is 0.8 (RDA) to 1.8 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight, watch your intake though, because protein has high acidity levels which can lead to calcium urination (i.e associated with osteoporosis)

I don't think I would make any progress on 1.8g of protein per kg of body weight. That's 185 grams in my case. I aim for 1.5g per lb of bodyweight, or about 340g per day.

The other consideration is I eat about 4500 calories on training days - 185 grams of protein is 740 calories or only about 16% of my daily calories, so I would need to get over 3700 calories from carbs or fats. I don't much like those numbers.

[Spitterkat]

the theory behind it, is that you can only gain about 1 pound of muscle per week (bullshit from my experience, but hear me out..), and that for this gain, that is the amount of protein you need (optimal nutrition bible - patrick holford)

im still doing research into it though, the info i give out is relative to the knowledge i have, for nutrition, go to http://www.johnberardi.com (hes one of the worlds most well known sports nutritionists, still going through the articles on there)